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AP: Russians Really Won Space Race

From the always informative Associated Press:

Russia still blue over moon landing 40 years later

By Jim Heintz, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW – When Neil Armstrong stepped onto the surface of the moon, it was a first for the Soviet Union — the first time the U.S. had beaten the U.S.S.R in the space race. Forty years later, the memory of that loss of primacy still seems to sting the Russian soul.

When state TV channel Rossiya reported last week on the restoration of video footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the account gave a lot of attention to dubious conspiracy theories that the landing was faked.

"In the United States, more than anywhere else, they are sure of the believability of the steps on the moon," the report said, adding that Armstrong keeps a very low profile. "This also seems strange to many people."

For a dozen years before the July 20, 1969, moon landing, Moscow racked up an extraordinary array of superlatives. It was the first to send a craft into orbit, with the Sputnik satellite in 1957. The first human to go into outer space was Russian Yuri Gagarin in 1961. Moscow sent the woman into space, Valentina Tereshkova in 1963; and Alexei Leonov was the first person to venture outside a spacecraft into the endless cosmos, in 1965.

Russia even got to the moon first when the unmanned Luna 2 crashed in 1959. But the drama of the first human footprint on an extraterrestrial body eclipsed everything the Soviets had worked so hard to achieve.

"Beginning with the first flight with a primitive capsule, and then getting to the moon, it was a great achievement for humanity," Russian astronaut Sergei Krikalev said.

"Of course, we would have liked to see the first man on the moon be Soviet, Russian, but that’s life … Our own achievements were very many," he told Associated Press Television News.

In the 40 years since the Apollo 11 landing, the USSR and Russia, which inherited the Soviet legacy, shot ahead of the United States occasionally only to fall further behind

Of course sending men to the moon was a preposterous waste of money anyway, at least according to our media masters.

And never mind that so much of what the AP posits here is simply untrue.

Such as:

When Neil Armstrong stepped onto the surface of the moon, it was a first for the Soviet Union — the first time the U.S. had beaten the U.S.S.R in the space race

Before the moon landing the US had certainly racked up numerous other firsts. Including having sent its astronauts around the moon the year before.

But according to the AP that wasn’t an important enough first to mention. It certainly doesn’t rank with being the first nation to send a woman into space.

Forty years later, the memory of that loss of primacy still seems to sting the Russian soul.

Not to mention the AP’s soul.

If they have a soul.

This article was posted by Steve on Sunday, July 19th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

25 Responses to “AP: Russians Really Won Space Race”

  1. Liberals Demise says:

    I guess the ruskies really won the Cold War too, huh?
    While we are at it ………. they won WW II by themselves and the Betty Crocker cook off.
    Geez Louise!! Can we glorify the bastards of “NO” peoples rights and freedoms anymore?

    • wondersz1 says:

      Can we glorify the bastards of “NO” peoples rights and freedoms anymore?

      Cold war is over anyway and now US and Russia cooperate in peaceful space exploration. Does it matter a lot who was the first now as it did then? Now that both countries have their footprints on the Moon it doesn’t look so important.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      “Now that both countries have their foot prints on the moon ………..”

      Uh………the “ONLY” footprints on the moon are A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N footprints.
      Try to stay awake in CWPA 101 class next time, comrade!

    • wondersz1 says:

      2 Liberals Demise:
      the “ONLY” footprints on the moon are A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N footprints.

      Not as far as real facts are concerned. Other nations, including Russians have their footprints on the surface of the Moon.

      Try to stay awake in CWPA 101 class next time, comrade!

      As far as it goes, you seem to be fond of the subject.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Please share with the rest of us your facts to what you are saying because you are using your back pocket as your brain warehouse pal!

    • proreason says:

      Looks like wondersz1 won the race for empty space between between the ears.

    • Gladius et Scutum says:

      Wonderz1 – Welcome back: We thought you’d had a climbing accident in the Caucus.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      I’m waiting for the facts that any nation other than the U.S. left million $$ toys on the moon. C’mon………let us hear your facts of other footprints, wondersz1.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:


      wonderbread there is just another cage-rattler, sent by his or her handlers to try to upset us. They have no facts to back up their statement and by “footprints” I strongly suspect they mean that oter nations have put hardware on or near the Moon.

      This to me, does not constitute footprints, as in, people walking about.

      And wondersz1, you’re pretty much the garden variety liberal hack who thinks everything this nation does is bad and this nation is supposed to be all things to all people. While I agree some work can be done in many areas, like waking people up like you who don’t realize the government is currently taking you on a ride to poverty, I also feel that no apology is necessary for our space and moon programs. None.

      However, if you want to whine about it, feel free, whereupon all of your arguments will be shot down with a logical, straightforward rebuttal. Your emotional bias has already shown through in your posts so, it shouldn’t be too hard to dumbfound you.

      And, for the record, we here on this blog are as steadfast in our ideals as you are. Perhaps moreso. By coming here and throwing rocks, you solidify our resolve more than ever against people like you. Who knows, you might be a nice person. But in your mind, you cannot assess fact from fiction nor can you make a non-emotional decision. Just as well, since we really need more artists and sculptors and musicians and such. Hey, how much time have you spent weeping over MJ? Hope you’re feeling better soon.

  2. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Russia even got to the moon first when the unmanned Luna 2 crashed in 1959. But the drama of the first human footprint on an extraterrestrial body eclipsed everything the Soviets had worked so hard to achieve.

    Um, technically speaking, having your probe crash on the Moon is not a successful mission, or even anything of note. It is a failure.

    I dare say that if the same space race were going on today, our congress would sit back and let the soviets have it all. That is the flavor of their game now. Yet they would applaud it and Obama would take a fair amount of credit for his speeches that had inspired them to do it.

    Honestly, DC is hollywood for ugly people….and stupid too.

    AP…just ridiculous…just absolutely beyond the beyonds.

    In the many books I’ve read, the soviets had an interesting approach to the whole thing. And while they were doing their doggonedest to steal whatever technology they could….the fact that they got in space first was simple testimony to the ex-nazi scientists they had…who were all propulsion engineers. We got Von Braun because he figured out life under the US would be much better than in Soviet Russia…and he was right. But….our engineers, without the lion’s share of technical expertise, had to come up with 99% of our space program from scratch. And the russians themselves admitted there is no way they could’ve come up with a lunar lander in the 7 years it took the US to do it. They said they could orbit the Moon, and come back but there was no way they had the ability to design, build, test and prove a lunar lander in anything under 10 years or more.

    They also lost a lot more cosmonauts than the US did. One of the US’s prime goals was the preservation of the lives of the astronauts and something that stalled the program was the Apollo 1 fire, where several flaws were identified and a paradigm shift occurred. The whole capsule was basically redesigned and after Apollo 1, no astronaut lost his life in pursuit of the Moon.

    (I am not talking about Shuttle problems)

    And, as evidenced by the russian Buran program, which is viritually identical to our own space shuttle, their space program had effectively stalled out and is now dead.

    To say that the russians won is to say that sugar isn’t sweet; That water isn’t wet. From the beginning to the end, the US proved that we had the ability, the know-how, the expertise to approach a challenge in an area that had never been tried before…to face the unknown and make it known. To capitalize on our abilities and creativity, to pool every resource and come up with a way to do it.

    If anyone has any doubts, go to walmart, get the “Earth To The Moon” HBO miniseries and watch just one episode, “Spider”. Where they win the contract and build the Lunar Module. Granted it is melodrama but from that you can easily gain respect for the enormous task of creating something from absolutely nothing but raw materials, brain power and well…yes….money.

    I will never apologize for my nation getting to the Moon. Not to any other nation…nor to my fellow citizens. We did it…I’m proud we did it and there is no need to feel sorry for it. Ever.

    • Steve says:

      “They also lost a lot more cosmonauts than the US did.”

      And more than was ever reported by our watchdog media.

      (And certainly more than was reported by theirs.)

    • Colonel1961 says:

      My city has Virgil Grissom High, Ed White Middle and Roger Chaffee Elementary schools. Wonder if the Ruskies even admitted to half the deaths of their cosmonauts, let alone openly honored them? We also have Challenger Elementary and Columbia Middle.

      Of course, we hope that we add no more names…

  3. proreason says:

    “Moscow racked up an extraordinary array of superlatives”

    It’s in journalists’ blood. By they time they get out of indoctrination phase I (high school), they have been convinced that America is evil. By the time they get out of indoctrination phase II (college), they have been convinced that Socialism / Communism is the best economic / political system. By the time they get out of indoctrination phase III (the first few years in “journalism”), they have been convinced that every country in the world is superior to the US.

    If the soviets were as successful in space as they have been in brainwashing journalists and teachers, they would have colonized Pluto by now.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      I heard they do have villages set up on Uranus!

      Sorry ………. I couldn’t let it go by w/o it being said.

  4. GL0120 says:

    Let’s not forget the superlative of needing the U.S. to get it’s cosmonauts off it’s failing space station.

  5. jobeth says:

    Don’t forget that ol’ Hillary hit the “reset” button on the US/Russian relationship.

    That includes rewriting history to please our Russian comrades.

    The same as Obalmy’s “changes” with our way of life to compliment our communist comrades

    Shall we go on…no need to…you all get it.
    (but for the lurking lefties…PAY ATTENTION)

  6. RightWinger says:

    First Spacecraft to visit Mercury – US – Mariner 10 – 1973
    First Spacecraft to visit Venus – US – Mariner 2 – 1962
    First Spacecraft to land on Venus – USSR – Venera 7 -1970
    First Spacecraft to visit Mars – US – Mariner 4 – 1965
    First Spacecraft to visit Jupiter – US – Pioneer 10 – 1973
    First Spacecraft to visit Uranus – US – Voyager 2 – 1986
    First Spacecraft to visit Neptune – US – Voyager 2 – 1989
    First Spacecraft to visit Pluto & Kuipier Belt -US – New Horizinons – Est 2015

    Yeah, the Russians really have been kicking our ass the past 40+ years. It would have been nice to see the AP comment on how many unmanned spacecraft they have lost in crashes over the past 40 years. Well I guess if it was the US space program, they would have brought it up.

    • Colonel1961 says:

      Thanks, RightWinger, for the fine list. May I add: Hubble, Mars Exploration Rovers, and Deep Impact – three other incredible ‘firsts’ that the AP just has to ignore…

  7. canary says:

    adding that Armstrong keeps a very low profile. “This also seems strange to many people.”

    this is not so, but could anyone blame him with the way the media is. Not all have Obama’s addiction for attention, roots from his first career chooses as an international student at Occidental to go into theater and become a poet and writer like his Hawaii communist writing mentor, Frank Marshall Davis. Inspite of Frank telling Obama his grandmother should be afraid to ride the bus after a black man took her money, Obama never forgave her.

    Obama’s grandparent’s also voted for a Republican president that angered his mother.

    • catie says:

      Canary, Armstrong does keep a low profile but not good old Buzz. He punched a clown in the nose a few years ago who said the moon landing was staged. Gotta love him.

    • Colonel1961 says:

      Good ol’ Buzz was quite the partier – major league drinker, et al., but what the heck…

  8. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    How would the Soviets have handled an Apollo 13 incident? Despite the great challenges to Houston Control and the Astronauts, I think that whole drama was NASA’s greatest example of a can do attitude and great resourcefulness.

  9. wirenut says:

    Houston…..The Eagle has Landed…..One small step for man…. One giant leap for mankind…. Even in our total success we remained humble. The eyes of the whole world were watching and waiting on that grainy black and white image. I’ve always been proud to be a part of this blessed Nation, but I soar when I remember those two golden moments. God bless those that made it happen.

  10. Reality Bytes says:

    Let’s not forget Kruschev’s claim that the Russians invented Rock n Roll, which is total lie. The Jews did.

    SG – I believe there was a last ditch attempt by the Russians to get men to the moon before the US – in orbit I believe and that it ended with the crew being lost. I’ll have to look for that. Let me know if you find anything of it.

  11. GTBurns says:

    Now Obama wants to scrap the new MOON program to concentrate on climate change. Because he is having tantrums after the Scott Brown victory. he needs to get his agenda infested in whateer he can touch before the DEMS lose congress.

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