He is going to pay $4000 more for a Nissan than the Chevrolet.

The Nissan was made in Tennessee.
He used to laugh at my old Nissan PU until he drove it several thousand miles while I was at Vanderbilt.

He will have nothing else now.

The alternative? We, the taxpayers, give them a bailout, which gives the UAW a lifeline to continue their thuggery and attempts to pass card check laws. One year goes by and the big three are back in the same boat, deeper in debt, as we the taxpayers would be as well, and are back knocking on congress’s doors again. All in all, an unending downward spiral that can never pull out.

That “living document” nonsense is just a bunch bs to undermine rule of law.
Not only would I give my life but I’d regret not having the opportunity to do so.

Still, one observation about these handouts I can’t help noticing: when the recipients are huge, gainful employers standing over thousands of solid blue collar jobs and asking for a small fraction of the kind of money we just forked over to Wall Street (none of their ceos is even considering a pay cut) look how hard they have to beg. These people are workers, after all, and they are their constituents! Look how much harder they have to beg and for how much less! Why is that, I wonder? Nobody asked these bank exec.s to draw up a plan for profitability; in fact, we were all warned that the whole financial sector was just going to keep circling the bowl. And they’ve delivered that. Why do the motor companies have to be reasonably responsible but not the bankers? I’m not saying they shouldn’t be, I’m just saying….

I don’t know about you guys, but the more time I spend on this site, the more I want a Mitsubishi.

It is not a “living document” it is set in stone and anyone who goes against it is guilty of Treason.

I will bet and give my life to prove it.

If the HNIC wants to send his thugs after me, they be best prepared to die, because I will not give up until the last round is fired and I can no longer heft my bayonet.

“I feel like the frog in a pot of water with the burner turned on low gradualy heating the water.”

well said

Guess what this is a list of….
1. The press
2. Politicians
3. Unions
4. Educators
5. Trial Lawyers

You have to admit, the Democrats and UAW play a pretty impressive shell game. Distract the masses with CEO pay and travel while 13.8+ billion dollars is headed to the UAW trust fund out of our tax dollars.

I have a feeling the point is getting very close, will the next terrorist attack be the tipping point?

I feel like the frog in a pot of water with the burner turned on low gradualy heating the water.

That’s a pretty broad indictment, Bill. But you don’t deal with it from the same perspective as do I. You must never have a need to hook on to a goose-neck trailer with a pick-up, and roll away with over 20,000 pounds in the daily quest of making a living. If you did, you’d find nothing available for the task short of a Dodge, a Chevy/GMC, or, my own preference, a Ford. All of them diesel-powered. And I’ve yet to have a ‘bad’ one.

As for the diesel options, the up-charge for opting for one over the standard gasoline motor is nearing $10,000. And diesel fuel, which is less costly to refine than gasoline, costs more at the pump thanks to our government. You see, the ‘greenies’ are a pretty influential bunch of enviro-nuts who wield a lot of clout with politicians. So much so that, even though diesel fuel is cheaper to make, even though diesel-powered vehicles are more fuel efficient than comparable gasoline units, and even though they deliver better performance, especially in in instances such as mine, the Nader-ites don’t like them, and “Big Brother” is going to make owning and operating one prohibitively costly. Why else, when regular gas here was costing $3.39 per gallon, was the cost of #2 diesel $4.59 per gallon? The cost to fuel my truck then was about $165 for every trip to the pump.

New diesel-powered vehicles have to meet the same EPA particulate standards as gasoline motors. Believe it or not, there are foreign and domestic vehicles equipped with diesel motors that cannot be sold here because they cannot make the cut. My youngest son owns a Volkswagen Jetta (diesel) that gets over 40 MPG, but VW can’t market it here any longer because the standards, even with their technology, are now out of reach. You want diesel powered cars? You’re going to have to move somewhere else to get them, or be like Al Gore–be able, and willing, to pay for it, and shift the burden of compliance on to someone else.

I’m not saying the ‘Big Three’ don’t share in the blame. But get the government and ‘big labor’ out of their bed. When speaking critically of inefficient operations, congress should be the LAST institution to open their collective mouths.

“No one’s going to give you a secure job, good pay and a pension for Christmas. Call your legislators and demand they pass the ‘Employee Free Choice Act’ to make it easier for you to join a Union.”

Here are some of their other “winners” which of course are doing just that – “winning” public support.

http://www.freechoiceact.org/i.....es/our_ads

The Big 3 are profitable where unions don’t exist. The Big 3 are important for national security. Auto manufacturing is critical to the national economy. It doesn’t take a math genius to see what should be done.

But it won’t be done…..because of politicians.

The politician’s solution……..point gun at someone else’s foot. Fire. Point gun at someone else’s other foot. Fire. Continue firing until feet are unavailable.

I’m afraid the “unavailable” part is closer than anyone thinks.

But why would the union members take a pay cut when if they get laid off they get 90% of their salary?

For most workers it’s a pretty reasonable calculus – either 50% of their salary or 0% of their salary.

If they get 90% of their salary for dropping in at the “job bank” once a week and otherwise get to hang out at home, why would they ever agree to a pay cut?

Thus for many of them getting laid off would actually be like winning the lottery…