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	<title>Comments on: AP: &#8216;Road Projects&#8217; Don&#8217;t Help Jobless</title>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-infrastructure-projects-dont-help-jobless#comment-170414</link>
		<dc:creator>BillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s never been about jobs, it&#039;s been about union payrolls.

Even if jobs were created, you don&#039;t add &lt;b&gt;union dues paying&lt;/b&gt; concrete workers, heavy equipment operators, etc. overnight, especially with various trades&#039; apprenticeship programs.

We have only just &lt;b&gt;begun&lt;/b&gt; to see the payoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s never been about jobs, it&#8217;s been about union payrolls.</p>
<p>Even if jobs were created, you don&#8217;t add <b>union dues paying</b> concrete workers, heavy equipment operators, etc. overnight, especially with various trades&#8217; apprenticeship programs.</p>
<p>We have only just <b>begun</b> to see the payoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: mr_bill</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-infrastructure-projects-dont-help-jobless#comment-170406</link>
		<dc:creator>mr_bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyday I see stories like this one, which are perfect I-told-you-so moments for those of us that knew these programs were a bad idea from the start. The problem is that these moments go unnoticed by mainstream medial outlets and are consequently unseen by the &#039;consumers&#039; of the mainstream version of &#039;news.&#039; Until more prople learn how to educate themselves and stop relying on the version of &#039;truth&#039; spoonfed to them by a liberal-compliant media, things can get no better, only worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyday I see stories like this one, which are perfect I-told-you-so moments for those of us that knew these programs were a bad idea from the start. The problem is that these moments go unnoticed by mainstream medial outlets and are consequently unseen by the &#8216;consumers&#8217; of the mainstream version of &#8216;news.&#8217; Until more prople learn how to educate themselves and stop relying on the version of &#8216;truth&#8217; spoonfed to them by a liberal-compliant media, things can get no better, only worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BINGO&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BINGO&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-infrastructure-projects-dont-help-jobless#comment-170356</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next they discover -- Money from one pocket to the other doesn&#039;t effect the total wealth you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next they discover &#8212; Money from one pocket to the other doesn&#8217;t effect the total wealth you have.</p>
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		<title>By: CSconservative</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-infrastructure-projects-dont-help-jobless#comment-170340</link>
		<dc:creator>CSconservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would like to know why this has failed?
Quite simply, most of these projects would have happened anyway. All this money did was help the states meet their budgetary shortfalls and gaps.
Secondly, the requirements to do government work for a beleaguered small business is not cost beneficial. You basically have to hire 1 person to do nothing but handle the paperwork for a government project. Then there are the added expense (especially for sub-contractors) to purchase bid, payment and performance bonds. Then there are a lot of these projects that are prevailing wage projects.. which means they tell you how much you have to pay your people. Then there is the required borrowing provisions which state, you must have availability to a $25,000.00 credit line. A lot of this gets waved if you are a minority contractor..(which was who they were really trying to help in the first place.)
Then you look at the company market in your area... Most road construction jobs in my area are done by one of 3 or 4 companies. Most of these companies do nothing but these types of jobs... so cutting into that market is a long shot at best. Not to mention most of them only experienced a little bit of a slow down during this time, so they didn&#039;t really have to lay anyone off... so all this does is assure the ones who have a job that they will be able to work more hours.. Because, did I mention.... these same companies aren&#039;t hiring either...
This was a bad idea to start with... This economy could have easily been fixed by making the Bush tax cuts permanent, vowing to not raise the taxes on all the small business ( LLC&#039;s, DBA&#039;s and Sub chapter S corps) who report their earnings on their personal tax filings, and by pledging not to attempt to pass cap and trade and socialized medicine.
As with the depression.... socialism has done nothing but prolong the recession. Which, by all accounts... may be what they wanted in the first place... After all, &quot;we can&#039;t let a good crisis go to waste!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would like to know why this has failed?<br />
Quite simply, most of these projects would have happened anyway. All this money did was help the states meet their budgetary shortfalls and gaps.<br />
Secondly, the requirements to do government work for a beleaguered small business is not cost beneficial. You basically have to hire 1 person to do nothing but handle the paperwork for a government project. Then there are the added expense (especially for sub-contractors) to purchase bid, payment and performance bonds. Then there are a lot of these projects that are prevailing wage projects.. which means they tell you how much you have to pay your people. Then there is the required borrowing provisions which state, you must have availability to a $25,000.00 credit line. A lot of this gets waved if you are a minority contractor..(which was who they were really trying to help in the first place.)<br />
Then you look at the company market in your area&#8230; Most road construction jobs in my area are done by one of 3 or 4 companies. Most of these companies do nothing but these types of jobs&#8230; so cutting into that market is a long shot at best. Not to mention most of them only experienced a little bit of a slow down during this time, so they didn&#8217;t really have to lay anyone off&#8230; so all this does is assure the ones who have a job that they will be able to work more hours.. Because, did I mention&#8230;. these same companies aren&#8217;t hiring either&#8230;<br />
This was a bad idea to start with&#8230; This economy could have easily been fixed by making the Bush tax cuts permanent, vowing to not raise the taxes on all the small business ( LLC&#8217;s, DBA&#8217;s and Sub chapter S corps) who report their earnings on their personal tax filings, and by pledging not to attempt to pass cap and trade and socialized medicine.<br />
As with the depression&#8230;. socialism has done nothing but prolong the recession. Which, by all accounts&#8230; may be what they wanted in the first place&#8230; After all, &#8220;we can&#8217;t let a good crisis go to waste!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-infrastructure-projects-dont-help-jobless#comment-170338</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obamy is paying off his criminal co-conspirators with $790 Billion of our money.

Not a dime is being spent for anything other than a political payoff.

Next to the cratering the world economy in 2008 (preceded of course by the Free Houses for Deadbeats Program), it&#039;s the biggest economic crime of all time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamy is paying off his criminal co-conspirators with $790 Billion of our money.</p>
<p>Not a dime is being spent for anything other than a political payoff.</p>
<p>Next to the cratering the world economy in 2008 (preceded of course by the Free Houses for Deadbeats Program), it&#8217;s the biggest economic crime of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: NoNeoCommies</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-infrastructure-projects-dont-help-jobless#comment-170335</link>
		<dc:creator>NoNeoCommies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are also spending money to shore up green businesses and their &#039;training&#039; programs will likely train people to work in &#039;green&#039; industry. They have to know that the efforts they are making are just window dressing and the economy will not be helped at all by them.
It&#039;s freezing and they are buying ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are also spending money to shore up green businesses and their &#8216;training&#8217; programs will likely train people to work in &#8216;green&#8217; industry. They have to know that the efforts they are making are just window dressing and the economy will not be helped at all by them.<br />
It&#8217;s freezing and they are buying ice.</p>
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