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Avg Jobless Length Longest On Record

From a slack-jawed Associated Press:

(Photo AP chose to accompany its article.)

Fewer states add jobs as recovery sputters along

By Daniel Wagner, AP Business Writer

December 18, 2009

WASHINGTON – In a reversal of earlier gains, more states lost jobs than added them in November, signaling that hiring is occurring only sporadically around the country.

Unemployment rates dropped in 36 states and the District of Columbia, but that trend appeared to reflect more people leaving the work force. Unemployed people who stop looking for jobs out of frustration aren’t counted in the labor force.

Friday’s Labor Department report underscored that employers have yet to ramp up hiring, and many Americans can’t find work. The number of people jobless for at least six months rose last month to 5.9 million, according to a separate report released earlier this month. And the average length of unemployment exceeds 28 weeks, the longest on records dating to 1948.

In all, 19 states added jobs in November, down from 28 in October. Thirty-one states and the District of Columbia suffered a net loss of jobs…

The figures for jobs and unemployment don’t always match because they come from separate reports. The unemployment rate is calculated from a survey of households. The jobs count reflects a survey of businesses.

Similarly, unemployment rates can drop when people give up looking for jobs. Of the seven states with statistically important drops in unemployment rates, five saw their labor forces shrink. They were Connecticut, Kansas, Kentucky, New York and Pennsylvania

November’s jobs picture is bleaker than October’s, in part because last month’s gains were driven by a rise in temporary employment, economists said. Temporary hiring often is a sign that employers are gearing up to add full-time jobs.

But economists cautioned that October’s gains might not be sustainable. They were driven by temporary demand in the auto sector to replace inventories depleted by the Cash for Clunkers rebate program.

Still, the U.S. unemployment rate dropped to 10 percent November from 10.2 percent in October. It was the first unemployment decline since July. Economists called it a hopeful sign that the economy is on the mend, however slowly.

Or that Christmas is coming.

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, December 18th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

12 Responses to “Avg Jobless Length Longest On Record”

  1. proreason says:

    “Unemployed people who stop looking for jobs out of frustration aren’t counted in the labor force. ”

    The administration’s unemployment strategy is working as designed.

  2. GetBackJack says:

    in my email today was this …

    Merry Christmas! Attached is McGraw-Hill’s press release on construction (in)activity and what BO’s stimulus activities have accomplished in the shovel ready world.

    Unemployment in construction and engineering is 30%–these people don’t apply for unemployment insurance because they pick up odd jobs and may be working part-time.

    Construction union dues are not flowing into their coffers—rather they are hemorrhaging money because many of the benefits continue when a member is out of work.

    Merry Christmas, Barack Obama. Thanks for stockings full of lumps of coal!

    • proreason says:

      If under-employment was counted, we would have the true unemployment picture.

      It isn’t just people who are scrambling with part-time jobs.

      There are also people who have taken temp jobs that pay total comp much less than full-time jobs.

      Then there are people who have taken jobs that pay less that the person is qualified for ( i.e, engineers who had to take a job at Home Depot).

      Then there are people who now need to work because of the family situation but can’t find work. i.e., homemakers, retirees. They aren’t counted anywhere because they weren’t on the employment roles recently. They also can’t draw unemployment.

      Then there are people who were always in the underground economy, but were able to support themselves. Cash handymen, painters, many others, including people doing things that are illegal. Many of them are now just as unemployed as people who are officially counted.

      But all we hear about is the one “official” number (now at 10%), that is, in reality, at least 1/2 of what the actual number is.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Having been through the employment cycle a few times, and eventually winding up with a very nice job, I can make this observation: We are headed in the direction of Great Britain. Whether by accident or by design, or both. In Great Britain, to be “middle class” you have to make at least $100,000 a year. So in essence there really is no middle class. The service jobs are done by a HUGE contingent of foreign laborers, who come to the West to “be free” (which comes with its own set of ridiculousness) and accept dogpoop wages because it’s still a hell of a sight better than living with their oppressive governments. (interesting, eh?)

      But here in the US, thanks to NAFTA and a few other things, thanks mostly to the left, but the right does it too, wages continue to remain stagnant, while inflation goes up and in the interest of lower prices, manufacturers shift labor overseas. Yet, that sweater that cost $11 in 1999, costs $20 now and the consumer still pays for it. The real paradigm being that the textile maker pockets the profit, still. OK, so that’s the nature of business. But, you can’t make me believe that the sole intent of keeping labor costs down was to benefit the customer. People will still pay what the market will bear. Therefore, the analysts in the textile company do careful research and determine just how much they can soak you for a shirt where all the buttons fall off before you won’t pay for it anymore. THAT’s what keeps prices low.

      Add to that the allure of unionized labor where some schmoe who puts lugnuts on Chevrolets makes over 20 bucks an hour for it. Rather than having a company that promotes from within and offers incentives for education and self-improvement within the company, the union hogties them into paying for labor that intentionally hampers the free-market system.

      Unions helped destroy GB…and they are doing their thing here, too. I’m in a union but the attitude is that we have a tool for collective bargaining, rather than a weapon to shut the company down. The use of a union as a weapon is actually passe’, which is not to say it couldn’t have its purpose should management try to abuse employees ever again but the sad truth is that its original intent has been usurped in many industries causing much harm. Overall harm…rather than good.

      The obvious result is GM.

      Additionally, our undocumented foreign employees are everywhere, not just in California or Texas or Arizona anymore. They are in every single state and undermining the wage system. Liberals don’t seem to get that, or maybe they do since so many like to hire illegals to do work for them. (On the whole, liberals are a bunch of tightwads). And this illegal worker trend continues, though in Oklahoma, they have taken steps to fix it. I wish all states would.

      However the end game is that we will be in much worse shape than even Great Britain in just a few short years. We will be completely socialist and muslim. Yay.

  3. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    My kid sister works for an employment agency and tells me that many people are still out of work not because there are no jobs, but rather they don’t want to relocate to where the jobs are. Or they’re too proud to take a job that they feel is too menial even though it pays a decent wage. The jobs are out there. The question is how much will a person’s pride stand in the way of finding work?

    • Liberals Demise says:

      Correct-A-Mundo 12GR.
      I have been working (when I can get it) for Labor Ready getting $7.25 per hour because that is all that is out there right now. It hurts making minimum but it beats the poultry amount from unemployment. DingleBarry should come out and handle one of these shovel ready jobs for a day. Just so he knows first hand the harm he is doing to the economy. Grrrrrrrrrr……

  4. wirenut says:

    I’m in the same boat, had to leave my ego on the last beach. Ouch! Work is out there, I’ll do what I have to, Merry Christmas all. Part time worker, now. Full time Grandpa, always. Scrap’n by, but the kids won’t know it. Santa has many faces.

  5. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    My heart goes out to you guys for your situations but also my admiration. Because you’re not sitting down, drinking yourself blind, or wallowing in a pity party. You’re doing what you have to do even if the pay is less than you’d like. America needs more such people with such perseverance.

  6. proreason says:

    LD, wirenut, and others in the same boat.

    What you are experiencing is the lifelong ambition of Barack Obama.

    It’s his ambition for the entire country except for himself and his commissar cronies who must live like kings to rule us properly.

    He intends to flatten the country, and turn it into Cuba.

    Doctors, engineers, janitors, pimps. No difference. Equal outcomes. Anybody can be any one of them. Everybody is equally capable, so everybody gets equal chances to be brain surgeons, and for the same income as janitors.

    Ideally, everybody in the country will spend a few weeks of their lives as brain surgeons. It’s only fair.

    The difference between us and our fellow serfs in Detroit is that we are willing to swab the decks, and they would rather collect Obamy Bucks.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      The difference between us and the plague in Detroit is……….
      “We will swallow our pride but keep our dignity………..they be owed!”

    • proreason says:

      Well, after all, some of those people in Detroit had ancestors 7 and 8 generations ago who were enslaved by muslim slave traders and shipped to this country, where they were freed at the cost of 600,000 lives in the Civil War.

      And there are probably a few white people who had ancestors in the 36% of the country that allowed slavery, since about 10% of that 36% actually had slaves. So it stands to reason that if 3.6% of the white people in 1860 owned slaves, then a small percentage of white people today must have a slave-owning ancestor.

      Of course, you should probably eliminate from that percentage a lot of people who descend from Italian, German, Irish, Scottish, Chinese, Jewish, Japanese, and other nationalities who immigrated to the US after the Civil War, and who have largely married within their communities. So you are left with a very small percentage of white Americans who have any connection to pre-Civil War slavery at all.

      But that shouldn’t matter, because all of those people would have abused Black people if they had had the chance, right? It’s in our blood.

      (By the way, there are probably more white people than black people in the United States who had pre-Civil War ancestors who were slaves. And if you count slavery throughout history, virtually 100% of the population of the world had ancestors who were slaves at some point.)

    • Liberals Demise says:

      But prOoooo ……… only blacks can be slaves and all the rest be damned!

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