I can understand your mood. Despite all the things Obama said, his voting record, his past and current associations with questionable people it amazed me how many votes he gathered. There’s no doubt in my mind the public as a whole saw McCain as nothing but an extension of George W. and didn’t want that. They wanted ‘change they could believe in’ and that’s what they’ll get. But in the end it won’t be what they wanted. Unfortunately when the promises of change don’t happen quickly enough the democratic spin machine will say that its’ taking longer than expected to undo the damage from the previous administration. But take heart, even at the height of communism there were some who woke up and saw it for what it really was. They in turn renounced communism and become the biggest most vocal opponents of that system. The question now remains, how long will it take for some of these followers to see that their emperor has no clothes? Although I am very disappointed to see many former high ranking retired military personnel joining Obama’s team. But when I look and see who they are I remember that when I was in the service I didn’t like them then either. I hate to say this but liberalism and political correctness has entered the military and become firmly entrenched. My one consolation is that when I retired my discharge papers were signed by George W. and not Al Gore.

Thanks for those well-stated thoughts. As your can see, I haven’t been feeling very positive about the state of affairs since late summer.

people follow their leaders.

Look at this country’s leaders…..Obamy, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Franks, Kennedy

I would never recommend treating other individuals with anything less than honor and integrity…..but why would anyone feel like we owe honor and integrity to the government?. That compact started to go under with Nixon, approached the cliff with Clinton, and now it has gone over the cliff.

The government wlllfully and without your knowledge instigated the credit crisis (via CRP lending to unqualified buyers), a crisis which some here are downplaying, but which is extremely serious by any measure. The Obamy campaign misrepresented every aspect of his life and every aspect of his “policies”. The campaign accused one of America’s greatest heroes of being a racist, and vilified a decent woman with 5 children who has served her state with integrity. The campaign of the president-elect participated in voter fraud and donor fraud on a massive scale. During the campaign, the stock market and oil markets were manifulated by campaign allies (the SEC is currently investigating. Have you heard about it?) and that has driven millions of people out of work and ruined the retirement of millions of other people. The sum total of the hit to the country is now $20 trillion or more (over a net worth of about $100 trillion). Even if the country comes out of the crisis, the accumulated new debt for future generations is approaching 50% of the annual national income. Every solution being seriously considered is a Socialistic solution. Free market solutions are ignored.

The values encouraged by the new government are sloth, entitlement, racial preference and irresponsibility. The behavioural examples that have been set are to punish and destroy those who disagree with your views by any means available. The goal is equal outcome, not equal opportunity (except for the elite, who are doing just fine, thanks.) We see evidence of and hear further talk of limiting free speech, limiting gun rights, limiting religious expression and of forcing young people into involuntary “service” to their country so that they can be indoctrinated into acceptance of government control.

So why again should we think that conducting oneself with traditional values will be useful in this new regime of hope and change?

As I’ve said, the greatest enemy of this country is it’s own government.

Let’s see, we’ll probably see positive GDP growth on average for the entire year, 93.3% of Americans who want to work are working, 95% of mortgages are OK, gasoline is down to $1.60 a gallon, and it’s a great time to buy a house….things could be much worse, and may get that way if the govt keeps nationalizing the private sector.

That’s partly because we’re living in a generation where many have never experienced consequences for their actions. They don’t understand that it’s vanity that leads to disgrace and selfishness that ultimately leads to loneliness. Life presents challenges from the moment we’re born and the living eagerly accept that.

I’m not just being a blowhard. I’ve suffered the lose of what little family I had to the low ground and personally understand that there’s no reward in the end. You’re right, (and sorry for the personal drama) it is the fear of these natural and inevitable challenges that lead so many timid little feeble f*cks to their mindless whining ways.

I’m not kidding.

Look at what is going on in Minnesota. This stuff is SANCTIONED by the President Elect of the United States.

Criminals are running the country. They LOVED Clinton. They want more.

Bush is one of the most honorable men to ever serve his country. Too honorable to even defend himself. Look what they did to him.

Look at what they did to Sarah Palin. All that woman has ever done is raise a family and do her best for Alaska. EVERY leader of the Democratic party is a scumbag compared to her. Obamy – Chicago thug, drugs, voter fraud, inveterate liar, bribe taker, etc., etc.. Clinton – enough said. Biden – duplicitous liar, bribe taker, plagarist. Barney Franks – pimp, liar, scoundrel. John Kerry – traitor, liar, braggart. Harry Reid – Bribe taker, liar, scoundrel. Kennedy – murderer, serial DWI, alchoholic. and on and on. Republicans, frankly, are only better in contrast.

Guppy, I wouldn’t have said it 6 months ago, but that strategy is now inoperative.

Why should you be honest when the government has destroyed the economy to buy votes, the politicians lie cheat and steal in plain sight, and everyone else, including gazillionaires are running around trying to grab government hand-outs and threatening suicide-this and suicide-that if it doesn’t happen (which you will end up paying for).

You are in Bizarro-world now. All the values you were taught are upside down.

Under these conditions, being honest is being a sucker.

I think I’ll email him a link to the thread about how Ford dealt with New York in 75.

I think this is happening/will happen on a larger scale for the U.S. and that tax revenues are going to fall by huge amounts in Obamy-world.

Just one other little factor in the overall economic catastophe brought courtesy of your favorite government “servants”.