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AP: 9/11 ‘Eid’ Means Anti-Muslim Attacks

From a highly concerned Associated Press:

US Muslims prep for Islamic holiday — around 9/11

By Rachel Zoll, AP Religion Writer
August 13, 2010

NEW YORK – The lunar calendar that Muslims follow for religious holidays is creating a potential for misunderstandings or worse in a year when American Muslims are already confronting a spike in assaults on their faith and protests against new mosques.

Eid al-Fitr, a joyous holiday marking the end of the holy month of Ramadan, this year falls around Sept. 11. Muslim leaders fear that their gatherings for prayer and festivities could be misinterpreted by those unfamiliar with Islam as a celebration of the 2001 terrorist strikes.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council, an advocacy group based in Los Angeles, is contacting law enforcement and the Justice Department civil rights division to alert them to the overlap.

Discover The Networks describes the Muslim Public Affairs Council as a “Los Angeles-based Muslim organization whose leadership defends extremist violence.” Indeed, their profile on the MPAC is a real eye-opener. 

The Islamic Circle of North America, which organizes Muslim Family Days at the Six Flags amusement park in several cities around Eid al-Fitr, this year planned nothing for Saturday, Sept. 11, because of the anniversary. A founder of Muslim Family Day, Tariq Amanullah, worked at the World Trade Center and was killed in the attacks.

Yes, ‘Muslim Family Days’ at Six Flags has been scheduled for September 12, instead. That is real sensitivity.

By the way, you can also read about the Islamic Circle of North America at Discover The Networks.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based civil rights group, is urging mosques to review the group’s security guidelines, including clearing brush where people could hide and installing surveillance cameras.

"The issue I can sense brewing on hate sites on the Internet is, `These Muslims are celebrating on September 11,’" said Ibrahim Hooper, national spokesman for CAIR. "It’s getting really scary out there."

Lest we forget, CAIR was an ‘unindicted co-conspirator’ in the Holy Land Foundation trial. Discover The Networks has more on their background.

And never mind that at every opportunity we have to hear them fret about an anti-Muslim backlash. But somehow this backlash never seems to materialize. Besides, if Muslims were so deathly afraid of a backlash they wouldn’t insist on building a Mosque within 600 feet of Ground Zero.

The exact date of Eid al-Fitr this year is not yet known. Muslims follow different authorities on moonsightings and astronomical calculations to decide when a holiday begins. In North America, the eid could fall on Thursday, Sept. 9, Friday, Sept. 10, or Saturday, Sept. 11

NASA really is right to try to reach out to these Islamic scientists. They could do wonders for our space program.

Most mosques usually intensify security around Ramadan because of the attention the month brings. This year, leaders have grown especially concerned about safety. In recent months, mosques around the country have faced protests and vandalism. The debate over a proposed mosque and Islamic center near ground zero has become a national issue.

We have seen precious few stories about either protests or vandalism. Which, one would think, such attacks would be shouted from the minarets by our watchdog media, if they actually occurred.

And never mind that the mosques in this country face nothing like the dangers they face in Muslim countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran. Or, indeed, anywhere there is even the slightest difference of opinion between the Muslim sects. — Which is to say, everywhere.

Yet well before these recent tensions, American Muslim leaders saw trouble ahead when they checked the calendar. Haroon Moghul, a New York Muslim leader who speaks regularly at mosques, said mosque leaders have been discussing Eid al-Fitr for months.

"When we realized that Ramadan would be ending around that time, a lot of people started sitting down together and saying, `How do we handle this in a way that’s appropriate?’" said Moghul, executive director of Maydan Institute, a communications consulting company.

Moghul said most New York Muslims likely won’t celebrate the way they normally do, and noted that a significant number lost relatives when the World Trade Center was destroyed.

Every year this number seems to grow larger and larger. Now it is “significant.”

Many imams in the city plan sermons on dealing with loss and grief.

"It’s a very painful day for everyone," Moghul said.

However, he and other American Muslim leaders don’t want to make so many changes that they appear to be giving in to those who reject any Muslim observance in the United States. Some critics have said Muslims should move the date of the eid.

"It’s like being offended that 9/11 and Christmas fall on the same day," said Safaa Zarzour, secretary general of the Islamic Society of North America, an Indiana-based communal group with tens of thousands of members. "There is something unsettling about that."

The Discover The Networks entry on the Islamic Society of North America is also quite revealing.

Yvonne Maffei, 35, of Des Plaines, Ill., a Chicago suburb, said she and her husband plan to stick with their usual Eid al-Fitr plan. They will attend morning prayers at their local mosque, go out for brunch then visit friends during the day

How courageous of them. Knowing that they could have their heads cut off at any minute, if they fall into the wrong hands.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, August 13th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

38 Responses to “AP: 9/11 ‘Eid’ Means Anti-Muslim Attacks”

  1. BannedbytheTaliban

    I challange everybody who encounters a Muslim on or near 9/11 to simply ask that person WHY 3000 people died that day. And keep asking them why until they figure it out. Never forget.

  2. oldpuppydixie

    We’re to bemoan the number of Muslims killed by their own 9/11 thugs? These are the “fine folk” who strap bombs on 8 year olds, yet we’re to believe them to be all broken up about some half-a$$ed imam who died on 9/11??

  3. Right of the People

    I don’t think it was a coincidence that 9/11/2001 happened on the day it did since Rama-lama-ding-dong is the same time every year give a goat’s whisker or two. I’d be interested in seeing an Islamic calendar of holidays from that year and what day this Eid al-Fitr fell on.

    I’ll never forget the images of these savages celebrating on that day when the towers fell. No matter what BS they put forth, they aren’t sorry and never will be otherwise they wouldn’t even be contemplating building that mosque at ground zero.

    This Tariq Amanullah dude must not have gotten the memo not to come to work that day. I guess his email account was probably clogged with spam from the kiddie porn sites he visited.

    • beautyofreason

      “No matter what BS they put forth, they aren’t sorry…otherwise they wouldn’t even be contemplating building that mosque at ground zero.”

      Not just that, the Muslims are breaking ground AND celebrating the opening of the mosque on September 11th. There will be a prayer room overlooking the fallen towers.

      The imam of the mosque has written a book. It is called “What’s Right with Islam Is What’s Right with America.” That’s what you see if you read it in English.

      In Muslim Malaysia, the book is titled “A Call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Da’wa in the Heart of America Post-9/11.”

      I think we are seeing a pattern here…

    • hushpuppy

      I remember that as well. Here’s a memory you might have also seen. We were watching CNN at the time. There was one of those female toxic cockroaches dressed all in black with a big smirk on her ugly puss. She was saying that her ‘son was rescued by a son of darkness’ (that’s us unbelievers), and began laughing as she said: Yes! my son — a son of light was rescued by a son of darkness and the son of darkness died rescuing him! I was incensed (to say the least). Here ‘no greater love hath a man that he lay down his life for another’…. and this b!tch thinks it’s funny.

      I wished I could have reached through the TV at that moment…

      Do you remember that?

      Just remember ‘jihad’ is one of the pillars of islam and they’d just as soon kill us as spit on us.

      There are two types of these toxic vermin:
      breeders (females)
      exploders (male)

  4. fallingpianos

    Yvonne Maffei, 35, of Des Plaines, Ill., a Chicago suburb, said she and her husband plan to stick with their usual Eid al-Fitr plan. They will attend morning prayers at their local mosque, go out for brunch then visit friends during the day…

    The Associated Press needs to update their style manual to reflect that the testimony of a woman is worth only half of that of a man, in accordance with Shariah law. Therefore, the reporter who wrote this story either needs to get another woman to corroborate Yvonne’s quote above, or they need to get that quote from her husband.

    We wouldn’t want there to be a “backlash” against the AP, now would we?

  5. Mithrandir

    So…..is this to demonstrate that they INDEED ARE muslims first and everything else second or third, as we have always known?

    ~As everyone else is to walk on eggshells around muslim sensitivities, they needn’t be chained down with it themselves.

    *If there is ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD in need of a inter-faith or multicultural education center it is not N.Y., (as they are at 100% capacity as it is) it is EVERY MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! Pick one and build a mosque / church / temple there! Why does the burden of being diverse continuously fall on western nations?

  6. canary

    The muslim mourning of 9/11 2nd time WTC bombed, is a different type. The muslims that died as martyrs to fulfill the quaran of allah. And since they blame the U.S., muslims only hate the U.S. more & more.

    AP has a lot of nerve making up that mosques are being vandalized. They failed to cover the violent muslim protests that followed after Israel finally fought back the Hamas bombing them. They fail to cover the violent rituals muslims do, like beating & scarring themselves that go on in the courts of mosques.

    6 Flags???? Since when is Ramadan about going to 6 flags. They are to be suffering, fasting, praying, giving to the poor. Just a good public place for muslims to kill children, which they do not hesitate doing.

  7. tranquil.night

    “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings. Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality. And here in the United States, Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America and that American Muslims have made extraordinary contributions to our country.” – Barack Hussein/Hoover Obama.

    Moose limb Americans have made great contributions to this evil country since its founding. Moose limbs have made great contributions to the world in areas of justice? tolerance? racial equality?

    W…T…F

    • BannedbytheTaliban

      “great diversity and racial equality”

      That very same racial equality that led the Muslims to sell black africans into slavery. Dingbat.

  8. hushpuppy

    …”The lunar calendar that Muslims follow for religious holidays is creating a potential for misunderstandings or worse in a year when American Muslims are already confronting a spike in assaults on their faith and protests against new mosques.”

    That’s just too damn bad…

    …”of the holy month of Ramadan…”

    I’m getting real tired of every talking head saying those words as if Ramadan was ‘holy’ to everybody… so they’ll ‘remind’ us every chance they get. Unblinking. Unthinking. Void of common sense, they’ll beep out that expression as if it were one word:theholymonthofRamadan.

    “The issue I can sense brewing on hate sites on the Internet is, `These Muslims are celebrating on September 11,’” said Ibrahim Hooper, national spokesman for CAIR. “It’s getting really scary out there.”

    Really? My heart bleeds cold borscht for you.

    • jobeth

      And Easter…the most Holy day of the Christian year is not even given “holiday” reconition let along called Holy.

      Most large employers won’t even mention it. I’m talking about 24/7/365 employers such as hospitials etc.

      Bet ramadan will be though.

  9. hushpuppy

    Obama Comes Out in Favor of Allowing Mosque Near Ground Zero

    I wonder how long it will be before he ‘comes out’ and admits he’s muslim?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....ound-zero/

    • Rusty Shackleford

      He is a truly conflicted man.

      Destroy the country or be true to his muslim faith

      Treat the Jews like crap or just everybody.

      Surround himself with socialists or go on golf junkets.

      Decisions, decisions.

      Again, I am forced to refer to a bit of wisdom bestowed by the great human, Charles M Schulz, creator of “Peanuts” and all those interesting characters.

      To review, Lucy is trying to convince Charlie Brown to run up and kick the football. She is very convincing but Charlie sticks to his guns. At one point, he says to Lucy exactly what I would love to say to the man-child’s face: “I don’t mind your dishonesty half as much as I mind your opinion of me; You must think I’m stupid”.

      Of course, ol’ Charlie does run up and tries to kick the football and Lucy yanks it away and he lands flat on his back and “kills himself” as he puts it.

      By enumerating the reasons why the US should allow the moosque to be built, he has yanked the football away again. That is, his left-wing propensity to sell the idea under “tolerance” of religions…when he himself has called those on the right “bitter clingers”. He might look once again into his never-opened history books to note the incredible amount of good that missionaries and churches have done in the past 150 years as compared to the human aide that Piss-lam has provided in the same period of time. But, no. He’s knowledge of history is that which is (incorrectly) in his own mind and what his cabinet (incorrectly) tells him.

      The religion of INTOLERANCE is, in fact, sleez-lam. More of a cult, actually.

      And nobody is saying they want to deny any camel-humpers their religion but have some class and don’t build your POS moosque where we can see it.

      On a side note, how many churches have been permitted to be built in Iran, Saudi-Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, etc etc?

      I think the people of Western descent have tolerated far more and learned far more and experienced far more than any group in human history. I’ll also say that the Western Europeans period of “conquest” were far far smaller than those of the Mongols, the Turks, and other groups known for their “tolerance”.

      Zooming forward to today, the war is on and it’s about moose-limb purity. Targets abound as I am one and so is most of the rest of the world. They want it all. When one looks at the history of the world (part one or two), one will find that the ink is still wet on the page as to human history.

      And with that in mind, all I care about is that my daughter and her kids can grow up and live as free a life in a nation as strong as it was when I was a kid. I do not want her to have to suffer at the hands of some minority group, the ruling class, that thinks it’s all about them; Who are not energized by service to the nation but instead are disgusted by the very idea and think they are the bosses and we are the chattel.

      Indeed, this fight may be just beginning.

    • jobeth

      Rusty, the only thing I would change is:

      “Destroy the country AND be true to his muslim faith”

      No conflict there for him, as he gets both.

    • wardmama4

      You have to read the whole thing (take blood pressure meds prior to) it is a piece of work.

      Obama’s Remarks about Ground Zero mosque…

      http://tinyurl.com/2epeu32

      Just after equating the necessity of OKing the mosque because of our First Amendment. I understand and am OK on that issue – but let us look deeper into the whole situation – First – would some Christian group be attempting the same thing, don’t think that all these Li(e)brals would be as damn fast at using the First Amendment to support their claim – and as in there is no open discussion as to where the money is coming from – and the imam in charge won’t condemn the 9/11 terrorists (won’t even call them terrorists) nor Hamas (he is also linked to the Free Gaza flotilla) – which means – that the people in charge of this ‘mosque’ are associated with terrorists much like the news organization reporting this mess. I don’t recall a single story about vandalism and/or protests at mosques and we all know AP (and others) would run such stories (about hate filled, intolerant white Christians) 24/7/365 – if they happened.

      Here however is my fav pull quote from the Obama remarks:

      And let us also remember who we’re fighting against, and what we’re fighting for. Our enemies respect no religious freedom. Al Qaeda’s cause is not Islam — it’s a gross distortion of Islam. These are not religious leaders — they’re terrorists who murder innocent men and women and children

      I cannot believe that Obama called them terrorists, except for the fact, it is ok to lie to infidels. He had to give himself an out to the American citizens – or his numbers would plummet to single digits overnight. Such a liar – such an empty suit and so very, very dangerous to the US and our Way of Life. It is just such a shame that so many Americans can not see, it is us, the American citizens he is lying to.

      God Help America.

    • Rusty Shackleford

      (Correction) jobeth, I was being facetious. If you’ll note, the “choices” aren’t either/or’s. He does both simultaneously of course and I simply made it look like he was choosing. To him a really hard choice is who to hate today. Since he hates himself first, most and always, whoever is in his sight first will get creamed, no doubt.

      In many ways his passive-aggressiveness is obvious to me. I ran into it a lot in my own family and the military. In many ways it’s worse than just getting the wrath of someone’s anger because it takes its time and then blindsides you some time later. And, sometimes you never know how it even happened.

      Like I’ve said many times, there’s a lot wrong with him. His anger is most obvious to me, as it was the first time I studied him on TV. His warped sense of “justice” dovetails into it as does his hatred of the US for being the source of all the evil in the world.

      He’s a pathetic antisocial miscreant. Would love to have seen his behavior as a child though it’s probably easy to assess that he was enabled every step of the way. Never told no. And, he probably did not know how to share, instead becoming the boss and telling others what to do.

      But, aside from his obvious flaws, he sucks as a president.

    • jobeth

      Rusty…I think you may have misdirected your comment to WM4. It may have been to me?

      “wm4 I was being facetious. If you’ll note, the “choices” aren’t either/or’s”

      I think I need to start all over…I’m not doing too well making myself clear lately…lol

      I too was being facetious. As I said to Pro…lately I have been in a really sarcastic mood with all that is going on with our little king. Didn’t mean to sound so serious…;-D

      “In many ways his passive-aggressiveness is obvious to me. “

      Ding!…ding!,,,,ding!…ding!

      Along with his humongous narcissism, he has a wonderful handle on P-A behavior! Honed to a fine point!

      I have also been struggling with a serious P-A in my familly and have done a LOT of reading up on it.
      I too saw the signs in deer leader and his honey but after doing so much reading on the subject I thought maybe I was seeing P-A behavior under every rock.

      Nice to know others see it too! Thanks for validating my observation there…lol

    • Rusty Shackleford

      D’OH!

      In the form of our illustrious leader….BHO, I will say this. I inherited a mouse that is faulty and scrolls poorly. It was the fault of the mouse and I am always having to clean up its messes.

      Now, if I were to reply to that same subject. “Yup, I got it wrong and it was directed at you jobeth. My apologies to wardmama4. In my defense I wasn’t properly awake when I posted that but that’s no excuse.”

  10. FCAFlyer

    Surprise! A Muslim (unfortunately in the WH) comes out in support of a mosque. Who’d a thunk it?

    • hushpuppy

      Yup. Barrack Insane Obama (Umm. Umm. Umm) Strikes again:

      “Tonight at White House Ramadan dinner, Obama set to betray Americans who are standing against the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero”

      Barack Obama praises US Muslims at Ramadan dinner and has praised Islam as an integral part of America, as he feted prominent US Muslims at an Iftar dinner marking the holy fasting month of Ramadan.

      “For well over a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection,” Mr Obama said, in remarks welcoming his guests in the State Dining Room of the White House.

      “Tonight’s Iftar is a ritual that is being carried out this Ramadan at kitchen tables and mosques in all 50 states,” he said.

      http://tinyurl.com/3x2fjjx

      Many Christians and Jews also celebrate the Feast of Trumpets / New Year, the Day of Atonement / Yom Kippur, and the festival a week later called the Feast of Tabernacles / Sukkot

      Wanna bet he doesn’t invite any highly placed Jewish leaders / Rabbis or ministers to a formal State Dinner in the State Room?

      Trivia question: Who was the first person Obama telephoned after being sworn in? English or Canadian P.M.? Nope. If you guessed the leader of the Palestians, you guessed right!

    • jobeth

      ”Tonight at White House Ramadan dinner…”

      This is the same man who said he didn’t think that WH support of the National Day of Prayer was appropriate…Of course that is mainly a Judeo/Christian day of prayer.

      But then, we have to make the Muslims “feel good about them selves”, and according to him, this is not a Christian country.

  11. eaglewingz08

    How could you trust a religion that has its moon deity as a male? Every recorded civilization that has a moon deity has the moon as a goddess not a god, except for Islam. Having denatured the moon by imposing masculinity where it was absent, islam then denatures women’s individuality itself by depriving them of any meaningful sense of freedom. The moon symbol is thus totally subverted by islam and its earthly representatives are held hostage to the transexualized Allah.

    • jobeth

      If you compare Judeo Christian faith against islam one of the things you will note is it is completely opposite from each other…Go down the list of the 10 commandments.

      Lying, Adultery (for men…temp wives etc), killing, No other gods but (Yahweh) God the father…Love for your neighbor..vs their hate filled view. Whether to accept or reject God is individual free choice and that person is either left alone or shown love to convert vs jihad on a constant basis with slavery and/or murder. Value of life vs promoting suicide and death. I could go on and on, but its all backwards.

      In my opinion I fully believe Satan is the “god” of islam.

      Making the moon male would make perfect sense. The whole “religion” is at odds with just about everything from any other culture in the world.

    • tranquil.night

      “Every recorded civilization that has a moon deity has the moon as a goddess”

      Close.

      The ancient Akkadian (Mesopotamian) moon god Sin of Ur actually shares much in common with Allah, including omniscienct might, “creator” status, and the crescent symbol.

      His daughter was Ishtar (not to be confused with the ’87 flick Rush off-handedly mentioned recently). She is an accurate depiction of Islamic misogynism: a cruel, diseased, prostitute. One of if not the most wretched deity of the entire ancient pantheon actually.

      Correct on sexuality too. Lucifer is a widely known pansexual, his cult a disgusting brood of pedophiles. They embrace man’s nature to go against nature to its most vile degree.

      Try as I might, nothing in the Quran has yet presented itself as a contribution to the grand philosophical debate in any traditional sense. It appears to be one murderous man’s drug-addled attempt to reconcile his lust for conquest and vengeance with Judeo-Christian and ancient Babylonian mythology. I agree with Jo, all literal and symbolic signs point to the hand of the Deceiver behind that pen.

    • jobeth

      ” Sin of Ur ”

      Interestingly appropriate the name Sin, since in English it means a moral evil. Life is certainly full of oddities.

    • TwilightZoned

      “In my opinion I fully believe Satan is the “god” of islam.”

      It’s interesting to note Islam does believe Christ existed,
      was born of a virgin, and performed miracles. However,
      they do NOT believe Christ was the son of God, nor that
      he was crucified for our sins. In this respect I see your
      point JB. Lucifer is the master of manipulation. Which also
      brings to mind the bible verse stating (paraphrasing): Many
      will try to enter the kingdom of heaven, but few will be allowed
      to enter. Seems this may apply to the soon to be largest
      religion (er ideology) based on their views of Christ.

    • tranquil.night

      Western mores can’t be reconciled with any sort of mysticism or “religious law.” We believe the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God are fundamentally rooted in Liberty, choice. It just is that simple.

      You can try to reconcile Judeo-Christian lore with pagan symbols and rituals. The Catholics did it in many ways when they evangelized.
      But the Old Testament is really about the Jews encountering these cultures over and over again, being seduced away from God and to the false-idols of barbarians, and then paying a heavy price for it. Over and over again. It’s the history of the Jews all throughout time.

      Islam recognizes Christ as a prophet (who are classified as infallible truth speakers), who’s words of truth and sacrifice are in direct philosophical dispute with the wisdom of the other prophets. Illogical conflicts like this don’t matter to thinkers and leaders of Islam – it’s a belief system that encourages lies for the sake of raw Satanic Might. Compliance is more important than freedom and independence.

    • jobeth

      TZ…in addition to your observations on Jesus, the muslims believe when the end-times arrive Jesus will deny the Christians to Allah. And that he is a lesser prophet to muhammad.

      Bukhari:V4B55N657 (Hadith)

      “Allah’s Messenger said, ‘Isa (Jesus), the son of Mariam, will shortly descend amongst you Muslims and will judge mankind by the law of the Qur’an. He will break the cross and kill the swine [Jews] and there will be no Jizyah tax taken from non-Muslims. Money will be so abundant no one will accept it. So you may recite this Holy Verse: “Isa (Jesus) was just a human being before his death. On the Day of Resurrection he (Jesus) will be a witness against the Christians.”

      http://prophetofdoom.net/Islam.....ians.Islam

      and

      Qur’an 5:77

      “Say (Muhammad): …”Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled.”

      http://prophetofdoom.net/Islam.....ians.Islam

      and (Wikipedia)

      “7. The return of Isa (Jesus):

      Authentic narrations indicate that one of the major signs is that Isa (Jesus) will descend from the heavens in Damascus. Jesus will be the one to lead the believers in battle against the forces of The Dajjal. It is said that he will “break the cross” (disassociate himself from Christianity) and “kill the pigs” (return to the eating habits of the Jews), thus establishing the True Religion of God, i.e. submitting to His Divine Will.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....t_Judgment

      This ‘religion’ is so convoluted no wonder the muslims are confused and must constantly chase their tails looking for a way to be ‘saved’.

      They are the poster child of the word anti-christ.

      I was reading in one place where it compares the “plots of Christians” inferior to the “plots of allah”

      If they are talking about evil plots or schemes…ok..they got us there.

  12. jobeth

    Remember when anyone who accused Obama of being a muslim were called wing-nuts and crazy?

    Its getting so obvious now that its hard NOT to make that assumption.

    I wonder just how long it will be now, before he comes out with the “I am converting to islam” announcement, all the while claiming it’s a new thing for him…that upon speaking with all the muslims in his circle he became convinced he should convert. Wait for it…it’s coming.

    I’m wondering how long it will be when the “birthers” will also be suddenly vindicated.

    • Liberals Demise

      “I’m wondering how long it will be when the “birthers” will also be suddenly vindicated.”

      As soon as we can get the government to take its’ Jackboot off
      the American jugular vein.

    • TwilightZoned

      “I wonder just how long it will be now, before he comes out with the “I am converting to islam” announcement, all the while claiming it’s a new thing for him…that upon speaking with all the muslims in his circle he became convinced he should convert. Wait for it…it’s coming.”

      Islam believes it is a sin to convert to any other religion, but it is also acceptable to trick infidels.
      So Barry was more than likely born a Muslim (Muslims believe everyone is Muslim at birth plus daddy being Muslim), claimed he’s Christian (in an attempt to trick infidels) and will eventually “come out”.

      Yep, you hit it on the nail head, JB.

  13. bill148

    FINALLY – ya’ll are starting to get it. mohammed united all the gods fighting the Judeo- Christian God – our God all through the Bible (Baal, Pasuzu, Isis, Osiriis, among others) into allah . They are legion – the evil that is fighting us for domination of our very existence. They are allowed – through the koran – to lie, cheat, manipulate in all ways, to infidels to further their fight.

    • tranquil.night

      Oh they’ve been seducing children with this story through video games, movies, and music now for years – that’s how I came to study it. Everyone probably has their gut feelings or the paths from which they’ve come to enlightenment. Trying to put the facts out there is an excersize in futility since the demons have so thoroughly manipulated the ignorant public to have ethnic compassion. Bush would never make this case against Islam, yet he was called the Great Satan himself as if he had.

      That’s because once again we see the inside forces behind this cult that took over the Democrats know exactly what they’re doing. The radical anti-war (anti-America), workers’, and environmentalist movements fuse what could be characterized as Western Islam.

  14. bill148

    Mohammed was the first anti – Christ. JB is correct: allah is satan.

  15. jobeth

    Until we reconize that satan AND his demons are involved in this thing called islam…we are going to continually befuddled in our fight against this evil “religion”.

    Thankfully, we of the Judeo/Christian faith understand our God is THE God and Creator…and WILL win out in the end.

    Its what keeps me less stressed than I would be otherwise. Still…satan can do a lot of damage until Christ returns. Not a comfortable time for us.

  16. Markos

    Mohamed was a Pedophile (married a six year old girl and raped her when she was 9 years old), blood thirsty (he used to kill all his adversaries cold blooded) war mongering (he led tens of wars killing thousands of people until he was poisoned by a Jewish woman after he exterminated all the members of her tribe), rapist (he raped Safia, a Jewish woman after killing her father and husband in front of her own eyes),lustful (he lusted after his adopted son’s wife (Zeinab Bent Gahsh)when he saw her at home alone while visiting his adopted son(Zeid Ebn Alharethah), he authored a surah (verse) to ban adoption and forced his adopted son to divorce his hot wife so that he can have sex with her). Hollywood doesn’t make movies about Mohamed because no one knows his real life and stories,ut because of the fear of repercussion from the angry Muslim mobs and their brutal terror tactics going after whoever mention their perverted prophet. Islam teaches its followers to kill, rape and steal non-Muslims. This is mentioned in the Quran and Hadith (sayings and doings of Mohammed) and not mere misunderstanding or misinterpretation of Islam. A real follower of Islam must do these things to be commended by Allah (Islam’s alleged God). There is no such a thing as making peace with Islam. Islam means submission (This is the true and real Arabic Translation of Islam as I know it very very well). The Muslims as a minority in the western world deliberately keep the war and killing verses of Quran hidden from the West. They conceal the real Arabic Islamic source books which contain all the real teachings of Islam. Islam Holy Book “The Quran” in the Repentance Surah Verse 29 states: “Fight who do not believe in ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK “CHRISTIANS AND JEWS” UNTIL THEY PAY THE JIZIAH (MONEY TO RANSOM THEMSELVES) WITH WILLING SUBMISSION, AND FEEL THEMSELVES SUBDUED. Muslims are commanded to fight and kill Christians and Jews according to the Quran. This verse was authored by Mohamed in his latter days when he had a huge army of gangsters and according to Islamic scholars the latter verses nullify the earlier verses of the Quran. The earlier verses of the Quran authored by Mohamed in Mecca were much milder towards Jews and Christians because Mohamed was outnumbered and didn’t have the army yet to go and kill and rape as he wished. No one in Muslim countries has freedom of religion. when a Muslim apostates (leaves Islam) to any other religion, he is threatened and can be killed and for sure is tortured and persecuted. How do we allow the spread of the religion of intolerance because of our tolerance, this is shear madness and stupidity or TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. Your’e making the case for Ann C’s kill & Convert argument.
    I’ve learned a lot on this thread …again..
    Amazing &Thank You.


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