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AP: Killing Coal Plants Will Mean Higher Electric Bills

From the Associated Press:

Cleaner air could mean higher electric bills

By JONATHAN FAHEY | May 21, 2014

NEW YORK (AP) — Electricity prices are probably on their way up across much of the U.S. as coal-fired plants, the dominant source of cheap power, shut down in response to environmental regulations and economic forces.

There is no "probably" about it. But isn’t it funny how this is just now dawning on the AP. When they were cheering on the shutting down of the coal-fired plants, they never said a peep about what it would mean to our electric bills.

But now that they are all safely shut down, they report this. Why is that?

New and tighter pollution rules and tough competition from cleaner sources such as natural gas, wind and solar will lead to the closings of dozens of coal-burning plants across 20 states over the next three years. And many of those that stay open will need expensive retrofits… By 2020, [electricity] prices are expected to climb an additional 13 percent, a forecast that does not include the costs of coming environmental rules.

How are we going to run our electric cars?

The Obama administration, state governments and industry are struggling to balance this push for a cleaner environment with the need to keep the grid reliable and prevent prices from rocketing too much higher…

Which is why Obama and his minions are refusing to build the Keystone pipeline, refusing to issue drilling permits, refusing to let nuclear power plants be built, and are trying to kill fracking.

Lest we forget, back in January 2008, Obama promised that ‘under his cap and energy plan energy prices were necessarily going to skyrocket’. In fact, in the same interview with the editors of the San Francisco Chronicle, Obama also said: “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.” …

And here it is happening right before our eyes.

During the brutally cold and snowy winter that just ended, utilities in several states struggled to secure natural gas because so much was also needed to heat homes. Some utilities couldn’t run gas-fired plants at all, and power prices soared 1,000 percent in some regions…

Which made national headline everywhere. — Wait. No, it wasn’t reported at all. .

The Energy Department estimates coal plants with the output to supply 33 million homes will close by 2020.  "We haven’t operated at those low levels (of generation) for at least 30 years," says Clair Moeller [from the Midcontinent Independent System Operator, which coordinates much of the electric grid between Minnesota and Louisiana.]

To meet high demand this past winter, American Electric Power, which serves 5 million customers in 11 states, needed to run 89 percent of the coal plants it will soon have to shut down, says AEP CEO Nick Akins.

This raises concerns that the power system soon won’t have enough wiggle room to handle extreme weather, making blackouts more likely. "It’s a warning of what may be to come," Moeller says…

Who cares if people freeze to death? Who cares if they die of heat prostration? We have to clean the air for Obama’s donors.

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, May 22nd, 2014. Comments are currently closed.

6 Responses to “AP: Killing Coal Plants Will Mean Higher Electric Bills”

  1. GetBackJack says:

    Go ahead. I have wood stoves.

    • canary says:

      GetBackJack: ssshhhh. keep quiet about it. Dig a secret bunker to keep your wood in.

      A woman from Austin , who was a tree hugger and anti-hunter, purchased several acres of Hill Country land, near Lake Travis , Texas . There was a huge tree on one of the highest points in the tract.

      She wanted to view the natural splendor of her land, so she climbed the tree. As she neared the top, she encountered a spotted owl.

      It attacked her! In her haste to escape, the woman slid down the tree to the ground. The ensuing fall incurred several splinters of wood in her crotch.

      In considerable pain, she hurried to the nearest doctor, 35 minutes away. She told him she was an environmentalist and anti-hunter and how she came to receive all of the splinters.

      The doctor listened to her story with great patience. He then told her to go into the examining room and he would see if he could help. The impatient patient sat, and waited for three hours before the doctor reappeared.

      The angry woman demanded, “What took you so long?”

      He smiled and said, “Well, I had to get permits from US Environmental Protection Service, the Land Management Bureau, the Texas Parks and Wildlife, and Keep Texas Beautiful before I could remove “old-growth timber from a recreational area”. I’m sorry, but they turned me down.”

  2. canary says:


    Reply to:
    350 OTTAWA NW
    GRAND RAPIDS MI 49503-2341

    JOHN ENGLER, Governor
    INTERNET: http://www.deq.state.mi us
    RUSSELL J. HARDING, Director

    December 17, 1997


    Mr. Ryan DeVries
    2088 Dagget
    Pierson, MI 49339

    Dear Mr. DeVries:

    SUBJECT: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023-1 T11N, R10W, Sec. 20, Montcalm County

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department’s files show that no permits have been issued.

    Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301,. Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated. The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris dams and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all unauthorized activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the strewn channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 1998. Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request, or any further unauthorized activity on the site, may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action. We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.

    Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.


    David L. Price
    District Representative
    Land and Water Management Division


    cc: LWMD, Lansing
    Pierson Township
    Lieutenant Mary C. Sherzer, DNR LED




    David L. Price
    District Representative
    Land and Water Management Division
    Grand Rapids District Office
    State Office Bldg., 6th Floor
    350 Ottawa, N.W.
    Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2341

    Dear Mr. Price:

    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County

    Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response.

    First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan — I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood “debris” dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials “debris”. I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

    As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

    My first concern is — aren’t the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation — so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department’s dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names. If you want the dam stream “restored” to a dam free-flow condition — contact the dam beavers — but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter — being unable to read English) — be sure you read them their dam Miranda first.

    As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers — be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State — I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy — or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice!

    In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now. Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then. In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem; bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!)

    Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.


    Stephen L. Tvedten

    cc: PETA

    • captstubby says:

      Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

      Spock: Your use of language has altered since our arrival. It is currently laced with, shall we say, more colorful metaphors, “double dumbass on you” and so forth.
      Kirk: Oh, you mean the profanity?
      Spock: Yes.
      Kirk: Well that’s simply the way they talk here. Nobody pays any attention to you unless you swear every other word.

      Kirk: Spock, where the Hell’s the power you promised?
      Spock: One damn minute, Admiral.

      thanks canary, i have not thought of this in years until now.

  3. captstubby says:

    thanks canary,
    i enjoyed your dam post

  4. yadayada says:

    naturally the AP article says, “New and tighter pollution rules and tough competition from cleaner sources such as natural gas, wind and solar will lead to the closings of dozens of coal-burning plants across 20 states over the next three years. ”

    nowhere in the entire article can you find (or possibly infer) how “competition” from any other source is closing these coal plants. it is being forced upon us thru fascist wacko environmentalcase policies.

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