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150 Dems: Don’t Tax Health Insurance

From The Hill:

150 Dems to Pelosi: No tax on health insurance

By Tony Romm – 10/07/09

More than 150 House Democrats have urged Speaker Nancy Pelosi to quash a new tax on expensive insurance plans for healthcare reform.

In a letter sent Wednesday to Pelosi (D-Calif.), a broad coalition of Blue Dogs and progressives said the proposed fee should not be included in a final bill.

They said the tax on so-called Cadillac insurance plans that exceed certain cost thresholds — a 40 percent fee that is already part of the Senate Finance Committee’s draft bill — would “inevitably extend to more and more middle-income Americans across the country.”

“Real life experience with both health insurers and inelastic markets for services such as health insurance has clearly warned us that this tax will be passed along to insurance payers,” wrote Rep. Joe Courtney (D-Conn.), who is spearheading the effort…

The idea’s chief proponents point to a Congressional Budget Office projection that the tax could deliver up to $215 billion in revenue over the next 10 years. The Finance Committee included the tax in its forthcoming bill as a significant offset that has so far kept the bill deficit neutral.

But critics charge that insurance companies would recover their losses by increasing their subscribers’ premiums, eventualy passing the tax on to consumers.

For the most part, Pelosi has remained open to a host of fees and other means to pay for healthcare reform.

On Tuesday, she even discussed the possibility of a value-added tax (VAT), which would assess fees based on how much value a manufacturer adds to a product. The speaker insists any change to the tax code included in healthcare reform would not adversely affect middle-class Americans.

But Democrats on Wednesday compared the proposed excise tax compared to the Alternative Minimum Tax, which eventually affected middle-income workers despite its proponents’ insistence otherwise.

“America’s Affordable Health Choices Act includes sensible revenue sources to pay for the legislation,” the lawmakers wrote. “However, inclusion of an excise tax on high-cost insurance plans… could have significant and detrimental effects for millions of middle-class Americans.”

Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Obama will eventually promise these so-called Bluedogs anything to get their votes.

Then, once the legislation becomes the law of the land, they will quietly begin to work their magic.

And soon enough it will become everything they have always wanted it to be.

After all, who is going to stop them?

Most of the country won’t even realize it has happened.

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

20 Responses to “150 Dems: Don’t Tax Health Insurance”

  1. beautyofreason says:

    “More than 150 House Democrats have urged Speaker Nancy Pelosi to quash a new tax on expensive insurance plans for healthcare reform. ”

    Charming. A new tax if you get pricey health insurance? What’s next, if you go to a fancy private hospital or renowned doctor you get an extra tax? Way to punish the consumer. I suspect it’s their goal….force everyone into the public option. Canada banned private insurance for over 20 years after they implemented nationalized health care.

  2. canary says:

    I heard on news that the Obama’s keep changing the words on the bills in the middle of the night. Just like they tack things on to bills. The fathers of lies.

  3. Melly says:

    The cruelist lie is the one told silently……..
    Damn Barry and his gang of radical leftists.

  4. Tater Salad says:

    To the Democrats in Congress who don’t quite get it: I want to offer a personal pledge. I – and a lot of other people – have every intention of removing you from Congress in the next election if you stand in the way of health care legislation that the people want. That is not a hollow or idle threat. We will come to your district and we will work against you, first in the primary and, if we have to, in the general election. We do not want the “Public Option”…..period!

  5. Reality Bytes says:

    Speakin’ of You Just Can’t Fix Stupid, by that picture it seems Ol Nancy got one o’ her brain bubbles again. It’s a shame too. Happens everytime she sits down.

  6. TwilightZoned says:

    “…a 40 percent fee that is already part of the Senate Finance Committee’s draft bill — would “inevitably extend to more and more middle-income Americans across the country.”

    What? Some dems actually had foresight about yearly premium increases where most everyone who has health insurance would hit the Cadillac premium in a very few short years? I’m astonished! (dripping with sarcasm) What a shame the others just don’t give a rats behind how much the middle class pays.

    Add in crap ‘n tax we’ll be paying around 50% of our income to the government. I don’t know about anyone else, but I sure can’t afford it. I guess that’s Barry’s whole point…rob from “the rich” to give to “the poor.” We’ll ALL be poor. Nice level playing field, huh?

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Eating and staying a part of the ‘Statis Quo’ is waaaaaay overrated, TZ!!

    • ONail says:

      As has been repeated by most conservative talk shows, as well as myself: The so-called “Healthcare Reform” is not about health or medicine. It’s about money, power, and absolute control over our lives while the “elite” party members enjoy the riches we provide them.

    • proreason says:

      You aren’t counting all the hidden taxes TZ.

      For example, Health Care costs for the average family of 4 already contain about $8,000 per year as a result of the government underpaying Medical Providers for Medicare. The Providers jack up the costs for the rest of us (via higher Health Care premiums and higher service costs, prescription costs, doctor costs, etc.)

      You won’t see it as a line item, because it is buried in the cost structures.

      That’s probably why the dim dems aren’t worried about Medicare. They are already past masters at taxing us without us knowing about it.

      And of course, that doesn’t county the tsunami tax that is just around the corner. It’s called inflation, and it kills. The way it works is your trusty government simply prints money to pay the debt it owes. Let’s say the commissars need $1 trillion this year. They print $1 trillion. If there are 20 trillion dollars in circulation, then each is worth 1/20th less (because now there are now 21 trillion in circulation instead of 20 trillion. That means in short order than a McDonald’s cheesburger that costs $1 today will cost $1.05 tomorrow.

      If you are working when inflation hits, you won’t be crushed too badly, because as the cost of everything goes up, salaries will follow. But if you aren’t working, inflation will ruin your life. Thousands of people will die because they will sacrifice the heating bill or nutrition or medicine or warm clothing.

      That’s what you government has in mind for you.

      But don’t worry. Most old people won’t be voting for Obamy anyway. So it’s ok.

    • Yarddog1 says:

      If you work, own a home, own a vehicle, own a dog and buy anything, you are probably already paying 50% to the government in some way or another.

      The balance of producers and non-producers / takers is at a critical level.

      Whe there is nothing left to take what will the takers do then?

      We are close to collapse and anarchy.

  7. Rusty Shackleford says:

    In celebration of Nancy’s latest appearance, I went to walmart and got the BluRay edition of The Wizard Of Oz. I will especially enjoy the melting scene in hi-def.

  8. wterrier says:

    Steve my friend you’ve been on fire all week! You too Rusty and Proreason.
    There will be 10 lost years imo. Be thankful we have Uncle Ben fighting Deflation like in the ’30’s even if he has to literally throw money out of Helicopters.It could be worse my friends.

  9. canary says:

    Obama’s desire to be a muslim, and Pelosi’s aggressiveness is really scaring me. When her eyes get like, that and she stabs her finger at us, like Obama does, and when she called us “astro-turf” I felt she wanted to stomp on us…snif..snif…it just reminds me of the 70’s.. sniff..

    and Obama’s own 70’s violent talk…sharing Malcolm X’s dreams but deciding to disguise it. Hating his white blood. His plan to fulfill his hero’s dreams. Pages 86-87

    “Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offfer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me; the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order,
    martial in its discipline,
    forged through sheer force of will. All the other stuff, the talk of
    blue-eyed devils,
    and apocalypse, was incidental to that program,
    I decided, religious baggage that Malcolm himself seemed to have safely abandoned toward the end of his life.

    And yet, even as I imagined myself following Malcolm’s call,
    one line in his book stayed me.
    He spoke of a wish he’d once had, the wish that the
    white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence,
    might somehow be expunged.
    I knew that, for Malcolm, that wish would never be incidental. I knew as well that traveling down the road to self-respect my own white blood would never recede into mere abstraction.
    I was left to wonder what else I would be severing if and when
    I left my mother and granparents at some uncharted border.
    And, too: If Malcolm’s discover toward the end of his life, that some
    whites might live beside him as brother in Islam,
    seemed to offer some hope of eventual reconcilation, that HOPE
    appeared in a distant future, in a far-off land . In the meantime, I looked to see where the people would come from who were willing to work toward this future and populate this new world….
    I decided to keep my own counsel after that, learning to disguise my feverish mood. ”
    Barack Obama Dreams from my Father

    So, the only whites Malcolm X wanted to live with were muslims?

    • wardmama4 says:

      While Canary this has little to do with the topic (not quite off topic – as it is the main thrust of Obama to rule over the majority white population of America and destroy them) – this is what has bothered me the most about Obama – and it should have been the warning shot to those idiots who perceived him as the Great Unifier: You can’t deny and ignore 1/2 of your ancestry and be a unifier, a post racist, a peaceful man, intelligent, benevolent, and the one person to undo the ‘racist’ past of America.

      In neither his denial of his white ancestry, marrying a woman who thinks America is ‘downright mean’ and nothing to be ‘proud’ of, and sitting in a church that had as head minister a man who condemns white America – and at the same time being the descendant of an African, not of a black slave – he is not in the mental state, emotional state nor even in the ancestry position to ‘cure America’s ills’ – like all of his other issues, beliefs and political stances – in this he is just an imposter, a pretender to the throne.

      He hates half of himself – and America is going to pay for it as he acts out his hatred in un-Constitutional policies, racist laws and the ‘redistribution’ of wealth in a vapid and (hopefully) losing attempt to secure a second Administration.

      Meanwhile the economy is tanking, unemployment & foreclosures are rising and the enemies of the state are being emboldened. Biden might have missed on the time (‘within the first 6 months’) but I do not think he missed on the ‘we will be tested’. The problem is how many Americans will die because this hate filled little man-child wants to punish the half of himself that he hates with a passion (and let us not forget, that unlike his dreamy father – it is the half that stood by him and at least attempted to raise him).


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