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Biden Remarks Much Worse Than A Gaffe

At first glance Mr. Biden’s remarks about an newly elected President Obama facing an inevitable international crisis may seem to have been just the latest in a long line of off-the-cuff gaffes.

But we are now told that Mr. Biden made such remarks twice.

According to an article by Brent Bozell, Joe Biden spoke about how foreign leaders would test Obama for the first time on Saturday, October 18th — in San Francisco:

Sen. Joe Biden told a fundraiser in San Francisco on Saturday, “Mark my words. Within the next, first six months of this administration, if we win, they’re going to — we’re going to face a major international challenge. Because they’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him.”

And then again on October 19th, in Seattle:

The next day he did it — again! This time in Seattle he declared, “Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking Remember I said it standing here, if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

(It was in the second incident that Mr. Biden went into fuller detail, speaking about the five or six possible scenarios, and how Mr. Obama’s popularity was sure to suffer.)

So, whatever else was going on, it is clear that Mr. Biden brought up this subject intentionally.

This gives further credence to the theory that Biden was responding directly to the two candidates’ transition teams having just been briefed on National Security threats.

The news of this briefing seems to have come first from Fox News, in an article published on October 19th.

So it highly likely that Mr. Biden had just gotten word of this briefing and, in typical fashion, he could not resist bragging about his latest insider knowledge.

But Mr. Biden’s remarks seem to have been more purposeful than that. For a sentence from the original Fox News article jumps out in hindsight:

Obama’s team has reportedly given special emphasis to not only being ready for national security threats but also being seen as being ready — as a message to anyone who would hope to take advantage of the transition of power.

It is clear that Mr. Biden was trying to make this very point.

But because of his bumbling choice of words and subsequent bizarre ramblings about polls, Biden ended up conveying exactly the opposite message.

Indeed, his remarks seem dangerously perverse.

For instead of making it clear that Obama was ready for any upcoming threats, Biden made it seem that he was anything but. So much so that in short order we would all be wondering what we had done in electing such an inexperienced man.

This once again shows that Mr. Biden is worse than a loose-lipped gaffe machine.

He is a dangerous incompetent who cannot even handle getting out a very simple but nevertheless highly important message.

Which is probably why our watchdog media is avoiding this story so studiously.

After all, it is Governor Palin who is supposed to be the Vice Presidential candidate in over her head.

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008. Comments are currently closed.

22 Responses to “Biden Remarks Much Worse Than A Gaffe”

  1. brad says:

    This guy is just another arrogant big mouthed lawyer, and we certainly don’t need more lawyers. He thinks that he is so versed in the art of discourse, he can blurt out anything he wants then cover his tracks later.

    He also told the crowd Hillary Clinton was more qualified to be V.P. than him. He’s right, and she is more qualified to be president than Obama as well. I have never liked the Clintons, but the hatchet job they did on her is just proof of how they will cannibalize each other, and that justifies the means.

    Remember when McCain was the media darling because he was more moderate than Bush? –A true uniter the country (liberals) could count on? Now McCain is the biggest senile old racist the planet has to offer. And, the former Clinton guy Lawrence Summers got the job as President of Harvard, then he made a comment about women and how they are inferior in math, –yep, they called him a mysoginist, and canned him too. Like the old communists, what is moral is what is good for the state.
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×2986530

  2. Sir Corky says:

    Brad,

    Of course they turned on McCain. They got him the nomination because they knew he wouldn’t necessarily be popular with the far right crowd, and then they turned on him when it was in their best interest. And I’m in the same boat with you about the Clintons. I don’t like em, but they treated her like absolute garbage.

    Palin handled this wonderfully, saying that one of the Obama administration’s five crises would be Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement. I don’t know how I could love this woman any more.

  3. GetBackJack says:

    Reichstag

    People know what the Obama camp intends. The Pentagon reassigned the 3rd ID to NORTHCOM, at Peterson in Colorado Springs. The 4th ID is already deep into transitioning to Fort Carson at Colorado Springs.

    They intend to set loose the whirlwind. In other words … Red Dawn.

    Only with a sudden catastrophic all consuming national crisis can they get enough emergency powers into one man’s hands to remake America in Bill Ayers image and continue that power in a lock down.

  4. sheehanjihad says:

    GetBackJack…..think of the collusion with the terrorists, who will be tacitly allowed to set off another huge attack on the US so the democrat run government can declare martial law and set things in motion for the “new order”. A lot of people poo poo it off….thinking it cant happen. I hope to God it doesnt~! But, being more realistic than most, and not afraid of these weasle bastards, I will simply do my part to stop them. No, it may be like pissing in the wind, but picture over ten million people pissing on you….you will get a better picture of what is to come.

    They will try it….they owe their monetary masters for this purchased bid for power. They will achieve stunning victories too, in the beginning. But once everyone wakes up to what is happening, they will fight back. The socialists delude themselves into thinking it wont happen. I am positive it will. Americans for the most part have kept quiet while all this is taking place, hoping things would level off, people come to their senses, and get back to normal.

    Once they discover that we are being overtaken by people who wish to rule, rather than lead, it will come to a head, and it will be confronted, and dealt with. I am confident that Americans everywhere will realize the stake they have in this, and they will simply put a stop to this insanity. It’s unfortunate that it will have to come after the takeover, rather than before.

  5. wytammic says:

    Palin handled this wonderfully, saying that one of the Obama administration’s five crises would be Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement. I don’t know how I could love this woman any more.

    Sweeeeeet!! I hadn’t heard that. It brings a smile to my face.

  6. Bobbybankston says:

    Bidden is right (for once we agree). Here is a news broadcast from the day after Obama is elected:
    http://www.obamanews2009.com/
    Look who is celebrating, look who’s in the cabinet, look who’s out of work

  7. wytammic says:

    Wow! That is an awesome video Sound The Alarm put together on you tube. Thanks for sharing it. :) Let’s hope it never comes to that. Vote McCain / Palin!

  8. Liberals Demise says:

    I’d bet all I have in this world that Barrak is wishing he would have taken that “Loud mouth,Third World Chicken Pluckin’ Bitch” from Arkansas as a running mate now!! Joe points out some frightening things that are all too possible with an obama administration. Keep tellin’ like it is Joe!! What a mole!!

  9. DGA says:

    There is a point that is somehow lost in Biden’s statement, that I think is very telling in how B. hussein obama would actually handle such a crisis. Failing to actually find the transcript online, Biden said that it wouldn’t be readily apparent that they were doing the right thing when the attack, etc, happened, but to stick with them in the long run. Now, what was the apparent “right thing to do” when the 9/11 attacks happened? It didn’t matter, democrap or Republican, everyone agreed that the right thing to do was to go hunt down the source of the attackers and kill them, destroy their bases and destroy their infrastructures, which happened to include Iraq as well as Afganistan based operations. So, I ask, Biden is saying that the new commander in chief, obama, would handle this differently from general public opinion? I read this as a basic non action, sending the FBI over to wherever this attack seemed to be based from or some other lame ass attempt to appease the terrorists who may have commited this atrocity to come. He would not commit to war, Biden is saying, just send a couple of small teams to actually accomplish virtually nothing as far as keeping the US safe. Oh, I feel much safer now!

  10. GuppyNblue says:

    DGA
    Non-action after an attack is what I thought about too but not necessarily an attack on us. The first thing that came to my mind was the U.S. sitting out if Israel is attacked. Iran is proceeding with their threats and nuclear armament and it is believed that they will be capable before that six month time Biden gave.

    I just read Icarus’ post about the same thoughts.

  11. BillK says:

    Who do I contact to get in touch with RNC creative?

    Here’s another series of ads they blew:

    (Intro – cut in to two people chatting at a table – could be two women, a couple, etc. in mid-conversation)

    “I’m really worried about his pick for Vice President!”

    “I am too. It makes me worry about his judgement to be President. The quotes I read from the campaign appearances are troubling. It shows a lack of recognition of real issues.”

    “I know what you mean. It really makes me question things. I mean the VP’s a heartbeat away from the Presidency. It’s important the VP candidate is ready to step in at a moment’s notice.”

    (All this is meant to make the viewer think they’re expressing doubts about Palin.)

    Cut to:

    * Biden’s “crisis” comments
    * Biden’s FDR appearing on TV during the Great Depression comments
    * Any of numerous other wacky Biden comments

    If I can think of these things, are the people at the RNC or in the campaign busy sleeping in?

    Here’s another ad for free: Simply Biden’s comments from the primaries discussing how Obama is not ready to be President but how he would be proud to serve a McCain administration (from when there were rumors Biden might be picked as McCain’s VP.)

    Nope, we’ll never see that one, either.

  12. platypus says:

    I just have to say “thank you” to SG for this blog.

    The selection of articles plus his treatment of them (in his analysis) is both high class and thorough.

    Each of us is fortunate to be on the comment list.

  13. DEZ says:

    “I just have to say “thank you” to SG for this blog.”

    AMEN!

  14. Consilience says:

    This was passed to me via email and the writer is spot-on. The introductory paragraph came with the note.

    I know that many of you are sick and tired of all this political STUFF you read just one more thing between now and next month’s election, I urge you to read the following editorial. I don’t know who ‘Michael Masters’ is or what he does, but he does write cogently and well. A Google search turns up a Michael Masters who is a lawyer in Philadelphia, but I don’t believe that he is the author of this open letter. There is a ‘Michael C. Masters’ who lives in McLean, VA – I presume, but do not know for sure, that he is the author. However, he didn’t show up in any Google searches that I conducted, so I guess he isn’t ‘notorious’ enough to be found. I look at that as a good thing, however. On the surface, that suggests he is just another citizen like the rest of us and has no particular ax to grind. However, he HAS done his homework before writing this editorial.

    To Barack Hussein Obama,

    The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

    The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

    Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about ‘race’ contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America. While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.

    In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without ‘preparations’ at lower levels … Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin … while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered ‘I would’ to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without ‘any’ preconditions. While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.

    On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.

    You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately … not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgement about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.

    You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar … and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.

    In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a ‘Captain’ of a platoon in Afghanistan ‘the other day’ when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan. You lied in that debate.

    In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a ‘professor of Constitutional law’ when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you ‘taught a law class’ and never mentioned being a ‘professor of Constitutional law.’ You lied last spring.

    You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.

    You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn … and he was right …. corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food. You distorted the truth.

    You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America.

    You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. ; While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.

    You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn … who all helped cause the financial problems of today … and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.

    You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator … and Acorn has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them to America.

    During your campaign, you said: ‘typical white person.’ ‘They cling to their guns and religion.’ ‘They will say that I am black.’ You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America.

    You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America, but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax reductions. You have requested close to $1 billion in earmarks and several mill ion for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1 trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending ($100 billion for Iraq) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the greater concern is that you are deceiving America.

    The drain to America’s economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to America.

    Mr. Obama, you claimed that you ‘changed’ your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and 2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America.

    Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers union and college professors in the USA. They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classrooms. They disparage conservative s. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ….. not America. Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute 25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are deceiving America.

    Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else.

    Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.

    1. You lied to America. You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.

    2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your advertisements.

    3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.

    4. You divide America about race and about class.

    Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with ‘Country first.’ Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA as a Navy officer for 22 years. 26 years in the Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.

    Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby. You shou ld be ashamed.

    Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for honesty.

    Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire some one for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not. So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security …. and you are preying on their fears with empty promises … and because some (especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for ‘change’ like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you … your style has camouflaged your dishonesty …. but many of us see you for who you really are … and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.

    Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling dishonesty.

    Mr. Obama, America cannot trust that you will put America first in your decisions about the future.

    Mr. Obama, you are not the ‘change’ that America deserves. We cannot trust you.

    Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.

    Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves …. just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon … Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events … false witness … perjury … your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own …. but your lies are even worse.

    Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so that every person in America understands who you really are before election day.

    Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.

    Michael Master

    McLean, Virginia

  15. VMAN says:

    The dems are spinning so fast that I had to turn off my TV so I didn’t get blown away. Oh he meant anyone would be tested!!! YEA RIGHT. As to GetBackJack’s comment. YOU’RE SCARIN THE HELL OUT OF ME MAN!!!!!!! I sincerely hope you are wrong. No offense meant.

  16. Zeusshiloh says:

    I think all are of agreement that there will be a crisis. The question is, if it will be one instigated by the Obama/Biden team, or will it honestly come from outside the liberal circle? Whatever the response, the Obama/Biden team will use it to their optimum benefit.

    I just don’t see the Liberal mindset spending all this money, and having the Messiah voted out of office in 4 or 8 years.

  17. Consilience says:

    I hope the predictions about the use of US military forces in-country are wrong. I wouldn’t put it past Obama and the leftists. I still believe McCain/Palin will win—a stunner to be sure and also as surely to produce riots and civil unrest. My arsenal is ready—just in case. keep the faith!

  18. pinandpuller says:

    My brother-in-law, who is in the Air Force, just got moved from DC to Colorado Springs…hmmm.

    Has anyone read the Ashes series by William W Johnstone? It’s really good and apropos.

  19. sheehanjihad says:

    now I “hear” from numerous people who are in the National Guard that their facilities are quietly being “disarmed” by regular army. Pocatella Idaho field artillery base stripped of all of it’s weapons from cannon to small arms and ammo.

    As I said, I cant back it up like I wish I could, but funny, people I talk to just in passing each say they have “heard” something to that effect as well. Conspiracy theorists must be either hard at work, or we are being slowly back doored.

    As it stands right now, I cant buy into it. Not yet anyway, because it doesnt make sense. So unless some of the better data miners on this site can pull up something plausible, I will remain skeptical. I have to. Martial law by the 22nd of January?

    Colin Powell is reported to have said something like that, and blowhard Biden already alluded to it. Seems that if shit were going to hit the fan from an enemy, wouldnt we be best informed? If the enemy is from within, then silence?

    Ok you guys who do this so much better than I….find something that will bring some light to this rumor~!

    nah, it’s gotta be just rumors…started by conservatives to scare everyone, right? Right?

  20. Perdido says:

    B. Obama has not been elected yet. Any troop movements are at the orders of the present military order and the President, that would still be George Bush.

    Any disarming of the state’s Nat’l Guards will be occasioned with much noise and caterwauling by the local commanders. They don’t like being dis-empowered.

    The proposition that Nat’l Guard officers would stand by or be complicit in a Constitutional coup is an affront and an insult of the highest order.

    Get real.

  21. sheehanjihad says:

    Read it on the net, had to be sure. Getting real is by asking, by the way. Notice I was looking for confirmation, not your boot up my ass. But thank you for your input.

  22. Byrd says:

    What Biden is saying if Oboma is elected it could get more of our men killed because our enemys see him as weak.


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