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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131190</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, 1st.......lets not be bothered with &quot;FACTS&quot;. While we are at it lets toss out little &#039;WHITE&quot; lies,too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, 1st&#8230;&#8230;.lets not be bothered with &#8220;FACTS&#8221;. While we are at it lets toss out little &#8216;WHITE&#8221; lies,too!</p>
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		<title>By: 1sttofight</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131183</link>
		<dc:creator>1sttofight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you just made it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you just made it up.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131181</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>library website not at the library</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>library website not at the library</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131178</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other sources ran that AP story.  Your International Herald Tribune is one of them.

I was at a library, used a newspaper database and it came up as a .pdf not a website.

Either way, it is a clear example, relatively easy to find that refutes the idea that the AP was not reporting doubts about locals claims during Bush&#039;s administration.

One has to wonder why anyone would just believe the claim rather than simply check it out for yourself unless you simply wanted to believe that AP was being unfair and didn&#039;t want to be bothered with the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other sources ran that AP story.  Your International Herald Tribune is one of them.</p>
<p>I was at a library, used a newspaper database and it came up as a .pdf not a website.</p>
<p>Either way, it is a clear example, relatively easy to find that refutes the idea that the AP was not reporting doubts about locals claims during Bush&#8217;s administration.</p>
<p>One has to wonder why anyone would just believe the claim rather than simply check it out for yourself unless you simply wanted to believe that AP was being unfair and didn&#8217;t want to be bothered with the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: GuppyNblue</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131110</link>
		<dc:creator>GuppyNblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That quote is from the International Herald Tribune concerning a NATO airstrike. 

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/18/news/Afghanistan.php

Again CK, please provide a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That quote is from the International Herald Tribune concerning a NATO airstrike. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/18/news/Afghanistan.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/ap.....nistan.php</a></p>
<p>Again CK, please provide a link.</p>
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		<title>By: 1sttofight</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131109</link>
		<dc:creator>1sttofight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a link to that article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a link to that article?</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131108</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with you if you read this and believed the idea that the AP has not questioned whether Afghan locals exaggerate civilian deaths?

Associated Press St. Louis Post - Dispatch 
St. Louis, Mo.: Mar 19, 2008. pg. A.11 

&quot;Insurgents and some Afghan civilians hostile to the presence of foreign troops sometimes exaggerate accounts of civilian deaths caused by international forces, or make up claims altogether. Independent verification of battlefield causalities is difficult because the areas are remote and dangerous for travel.&quot;

That took less than a minute to find, right at the top of the list.

Did you even try to see if it was an absurd allegation against the AP?

Why didn&#039;t you investigate? Did you just blindly believe it because you wanted to?

Can&#039;t you use a search engine?

Congrats to those of you who didn&#039;t swallow it and won&#039;t do so again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with you if you read this and believed the idea that the AP has not questioned whether Afghan locals exaggerate civilian deaths?</p>
<p>Associated Press St. Louis Post &#8211; Dispatch<br />
St. Louis, Mo.: Mar 19, 2008. pg. A.11 </p>
<p>&#8220;Insurgents and some Afghan civilians hostile to the presence of foreign troops sometimes exaggerate accounts of civilian deaths caused by international forces, or make up claims altogether. Independent verification of battlefield causalities is difficult because the areas are remote and dangerous for travel.&#8221;</p>
<p>That took less than a minute to find, right at the top of the list.</p>
<p>Did you even try to see if it was an absurd allegation against the AP?</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t you investigate? Did you just blindly believe it because you wanted to?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you use a search engine?</p>
<p>Congrats to those of you who didn&#8217;t swallow it and won&#8217;t do so again.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMG</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131027</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....&quot;I’m ready to start jihad against the Americans,.....&quot;

To this I say, &quot;Leap, froggy, leap!&quot;  

Strange how these very same people wishing to wage jihad against Americans are always &quot;civilians&quot; when they get their ass handed to them.

Kill &#039;em all, and let God sort &#039;em out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..&#8221;I’m ready to start jihad against the Americans,&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>To this I say, &#8220;Leap, froggy, leap!&#8221;  </p>
<p>Strange how these very same people wishing to wage jihad against Americans are always &#8220;civilians&#8221; when they get their ass handed to them.</p>
<p>Kill &#8216;em all, and let God sort &#8216;em out.</p>
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		<title>By: oldswimcoach</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131026</link>
		<dc:creator>oldswimcoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been there, this is not surprising that casualties are inflated.  We used to pay about $2,000 US for a death (don&#039;t know the current rate), a paltry sum from a US perspective, but roughly 3-5 years income for an average Afghan (assuming they have employment - and that&#039;s a BIG assumption!).

Another change that most will miss, the word &quot;militant&quot; is substituted for usual press label of &quot;Taliban.&quot;  The violent political stew in Afghanistan includes religious rivalries, tribal rivalries, ethnic rivalries, drug running, organized crime, blood feuds and general criminal activities.  There is Taliban, too, but a broad range of criminal and military like activities and attacks were getting labeled as &quot;Taliban&quot; attacks by the press for the ease of the press&#039; feeble ability to articulate a complex military/political situation, and to make the situation appear worse than it was.  

Also, from the western press coverage during Bush&#039;s tenure, one would think the country of Afghanistan was without problems except for our presence in the country, which causes the Taliban to justifiably attack our imperialist immoral troops.  The situation on the ground was just slightly different from the press portrayal (usually on the order of approximately 180 degrees!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been there, this is not surprising that casualties are inflated.  We used to pay about $2,000 US for a death (don&#8217;t know the current rate), a paltry sum from a US perspective, but roughly 3-5 years income for an average Afghan (assuming they have employment &#8211; and that&#8217;s a BIG assumption!).</p>
<p>Another change that most will miss, the word &#8220;militant&#8221; is substituted for usual press label of &#8220;Taliban.&#8221;  The violent political stew in Afghanistan includes religious rivalries, tribal rivalries, ethnic rivalries, drug running, organized crime, blood feuds and general criminal activities.  There is Taliban, too, but a broad range of criminal and military like activities and attacks were getting labeled as &#8220;Taliban&#8221; attacks by the press for the ease of the press&#8217; feeble ability to articulate a complex military/political situation, and to make the situation appear worse than it was.  </p>
<p>Also, from the western press coverage during Bush&#8217;s tenure, one would think the country of Afghanistan was without problems except for our presence in the country, which causes the Taliban to justifiably attack our imperialist immoral troops.  The situation on the ground was just slightly different from the press portrayal (usually on the order of approximately 180 degrees!)</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131024</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be very suspect about anything coming from the AP. Least of them being respect for our and other troops in the War against Terrorism. Since when does a traitor wrap itself in a flag of rightousness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be very suspect about anything coming from the AP. Least of them being respect for our and other troops in the War against Terrorism. Since when does a traitor wrap itself in a flag of rightousness?</p>
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		<title>By: Odie44</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-now-notices-afghans-lie-about-civilians#comment-131007</link>
		<dc:creator>Odie44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least our fine men and women , along with our brave allies are getting respect for the first time. 

Any political capital Bambi / Dems get is secondary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least our fine men and women , along with our brave allies are getting respect for the first time. </p>
<p>Any political capital Bambi / Dems get is secondary&#8230;</p>
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