Comments on: ACLU Revives CIA Lawsuit – Citing Memos

By: MinnesotaRush

MinnesotaRush — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:46:47 +0000

Pro .. you and I are routinely “on the same page”; but gosh, pal, .. I’m feelin’ as though that o-blah-blah speech thing is plenty darn close to torture!

:-)

By: proreason

proreason — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:31:08 +0000

Torture is easy to define.

Torture is the infliction of pain that would ordinarilly cause a person to seek relief.

Subjecting a person to unusual cold or heat is torture. Long term solitary confinement is torture.

Waterboarding is not. Loud music below the pain threshhold is not. Going naked is not. Hand slaps that don’t hurt are not. Even forcing someone to listen to an Obama speech isn’t torture.

This is not a subject that should even be subject to debate.

The debate is about politics, not torture.

And it isn’t the politics of torture, it’s the politics of gaining domestic power.

By: canary

canary — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:39:52 +0000

I saw Glen Beck and Ollie North mentioned the torture used in our own military to prepare them in case they were captures. It reminded me of a film I saw in the military on this type training. Sure, boot camp is pretty rough, but I had forgotten, and remembered a friend going to Air Force Acadamy, being buried up to his neck, and all that. Yet, alone the marines, and Special Forces go through. I mean soldiers die form accidents.
And so these Obomi’s are just the scum of this country to being doing what they are doing. These Obomi’s couldn’t last a day in Iraq or Afganistan, when many of our troops have been on several tours. I still believe that anyone running for president should have to get some type of military experience or training. Too bad there is not a long lenghty questionaire they have to fill out. Or tests they have to take. Something more solid, and transparent, than the flip flopping we’ve seen from Obomi.

9/11 was TORTURE . Our American troops are going through TORTURE everyday overseas. Everytime they drive by some freak in robes standing by the road, they wonder if they will blow up. They are daily experiencing the belief they might die, and living in harsh conditions with very little. Would the ACLU should sue Obama for the ongoing torture of our troops? Hypocrites.

By: MinnesotaRush

MinnesotaRush — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:26:11 +0000

“… enemies of the United States .. foreign and DOMESTIC ..”

By: Jason Gillman

Jason Gillman — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:49:21 +0000

Obama might well expect to remain in office forever and is showing his hand in this fashion.

If not, ALL of the criminals he has put into positions of power are going to be investigated from the end of his administration for the next 20 years.

Can you say “dictator for life?”

By: BillK

BillK — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:21:58 +0000

That didn’t take long; from the Denver Post:

ACLU cites CIA memos in reviving suit

SAN FRANCISCO — The American Civil Liberties Union seeks to use memos released by President Barack Obama to revive a lawsuit claiming Douglas County- based Jeppesen Dataplan, a Boeing Co. unit, disguised the CIA’s delivery of suspected terrorists to secret prisons.

The memos, detailing interrogation techniques used by the Central Intelligence Agency, undermine U.S. government claims that allowing the case to proceed will jeopardize state secrets, Ben Wizner, a lawyer for the ACLU, wrote in a letter Tuesday to a federal appeals court in San Francisco.

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_12195258

After all, there are no “state secrets” under Obama.