Good grief, Obama’s renaming terrorists “man-made disastors” and calling conservatives and Republicans dangerous? It will only get worse.

If Obama believes severe punishment ‘does not deter crime’, than he is crazy. He is setting a precedence, that will only increase crime and terrorist acts. America can’t afford these trials and luxeries for terrorists of war.

Obama doesn’t want to spend money on war, but he will spend a fortune to defend those that kill Americans. If Hasan doesn’t get the death penality, he’ll have 24/7 medical assistance, high-tech medical help, while our paralylzed soldiers from wars to the present struggle.

If you’ll note that Barry’s statement indicated that “the community is justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage”

An emotional argument. From the beginning, although tempers have flared and pundits have exclaimed outrage over this or that, the very foundation of our system of laws is to remove the emotion and exploit fair punishment. Agreed, it’s often a sticking point. But his statement clearly demonstrates that like all liberals, the law is to be interpreted emotionally. That makes it relativistic and valueless.

I won’t go on about appealing to the sympathy of the court….that’s a whole week of discussion.

As for the Clinton experiment, they simply did their best to “outlaw” terrorism. In a typically intellectually superior way, they sat around and said, “Hey, how can we ever catch these guys and punish them if there aren’t any laws specifically against what they do?”. So they “examined it” the way those types of people examine the need for “hate crime” legislation. Again, relativistic and based largely on emotion. This is why an all-white Catholic church burning down in Wisconsin is a “mysterious fire” but an all-black Baptist church burning down in Alabama is a “suspected hate-crime” and comes with its own level of punishment and rules for the courtroom.

Of course, it’s absurd. Without any specific legislation all crimes are covered under SOME existing statute, law or ordnance. The newsmedia quickly wiped away the term “designer laws” in just about the same week as they appeared in the 80′s I believe.

Perhaps it gives them satisfaction for their own existence or perhaps it makes them feel that much more powerful but lawyers-cum-legislators seem to fall victim to that old axiom, “When you’re up to your ass in alligators, it’s difficult to remember that your original plan was to drain the swamp”.

So they get fixated on procedure and due process while they forget the alligators are plotting, scheming and trying new things. They feel helpless because they don’t have any “designer laws” they can fall back on should they catch any of them. And they find it especially frustrating that they can’t hold them accountable because, in their narrow view, terrorists haven’t broken any of our laws. There are no laws that specifically outlaw flying a plane into a building so therefore there’s no way to process that in the courts and thus, no suitable punishment. Not the way they see it.

It’s a totally stupid approach. They, of course think it’s the perfect approach. Come up with laws that they violate and then you have something to work with.

Conservatives find all that relativism unnecessary. That’s why Bush put them in Gitmo. Armed conflict, terrorists, undeclared war, whatever. They are bad people. They will get their day but it’s just as satisfactory to let them rot in a holding center until hell freezes over. Bleeding hearts thought this inappropriate and cruel. And thus I have arrived at the emotional disconnect of the garden variety liberal.

I remember a show where I ain’t Fond ‘a Jane was in her house in Colorado and heard a noise downstairs one night. Just like the idiot in every bad scary movie, she goes down to investigate and there’s a bear in her kitchen. Somehow sensing some uber-mental connection with the animal, she said she “told it to get out in an authoritative voice” and it did. That one event probably reinforced in her that it’s ok to treat the bad guys nicely. I would have been far more satisfied to read that “Jane Fonda Mauled By Grizzly In Home”. Because that is the far likelier outcome.

My point is that the liberal disconnects the thing the bad people did…because they are “after all, people…with feelings and so forth. So they must be treated to hot chocolate and read bedtime stories. And they mustn’t be “punished” but rehabilitated and returned to live stable, productive lives. And by showing them the warm, fuzzy side of life and that we aren’t “out to get them” they will then drop their violent ways and calm down.

These are the kinds of people who suffer from abusive relationships—repeatedly. These are the people who get mugged and then drop the charges when they hear the perpetrator’s sob story in court. These people frustrate cops no end.

Oddly, though, they have no problem killing fishermen, hunters, vandalizing furriers, etc. And the name-calling.

As has been said so many times…liberalism is a disease.

“While the evidence tells me that the death penalty does little to deter crime, I believe there are some crimes – mass murder, the rape and murder of a child – so heinous, so beyond pale,
that the community is
justified in expressing the full measure of its outrage
by meting out the ultimate punishment.”

Barack Obama: the audacity of hope 59-60 values from Obama’s campaign book.”

New York can bring their own charges against the individuals, just as the state of Oklahoma could have filed their own state charges and tried the terrorists after the 10th district federal court if they felt the punishment or outcome wasn’t enough. If the WTC was not a federal building, than I’d say New York has more authority than the Federal Government.

Oklahoma was not happy with federal government verdict on Terry Nichols and wanted death penalty as McVeigh recieved.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-46687144.html

McVeighs motion he would not get fair trial moved to 10th district
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur16.htm

The below is interesting on Bill Clinton trying to get the Anti-Terrorist Act prior to the OKC incident. McVeigh testified the Arkansas Federal building was their first choice. Inspite of witnesses and to this day hidden documents,
President Bill Clinton immediately called it a homegrown terrorist job, and so this caused a backlash to the bill, as the context of he & Biden pushing it, was to go after Republicans and Libertarians.

So, pretty amazing for the Democrats to make such a fuss when Bush only enacted former Bill Clinton’s law fo wire-tapping, etc. to fight the muslim terrorists declaration of war on the U.S. Sept 11, 2001. Never to be forgotten.
This would also show that Obama very well can declare the muslim terrorist attack on Ft. Hood what it is. Obama could call it another act of war against the U.S. But, let’s not rush to judgement as Obama did on the tiny Cambridge incident, that led to Obama’s Beer Summit.

The 1996 Anti-Terrorist Act

S. 390 was introduced February 10, 1995 by Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, and Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania. H.R. 896 was introduced the same day in the House by Rep. Charles Schumer, D-New York, and Rep. Dicks.

Presidential powers expanded.
The President can label organizations — without any appeal or review — as “terrorist”, and criminalize fundraising for humanitarian aid even remotely related to such groups.

Under Clinton’s proposal, the FBI would have the power to examine financial, travel, and telephone records, conduct wiretapping, and infiltrate “suspect” groups. Clinton said such powers were needed to protect “our way of life.”

http://www.boogieonline.com/re.....ror95.html

At CNN,NBC,CBS,Fox & ABC new careers will be made. New Greta’s will be born. (Obama care take me out now!),

Thousands on NY $750.00 an hour slim bags will be feeding off this case for years. You and I will be picking up the tab.

If a female is in the prosecutor team we will hear about her hair, her dates, her porn on the internet and she will soon be on a reality show.

Heaven help any prosecutor who served in one of the gulf wars. He will be dismissed and arrested.

The jury of his peers will certainly mean Muslims on the jury: probably all Muslims of the same sect. Christians and Jews will be immediately disqualified.

Of course there will be jury intimidation. Any convicting juror will have to go through life worrying about an avenging dagger in the back.

On the other hand each juror will be shopping a book deal.

The judge will be angling for his own show.

The CIA and the Bush administration will be the ones really on trial here. I expect Bush to get 10-20 years. Cheney will get the death penalty. Rove will get life. The CIA will get community service bathing Muslim feet before prayer.

KSM will be found not guilty. He will sue and win $100,000,000 for his abuse and torture. He will buy a co-op in NY and be a star on the liberal party circuit.

Eventually he will buy “Gitmo”. Obama will return it to Castro. Castro and KSM will turn it into a sort of Muslim Disney Land where Muslims can go to celebrate the death of the Great Satan. They will have a great ride where each Muslim can experience flying a 757 into their choice of towers, blowing a hole in the side of US warship, attacking the Pentagon, slicing off a journalist head, the Hood Shooting Gallery, dragging dead soldiers through Mogadishu, deflowering virgins and drunken pre-suicide escapades with liquor, women and gambling.

There will be the 2′X4′ cell with cut glass on the floor and walls where KSM was tortured for months by the CIA without revealing a single secret. There will be reenactments of his torture with electrodes and Barry Manilow music. Then go to the KSM water park with every water park ride you ever imagines.

It will be an attraction for the whole family, CIA officers will be there to operate rides and help you wash for prayers. Make your reservations today. Each flight on Air KSM flight will have a complimentary “hijacking” so the fun and frivolity begins before you ever get off the plane.

Otherwise, this is Obama enabling the continuation of the 9/11 attack to “bomb” our intelligence community and legal system.

All in all, I am absolutely outraged with this despicable, incompetent “administration”.

“This will be a trial that the Terrosists will conduct against us”

“This is the second half of the Terror attack”

http://www.therightscoop.com/k.....scionable/

“It is unconscionable”

Americans are so intolerant.

And no, I would not wish to be on that jury. Being a juror in one of these cases would be the equivalent of a death sentence –– not only for the juror, but also for his family members –– once your name becomes known (which is inevitable).

Imagine sitting in the jury box and looking across the bar into the gallery, a gallery filled with sullen Muslims. Many in black hijab and burqa. With only their eyes showing through the narrow slits. And those eyes study your features. And the clever fingers draw your likeness on their sketch pads. . . . pausing only to murmur softly, “Allahu Akbar,” whenever the defense insults the memory of the 3,000 dead.

But take comfort. For happily it is possible that these cases will never go to the jury. The cases may be summarily dismissed by the judge on defense motions, for any number of reasons. For example, dismissed for failure to Mirandize the defendant, for denial of his constitutional right to have an attorney present during his interrogation, for denial of his constitutional right to a speedy trial, for denial of his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination, for lack of police testimony about the circumstances of his arrest, for use of torture and insufficient evidence due to the exclusionary fruit-of-the-poisonous-tree rule, etc.

Oh yes, the defense attorneys will have a field day. Count on it.

Imagine also the security precautions that are going to be required to lock down southern Manhattan.

I was present when they tried Zacarias Moussaoui in the U.S. district court for the Eastern District of Virginia (Alexandria). They closed off the perimeter to all vehicle traffic and saturated the neighborhood of the courthouse with heavily armed guards, checkpoints, guard huts, concrete Jersey barriers, tire shredders, motorcycle cops, and mobile troops in black SUVs. Each time the prisoner was delivered from the Alexandria jail to the courthouse, and returned, it was under a heavy escort of black SUVs, and streets in Alexandria along the route were closed off by motorcycle cops and barriers.

Imagine doing all that in downtown Manhattan. Every day. For months on end.

Which raises another interesting question –– if it has to be a trial in a civilian court, why the Federal district court in New York? Why not the Federal district court in Alexandria? After all, the Pentagon was also attacked. And the Alexandria court has experience with security, and military forces are located at nearby bases.

Notice also that Tigellinus-Holder withheld this announcement until Nerobama was gone on his Asia tour. How convenient. Announcement delayed no doubt so that Nerobama might distance himself politically from the decision.

Creep.

The people who voted this creep into office should be taken out behind the barn and horse-whipped.

Never forget.

I won’t.