SubscribeAl Gore Wins Nobel Peace Prize For Slide Show
From an elated Associated Press:
Al Gore, UN panel share Nobel for Peace
By DOUG MELLGREN and MATT MOORE, Associated Press Writers
Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change jointly won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and to lay the foundations for fighting it.
Gore, who won an Academy Award earlier this year for his film on global warming, “An Inconvenient Truth,” had been widely tipped to win the prize.
He said that global warming was not a political issue but a worldwide crisis.
“We face a true planetary emergency. … It is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity,” he said. “It is also our greatest opportunity to lift global consciousness to a higher level.”
The win is also likely add further fuel to a burgeoning movement in the United States for Gore to run for president in 2008, which he has so far said he does not plan to do.
Kenneth Sherrill, a political scientist at Hunter College in New York said Gore probably enjoys being a public person more than an elected official.
“He seems happier and liberated in the years since his loss in 2000. Perhaps winning the Nobel and being viewed as a prophet in his own time will be sufficient,” says Sherrill.
Two Gore advisers, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to share his thinking, said the award will not make it more likely that he will seek the presidency. If anything, the Peace Prize makes the rough-and-tumble of a presidential race less appealing to Gore, they said, because now he has a huge, international platform to fight global warming and may not want to do anything to diminish it.
One of the advisers said that while Gore is unlikely to rule out a bid in the coming days, the prospects of the former vice president entering the fray in 2008 are “extremely remote.”
In its citation, the committed lauded Gore’s “strong commitment, reflected in political activity, lectures, films and books, has strengthened the struggle against climate change. He is probably the single individual who has done most to create greater worldwide understanding of the measures that need to be adopted.” …
In its citation, the committee said that Gore “has for a long time been one of the world’s leading environmentalist politicians” and cited his awareness at an early stage “of the climatic challenges the world is facing…
Would it be wrong to demand a recount? After all, what does giving a slide show with phony facts have to do with “peace”?
However, I guess it hardly matters. Jimmy Carter and Yasser Arafat had nothing to do with peace either. They also won for a lot of hot air.
But seriously, isn’t the rise of Islamic extremism around the world, which has taken the lives of Allah knows how many, isn’t that a greater threat to world peace than global warming will ever be?
Even if global warming is occurring, and even if the Earth’s temperature goes up a tenth of a degree in the next thousand years, so whateth? How many are going to die because of that? Will we ever know? (The mini Ice Age killed millions, and is thought to have brought on the Black Plague.)
On the other hand it is fairly easy to discern when someone has been slaughtered by a Muslim fanatic. And who in the world is trying to stop that? The UN? Al Gore?
The United States, especially the US military and our allies in the struggle against Islamic terror, should have been awarded any peace prizes that are being given out.
But how effective has Mr. Gore been, even against the bogeyman of Global Warming?
In its citation, the committee said that Gore “has for a long time been one of the world’s leading environmentalist politicians” and cited his awareness at an early stage “of the climatic challenges the world is facing.
Well, what did he do when he had the chance to effect a real change in US policy?
From Bill Clinton’s autobiography, My Life, page 638:
The Kyoto global warming talks opened on December 1 [1997]. Before they were over, Al Gore flew to Japan to help our chief negotiator, Undersecretary of State Stu Eizenstat, get an agreement we could sign, with firm targets but without undue restrictions on how to achieve them and with a call for developing countries like China and India to participate; within thirty years they would surpass the United States as emitters of greenhouse gases (the United States is now the world’s leading emitter).
Unless the changes were made, I couldn’t submit the treaty to Congress; it would be difficult to pass in the best of circumstances. With the support of Prime Minister Hashimoto, who wanted Kyoto to be a success for Japan, and other friendly nations including Argentina, the negotiations produced an agreement I was happy to support, with targets I thought we could meet, if Congress would enact the tax incentives necessary to promote the production and purchase of more conservation technologies and clean energy products.
So exactly how effective was Mr. Gore?
Obviously the changes weren’t made, since Mr. Clinton never submitted the agreement to the Senate for ratification.
Oh, well, the Nobel Prize committee has just made their accolade into that much more of a joke. Who knew that would even be possible?
How history will laugh.
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October 12th, 2007 at 10:33 am
I wonder if he’s happy that my 10 year old thinks we’re all going to be dead in 50 years. (and the local middle school for sneaking it into the weather curriculum).
October 12th, 2007 at 10:36 am
Al Gore joins the greats in Nobel peace prize history. People like Churchill, FDR and Truman for ending a world war, Richard Nixon for opening relations with China. Ronald Reagan for ending the Cold War, George HW Bush for containing a brutal dictator and restoring the rights of a sovereign nation and George W Bush for toppling a brutal dictator and attempting to establish a democratic reqime. Oh, wait a minute…. None of these people won…. History will either laugh or weep.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Nuthingbettertodo: Don’t let them “sneak” that crap into your kid’s curriculum. I stopped it at my school. All politics is local….People have to stand up and stop this nonsense before it starts costing REAL money and stops REAL human progress worldwide.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:43 am
The answer for this is simple.
1. The left treats global warming - and those who live ‘green’ lives - as a religion and as devout persons, respectively. At the same time the openly distain true, real, and centuries-old religion.
2. They hysterically trip over themselves to prove how tolerant, PC, loving, and embracing they are of Islam, regardless of how violent Islam is.
Those two points make it inevitable that Gore - global warming’s personal Jesus - would win the prize while those who try to combat Islam - the people of Jihad Watch or Ali Hersi (apologies for any misspellings) - are treated with distain, if they’re noticed at all.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:45 am
A steaming shovel full.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:51 am
rhahn - They usually send out opt out notices a week or two ahead of time. This one came out the day before which was buried in the mountain of junk papers they bring home every day. Most parents I spoke to didn’t know either. They were able to watch the first 40 minutes then the bell rang. No discussion. I promptly reemed the teacher and principal via email (they were already gone for the day) and they called the next morning and said they weren’t going to show the rest of the movie. I ended up renting it to see what she saw and promptly deprogrammed her. It’s a small school district and I didn’t see it coming. Trust me I’m all over this sh&t now!
October 12th, 2007 at 10:54 am
Since Gore gets a prize for knowing Power Point, does this mean that I can get a Nobel prize for the B-26 diorama I’m building for the county museum?
Gad…the Nobel prizes have been jokes for fifty or so years, this just elevated them to the level of farce.
October 12th, 2007 at 11:17 am
nuthngbettertodo: Good for you. I know what you mean, they tried to sneak the movie in at my school since it is “G” rated and did not require a permission slip. Fortunately, my boys told me about the screening because I had previously asked them to tell me if the school attempted to show the film. I guess we have to recruit our kids as “junior spies” in order to stop this crap….At least they are not spying on me, (I hope!)
October 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
My only question about this asshat getting any kind of as award is: Will we get a Flying Nun moment during the acceptance speech? You know the one…..You love me…..you really love me! And that would occur just before he overly expanded head starts cracking like a watermelon and explodes.
/sarc
October 12th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Al Gore wins a Nobel Peace Prize for doing more than any other individual to perpetuate a lie.
If anyone needed any proof the Nobel Peace Prize has been a joke for years, this is it.
Once more: Anthropogenic Global Warming cannot be proved as it has no supporting evidence whatsoever.
Talk to most any actual climatologist, privately in their offices where their colleagues can’t hear them, and they’ll tell you the same.
October 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Czech President Vaclav Klaus was quoted as saying, “The relationship between his activities and world peace is unclear and indistinct,” the statement said. “It rather seems that Gore’s doubting of basic cornerstones of the current civilization does not contribute to peace.” (He doesn’t believe the man-made global warming theory either.)
I agree…what does a global warming hoax have to do with World peace? What a joke!
Maybe Algore and the UN are trying to let us know that there will be no peace unless we pay that dang “carbon credit tax”.
October 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
We should be happy for him. The White House is.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Scientific American has this feature in which they print what was in their magazine in the corresponding month a hundred years ago. The idea is “isn’t it funny we ever thought that?” But they’re all over this global warming crap (as in, reporting it as true). I wonder what they will say about it in a hundred years. “Uh, well, we didn’t really have any scientific evidence, but in our defense, tons of people actually believed it, and usually that means something is true.”
Disclaimer: do not surmise that because I sometimes read Scientific American I actually know anything about science, or have any scientific aptitude or intelligence. I actually hate that magazine. You see the cover and think “that should be an interesting article” but it NEVER is. Except maybe to smart people.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
If this “prize” wasn’t already a farce, it without a doubt is now.
October 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
This is another stellar example of just how insignificant the Nobel Peace Prize has become. It used to mean something. It used to be given to actual people who did something good. That stopped years ago. Al Gore is just another in a long line of pandering jerks who are awarded a prize which has become synonymous with “useless” and “stupid”.
Judging by the past recipients though, he is right up there with the rest of the anus’s with legs that can and do create an aura of intelligence and moral superiority. Anyone who has the support of the United Nations and our own country’s left has the moral superiority of a retarded dust mite. Let him wallow in his own self importance. He sucks. He is costing the nation billions of wasted dollars on junk science…..and he will flourish until the next huge “cause d’ jour” bubbles out of the muck….and a willing population runs in that direction leaving him in the dirt.
If it wasnt so ludicrous, it would be funny. I think of all the people who are going to starve to death because Al got the “biofuel” turd dropping out of his pie hole…..corn that would have fed millions is going into his Mercedes instead. Carbon footprints? I couldnt use all the gas in my lifetime that he uses just getting to another award ceremony. Carbon footprints my ass. He needs to have a “tater stickprint” on his forehead. What a complete ass.
October 12th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
As I said above, since
global warmingclimate change* is the official religion of the liberals and the liberal elite, and Al Gore is now their savior, we should all know the Ten Commandments of Climate Change (from Plebian at the Daily Dollop, http://dailydollop.blogspot.co.....hange.html)All hail his holiness, Al Gore! Creator of the Internet and savior of Mother Gaia!
* My sources now inform me that climate change is the correct term, as it explains all that pesky cooling that would, in a rational world, throw a wrench into the global warming argument.
October 12th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
algore has found his ticket to vast and unlimited riches and adulation by the loons of the universe…..legally ripping off the entire world. He ain’t going to let go soon.
October 12th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
“In the United States…we have to first convince the American People and the Congress that the climate problem is real.”
former President Bill Clinton in a 1997 address to the United Nations
“Nobody is interested in solutions if they don’t think there’s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are…”
Al Gore (ex-Vice President and current Chairman of Generation Investment Management– a business for selling carbon credits he co-founded in London)
(in interview with Grist Magazine May 9, 2006, concerning his book, An Inconvenient Truth)
October 12th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Congratulations to Al Gore for his winning of the Nobel Peace Prize. I keed, I keed. It is now just like the awards that are on T.V. Self-aggrandizing fluff.
October 12th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Well thank you for sharing that little tidbit “nuthingbettertodo”
Aigore has his mits in more places than I knew.
October 12th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
I supose when the dust clears from WWIII - we can add the Nobel panelists to the list of clueless, appeasers who enabled the radical islamic terrorists to get a pass with their pandering and utter disgracing of what was once a valid recognition. . .
Until the man stops consuming more than the average 3 American families - not to mention probably more than the average 10 other Country families - how dare he tell me 1)that I am at fault and 2)that I must change my lifestyle (which our ‘carbon footprint’ is negative) - so You First Al Gore. Until then STFU.
I know the fastest way to insure that a Republican will be elected in 2008 -
AL GORE FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Putting the climate change debate to one side for a moment.
Putting any inconvenient demagogic content to one side for a moment.
The fundamental question is this:
How is it possible to win a Nobel Peace Prize for a film about global warming …
… that doesn’t mention nuclear power?
That’s utterly cowardly …
If you propose radical reductions in CO2 emissions then you have to
offer a valid alternative energy source, and nuclear power is the only
serious contender in town.
Otherwise, all you are doing is engaging in the nihilistic politics of negationism.
The earth gets warmer, and we roll back the Industrial Revolution to the Middle Ages
(which incidentally were pretty warm anyway).
October 12th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
History will not laugh or weep. History will applaud, for history is written by the victors.
For the victors are stupid, & 90% of the public is stupid, & therefore accepting of the doctrines of politicians. Just witness those who are running for Prez. Morons, all. The stupidity cannot be stopped.
Excellent points from everyone.
October 12th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
I was out tilling the garden , and up came this years ” peace prize ” . Right out of the ground . Nope , sorry it was just an old horseshoe .Worth about the same I guess .
October 12th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Anti nuclear activists hyped the “dangers” of nuclear power so successfully, they dont dare bring it up as the cleanest, most abundant, most efficient and zero carbon footprint zero carbon dioxide zero fossil fuel using entity in the universe save for cold fusion, which Al hasnt invented yet.
Nuclear is the only option if these bozos truly had a climate change prevention strategy in mind. They dont. They could give two shits. What they are changing isnt the climate, but the size of their offshore bank accounts as brainless loons follow them over the cliff and spend countless dollars on nothing more than illusions.
But, I agree with WM4….I am not going to walk…and I am not going to be cold. I am not going to do a damn thing to abrogate climate change until Fat Boy gives up his perks, donates ALL of his wealth to scientists who can make a difference, and forces China and India to use one Coleman Stove on a bi weekly share program….limited to one per villiage. Fat Boy wants money…fame….and money. He has achieved both.
I dont have either. Until I ido, then Al will just have to pound salt up his anus…..because I dont believe any of it, and I am not going to do squat to help either. As a matter of fact, I am going outside, and burning a large pile of coal that I set on fire with carbon rich tar, and laugh while I melt plastic lawn furniture in the flames….all the while thinking of a giant bamboo fan that will warm the atmosphere at a greater rate than the gas emmitting from Gore’s monumental lie hole. Again…Al! Fat Boy! STFU!!!!
October 12th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
DGC, I always say nothing is idiot proof, Idiots are just too damn persistent.
Wire the horseshoe is worth more, AiGore and UnWelcome back Carter are living proof.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Dez, with that in mind…..I hope none of us is ever nominated for a Nobel Prize!!!!….it is almost as damning as a Pulizter. Carter? Now Gore? What the hell did Gore do to promote peace in this world? His lies? His freaking book of misinformation and lies? We all know what Carter did, and is doing. This is frustrating, watching our country being dismantled by people who think they know best…..and they are frighteningly wrong.
October 12th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Not quite. The Left treats those who claim to lead green lives as devout… Compare Bush’s house to Gore’s….
Who cares who gets the Nobel Peace Prize anyway? A bunch of liberal peckerslurps in Sweden look at the entire world, pick out somebody (most often, whoever is most harmful to America), say, “we like THIS guy this year,” and give him a medal and a million and a half bucks.
Not to mention that his book is an absolute crock….
http://digitalexpressions.nu/d....../1539474/
It’s not that he puts facts that in dispute or quotes discredited sources (in fact, he doesn’t quote any sources). It’s that he consistently and deliberately lies about easily-verifiable facts that pisses me off. Well, actually that part doesn’t surprise me–it’s that he gets away with it that pisses me off.
October 13th, 2007 at 1:54 am
Not a story per se, but just more propaganda:
Apple, Inc. (formerly Apple Computer) has an RSS feed of what is supposed to be “Hot Apple News” (typically things like iMac reviews, stories about new iPhone features or new software releases, and so on.)
The first four items at present at feed://www.apple.com/main/rss/hotnews/hotnews.rss :
You’ll see in the third story the alleged reason they’re making such a big deal out of it (other than the fact it fits their corporate politics to a tee): AlGore is on Apple’s board of directors. (Oooh, I guess that makes him an eeeevil corporate executive.)
For HTML-only types, you can see the “Hot News” displayed on Apple’s page here:
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/
October 13th, 2007 at 9:39 am
Was there anything in the Apple feed about this?
What’s Al Gore Doing About Apple’s Slave Labor? | Sweetness & Light
http://sweetness-light.com/arc.....lave-labor
October 14th, 2007 at 7:35 am
The loon commentaries continue.
From the Wisconsin State Journal, in a column enttitled “Nobel Prize validates Gore efforts” (so you know where this is headed):
I stopped here, before I threw up.
Summed up, it’s the typical liberal mantra: It matters not what he’s done, he means well.
October 14th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Thanks BillK, I appreciate your restraint. I nearly lost my morning ‘cup-o-joe’ there.
Funny thing about the Goracle’s “Inconvenient Truth” prophecies, his ‘water’ is turning to ice.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot......aches.html
Hmmm, record ice coverage in Antarctica this year? I thought the prophet said it was melting fast?
But it’s still due to global warming, right?
Go figure, why let facts get in the way of the Goracle’s prophetic oratory. What a maroon..!!
October 15th, 2007 at 12:26 am
It appears that the tides are changing in the public sentiment about algore’s worthiness of this award. Scientists and several World Leaders have been challenging his GW theory and the logic of him winning the Peace Prize. History will prove him to be a fool.
There are two petitions circulating. One to recall algores’ Peace Prize and one for him to surrender his Oscar for his Documentary (too many false facts).
October 15th, 2007 at 9:13 am
More peace-loving difference makers from the Nobel Prize’s prestigiuos list:
2005-IAEA and Mohamed Al Baradei
2002-Jimmy Carter (notice the impeccable post-9/11, in-your-face-warmongers timing for his “decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development). Yeah, that’s what he does.
2001-United Nations and Kofi Annan (no achievement is listed. Possibly because there has never been one).
1994-Jointly awarded to Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin.
1993-Jointly awarded to Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem DeKlerk
1990-Mikhail Gorbachev for “helped to bring the Cold War to an end.” (Odd how the person who actually did bring the Cold War to an end, Ronald Reagan, wasn’t jointly awarded this medal isn’t it?)
But there obviously isn’t any anti-US political agenda at play here, huh?
October 15th, 2007 at 10:48 am
AmericanIPA……… Michael Ramirez has a cartoon with your same sentiment … http://www.ibdeditorials.com/c.....rc=DMCTOON
October 15th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
This truely Saint of a woman was passed over in order to give algored the prize. The NPP is indeed a farce.
From Newsbuster:
October 17th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
I am sorry to point out that your logic is so flawed. How is it Gore’s fault that the treaty was not submitted to Congress? and how does your comment about the Black Plague support your argument? It does just the opposite, showing that drastic climate changes can bring on health threats that can wipe out millions.
As for the war in Iraq being a positive move to end terrorism–not that I condone war, but wouldn’t it make sense to deal with the country that actually produced the terrorists that attacked our country? This war is the equivalent of the U.S. deciding to attack China in retaliation for the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.
What do people like you think , that we can all just go on blithely consuming and disposing and never have to pay a consequence? If you are all about family values, think about what you are leaving for the future generations of your family. If you are such a Christian, what about thinking about the effects of deforestation, pollution and an energy crisis have on your fellow man?
October 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
This war is the equivalent of the U.S. deciding to attack China in retaliation for the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor.
If you recall, at the time of Pearl Harbor Japan was in the process of invading and occupying China.
Read up on history, that way it will take us longer to decide you are a fool.
October 17th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Concerned American……the main crux of this thread was how appalled people are that Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize for his publication and movie on GLOBAL WARMING. In as much as it has nothing to do with peace, and everything to do with Gore’s version of junk science.
China and India will become the world’s leading polluters within this decade, and they haven’t been approached about doing anything to stop it, or even diminish it. The entire argument here was based on Gore’s insistence that we, America, do everything possible to stop Global Warming, yet allow the rest of the world to spew out trillions of tons of pollutants willy nilly without a problem.
Al Gore is using the same science that less than thirty years ago was hyping the freezing of the planet because of our wasteful ways. Now, because the Warming issue has been so easily discredited by scores of scientists who keep patiently explaining the holes in the Warming theory, they are beginning to call it “climate change”.
The earth has undergone cyclic climate changes since it’s inception billions of years ago, eduring mass extinctions due to a myriad of causes, all hotly debated to this day, by the way…but the earth will continue to go through climate changes with or without our help. The dire predictions of Gore’s book simply dont add up, and even if we did absolutely nothing, the warming trend will take hundreds of thousands of years to become a problem to the environment, and by then, technology will have made sufficient leaps to counter it.
As it stands, we dont have the technology to combat this so called crisis. On top of that, the only true clean source of energy that would eliminate a great percentage of carbon dioxide emissions is being stopped and blocked at every turn by activists and eco freaks who will never submit that nuclear power is the answer. It is, and because it is not on the table, the other “alternatives” being presented are simply not going to do the trick.
As for fighting terrorists in a country you swear has nothing to do with terror…just because the principles are hiding in caves in Afghanistan doesnt mean that their minions wont carry the fight elsewhere. Iraq is the center of the fight on terror, because that’s where the terrorists are challenging us militarily. If they left, and went to another country, they would be attacked there too…..at any rate, better to fight them there than here, because this country is infested with a much greater enemy….people who for whatever reason think that they are immune from attack because of an ideology, and not because of a cognizant thought process.
Using China and Japan as an analogy shows your thought process to be frozen in the past, and you are yet to awaken to the very real globalization of Islamic terror. The old rules dont fit, and I for one am not willing to sit around and hope they dont come back. They will. And in a big way, and when they do, the last thing on your mind is going to be how we insulted Al Gore.
Millions of Americans are doing what they can to help the environment, they just arent on a blog blathering about it. They just do it. Most people arent the throw away consumers of the past…and you may be surprised to learn that almost every community has in place rules to help the ecology, such as recycling, waste management, and evironmental controls. They dont need someone to force it on them…they understand.
As for your jab at being Christian…there are over a Billion buddists, and a Billion Hindus who are not doing a damn thing except destroying the ecology at a rate we couldnt hope to match. Out of the world population of almost seven Billion…we are but 300 million…and albiet the largest users of hydro carbons in the world…..we are also world leaders in pollution control. No other country on earth can match our present state of awareness…..they dont have to.
Al Gore is making huge money off this latest scare tactic….and Al Gore is using sixty times the pollutants in one trip to an awards dinner than I can use in my entire lifetime. He sells “carbon offsets”. Sure, tell polluters they have purchased the right to pollute and contribute to climate change, why? Because they paid Al Gore and his company for the right. Where is that carbon offset to? It’s all hype, Gore is a hypocritical egotist, and climate change will occur with or without any help from man. Too bad everyone cant see it that way….but perhaps easily misled people are why he got the Nobel Peace Prize in the first place. What did he do for peace? Sell books?
October 17th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Dear 1st to fight (not always a good thing to be, by the way),
What I was saying is that we are at war with a country that did not attack us. Iraq, like China, never attacked us. That simple.
October 17th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Dear 1st to fight (not always a good thing to be, by the way),
Spoken like a true liberal coward.
BTW, Those who choose to be the ones who are 1sttofight have keep your sorry ass free for longer than the US has been a country.
What have you done for the USA?
What I was saying is that we are at war with a country that did not attack us. Iraq, like China, never attacked us. That simple.
Which country did attack us?
October 17th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Dear sheehanjihad,
While wordy and strident, you at least use logical arguments. Again, all I was saying was that in this article the writer’s logic was flawed–I never weighed in on the appropriateness of Gore’s winning the prize.
Regarding your comment, “you may be surprised to learn that almost every community has in place rules to help the ecology, such as recycling, waste management, and evironmental controls. They dont need someone to force it on them…they understand.” I’m not surprised, I have been aware of these efforts since the 1970s, when I learned about them in school (thank heavens no uneducated parents forced my very Catholic school to stop teaching such things!). But you might be surprised to know that there are still people who do not understand, and don’t even know how to help the ecology. So if Gore has educated even one person, whether his presentation was Nobel prize worthy or not, it’s a good thing. It sounds like you know also know a lot about the subject–I hope that you are educating people as well.
October 17th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Concerned American……
While the polar ice cap (at the North Pole) is melting, the polar ice (at the South Pole) is increasing at an equivalent rate. Yes the climate is changing, that is an indisputable fact. It is getting warmer in the northern hemisphere and colder in the southern hemisphere. That is an indisputable fact. It’s also an indisputable fact the the cycle has been reproducing itself over billions of years without the doomsday that Al Gore loves to predict. And since water finds its own level, less ice in the north and more in the south does not equal rising global water levels. So it’s not an Inconvenient Truth as he likes to claim, it’s an indisputable fact. What is in question is whether man is contributing to this. From the research I’ve personally done, reading literature, books and other publications from actual scientist on both sides of the issues (not from a lay blow hard looking to make a fast buck on scaring little children and people willing to be lead like sheep), I’ve come to the conclusion that man has not contributed to the phenominon, at least not significantly. Now that’s my opinion, just like you have your opinion. I’m not prepared to start taxing and charging premiums for your opinion but people like you are certainly willing to start taxing mine. Al Gore, in my opinion is nothing more than an underachieving blow hard from a racist family that has found a way to make a lot of money and fame off of some junk science. Remember, this is the same Al Gore that tried to convince us he had something to do with inventing this internet we are all using. He is a spoiled brat that can’t and won’t get over the fact that he lost the election in 2000, not that he had it stolen from him. He has no credibility as far as I’m concerned.
As to you comments about the war, in case you haven’t noticed, we aren’t at war with a country. In face, we aren’t even at war with terrorists. We are at war with Islamic Jihadist. No one in our government wants to put it in those terms, no one wants to admit that this may be a war against a religion, but it is. Therefore, it is global in nature. Iraq just happens to be the place on the globe where the present battlefield is located. Oh it will change in the future. That is an indisputable fact. We just don’t want the battlefield to be on U. S. soil. Those who fail to recognize that, don’t recognize the enemy. The last indisputable fact is that if you don’t recognize, or refuse to acknowledge your enemy, your enemy has won. We don’t want that to happen, particularly to people who think like you and are completely helpless to fight for themselves or defend their country.
Oh, I also went to Catholic schools….about 25 years before you, so I believe my opinion is based on a lot more experience, both life experience and education experience. Now go stick your head back in the sand and hope some jihadist doesn’t show up on your doorstep to take your head off. The rest of us will be working hard to make sure that doesn’t happen.
October 17th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
As to you comments about the war, in case you haven’t noticed, we aren’t at war with a country. In face, we aren’t even at war with terrorists. We are at war with Islamic Jihadist.
couldnt have said it better myself….Well done 1st.
October 17th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
“What I was saying is that we are at war with a country that did not attack us. Iraq, like China, never attacked us. That simple.”
Er, we are at war with a country we have been at war with since they invaded Kuwait.
We signed a ceasefire with them, in which the peace was contingent upon the Iraq government abiding to numerous conditions, including inspectors having access to their weapon sites.
Since Saddam reneged on the agreement, we were free to resume hostilities at our convenience.
– It’s that simple.
October 17th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
“More peace-loving difference makers from the Nobel Prize’s prestigiuos list:
2005-IAEA and Mohamed Al Baradei”
AKA as the man who gave North Korea and Iran “the bomb.”
October 17th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Concerned American……..
Yeah, WHAT HE SAID! (Warmonger Infidel) (Even the Catholic part.)
I get soo tired of the “green minded people” thinking that the Conservatives are doing nothing for the environment, alternative energy, etc. I do not believe global warming is man made, although I have always been involved with a better way of doing things.
I have been involved with many volunteer “clean up” programs. ie: beach clean-up, lake clean-up, highway clean-up, hazardous waste clean-up program when I worked for the State of Texas..
I have recycled my trash, (paper, plastic, etc.) for 20 years. Austin has had the recycling program for ever.
Austin started a rain water collection system drive a few years ago where they gave out free rain collection systems. We have a 500 gallon rain water collection system set up in our backyard.
I had land in the Hill Country for over 24 years, that is powered solely by wind and solar energy. Put the first solar panels up in the late 80’s. Even the water well is powered by solar panels. It wasn’t done as an environmental project but as a way of having electricity.
Due to his job getting shipped to China, my husband has been a Contractor in the alternative energy business for the last 7 years. He has worked with 4 different companies, designing, R&D and setting up projects that produce alternative energy. He is currently negotiating for a project that would be a huge break through in the alternative energy field. There are many small business in Texas that are producing, selling or inventing alternative energy. I must admit nowadays there are a few out-of-State carpetbaggers are trying to hone in on these Texas business. I suspect they are Liberals without ideas. The Liberals don’t have a clue.
Texas is #1 in wind power energy. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-163269046.html Did the green minded people know that President Bush got us, in Texas, started on thinking about ways of expanding our energy. ( the media would never let you in on that news) Passed a bill in 1999. Yup, and he also encouraged the wild cater oil companies to reopen oil and gas wells that have been shut down since 1986! My hubby has helped several small oil companies get their generators going to open up old oil wells. Oil is pumping all over this State! (The two oilmen that he did the contract work for hadn’t been in the oil business since the late 80’s)
I get soo tired of all of this garbage about “what are you doing for Mother Earth” this and “we need to be “green” “that. If the Liberals would spend less time griping about what they think others are NOT doing and put that energy into actually doing something about it theirselves…..we would have such a more sane world.
end rant –
Besides, I don’t want to have a “green mind”! It might hurt!.
October 17th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
“So if Gore has educated even one person, whether his presentation was Nobel prize worthy or not, it’s a good thing.”
No Its not on more than one level.
Gore burned more fuel jetting around to promote his film than than most posters on this site will burn in a lifetime, That’s hardly worth educating one person to do his part.
That’s like saying I spent a million to save a dollar.
I also seem to recall Gore having a utility bill on one of his homes that was more than I use in 10 years.
Maybe he could lead by example, (Oh, Yeah, That’s gonna happen.)
Also misinformation is not an education, Its propaganda at the very least.
I am all for conservation, Its just common sense not to waste, And I sure as hell do not need some Bloviating two faced gas bag to tell me I need to tighten my belt while he loosens his.
October 19th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Concerned American, to go back in time, I hope you didn’t take my comments to be an insult to you. After reading WI’s comment, it sent me into a rant on the shallowness of the Liberals. (Hey, I know, I’ll blame it all on WI, Yeah.) :>) The comments were about the Libs. and NOT directed at YOU! (What can I say, I was raised a Catholic and we have this whole “guilt” thing going on… :>)
October 19th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
“The comments were about the Libs. and NOT directed at YOU! ”
My comments were directed toward that liberal troll.
You don’t have to feel one itsy itty bit guilty tsp.
October 19th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
You got a point there WI. (But, if you wear a hat it won’t show) teeheehee :>)
October 20th, 2007 at 2:32 am
Steven Milloy of JunkScience.com has a devastating rebuke of Al Gore here:
October 23rd, 2007 at 10:01 pm
What is algore going to do when none of his theories come true in , say, 10 years or so? It really bothers me that school children are being frightened by this garbage. I worry that without comprehending this information properly, children could go to bed at night worrying that they are going to drowned because the sea level is going to rise. I find it irresponsible! Now McDonalds is going to follow suit with algore’s junk science? Wrong, simply wrong!
Example: When my daughter and her best friend were about 6, we were on our way out to my land to go camping. It is down a road with a lot of hairpin curves that goes through the Hill Country. My daughters friend kept seeing white crosses on the side of the road and asked me why they were there. I explained that it was were a wreck had happened, someone had died and it was placed there by their loved ones to remember them by. I didn’t think another thing about it. When my daughter’s friend was in High School, she told me that for years she always thought that people were buried there where the white crosses were. You can imagine how bad I felt as I thought I had explained it to her thoroughly enough. You have to be careful what you tell little children and how they might interpret the information.
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Texaspsue ,,, you give algored way to much credit . We are the ones to be ” groomed ” to his level of fear , stupidity or apathy . NOT ! You , I and the rest of us here know better . As far as road deaths are handled , some States put up skull and cross bone signs where a death has occurred along the roadway . It keeps me awake and somber , also to focus on my task at hand . Which others that get behind the wheel seem to forget , drive to stay alive . No distractions will do that .
October 25th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Once again, for those not reading, I never commented on whether or not Al Gore’s win was appropriate—what I said was that the logic in the original article was flawed. If the writer wants to prove that Al Gore is not worthy of the prize, let him give the facts, rather than a hashed together quote from Clinton’s book. The bill he speaks of was not presented to Congress because “changes” had to be made. What changes? Was Al Gore responsible for making those changes? I would like to know these things so that I can make an informed opinion. I have seen more facts in the ensuing comments than in the actual article. I did not see Al GOre’s presentation because I too get my facts from scientific studies and other hopefully thrustworthy sources.
As for the vitriolic attacks based on nothing but your assumptions about me…If you are so much older and wiser than I am, at least come up with a real argument. You know nothing about me, my education, my life experience or my ability or inability to defend this country. How do you justify using your assumptions about me as a real argument? I could use the argument that someone your age is probably experiencing the onset of senility and that we shouldn’t listen to you at all, but since I do not actually know you that would only be an assumption, I can not use that as an argument.
And Texaspsue, I appreciated both of your comments. After your first comment I did feel that you had made assumptions about me, that I’m a Liberal. I never made this a Conservative/Liberal argument. But why can’t Conservatives be “green-minded”, it sounds like you certainly are—why is “green-minded a bad thing? I am very aware of the fact that Conservatives and Liberals alike are making an effort to improve the condition of this planet. I applaud your efforts and your husband’s efforts, and anyone else who is doing what they feel they can to help. Things certainly are not going to improve by petty bickering over ideological labels. But try to let go of the Catholic guilt… ( :
Thank you, SG, for confirming the fact that we are actually at war with Iraq. For those of you who are still unsure, you may want to view the White House web site, and the documents there referring to the “War in Iraq”…regardless of how you feel about the veracity of this term, I believe that the families in Iraq who have to live with the consequences of whatever you want to call this “conflict,” the American soldiers who are there fighting, and the families and friends of those who have died in Iraq, would definitely call this a war. And no matter what anyone wants to call this engagement, I hope that you all at least care enough to do what you can to get the government to equip our troops with the necessary equipment to protect their lives, so that they do not need to rely on the ability of their family and communities to purchase this equipment themselves.
Please don’t lecture me about war in our backyard. Of course no one wants to fight a war here in our own country, but that does not automatically give us the right to do so in other countries. Why are we fighting the war on terrorism in Iraq, and not Saudi Arabia, country of origin for the majority of the 9/11 terrorists? Should we bomb England, Germany, Spain, and Indonesia, where the terrorists are also at work? As a member of a three-generation Army family, I grew up with the fear of war in my head and in my heart. I feared real threats of war that most Americans never even knew existed, because they were dealt with diplomatically and multi-nationally, because the U.S. did not want to jump in hastily and involve our country unnecessarily in war. Several members of my family could easily have been in the Pentagon on 9/11. I have walked those halls myself, and to me it was one of the sfest places I could imagine. I was literally under the World Trade Center when the planes hit, my own eyes have burned from that smoke, my best friend’s office was totaled and I felt helpless when I saw the effects it had on her personality. I know about the war being in our backyard, of course I am scared, and of course I want the U.S. to fight against terrorism. So don’t make assumptions about “people like you”…because they may be just like you.
and for those of you who have not assumed that I am Concerned American–I am. Oddly enough, the voice of dissension was no longer allowed to post…that’s one way to win an argument, I guess. But not as much fun. ( ‘
October 30th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Al Gore (ex-Vice President and current Chairman of Generation Investment Management– a business for selling carbon credits he co-founded in London)
More about that here…
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-.....,+09:32+AM