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Carney: Telling Truth About O-Care Is Sabotage

From the Washington Examiner:

Jay Carney slams Georgia insurance chief as example of GOP Obamacare ‘sabotage’

By SUSAN CRABTREE | DECEMBER 5, 2013

White House spokesman Jay Carney held up the comments of a GOP insurance commissioner in Georgia as a "particularly egregious example" of Republicans who are trying to “sabotage” Obamacare.

During remarks to a Republican women’s club meeting, Georgia Insurance and Safety Fire Commissioner Ralph Hudgens last month compared a person with a pre-existing condition applying for health insurance to a reckless driver asking for auto-collision coverage.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Wednesday posted on its website the video of Hudgens’ comments to what appeared to be a small table of women.

“Just yesterday we saw a particularly egregious example of Republicans who, to this day, say they want to repeal the law and are trying to sabotage or undermine it and the protections provided by the Affordable Care Act,” Carney told reporters at his daily briefing Thursday.

“’It’s your fault,’ he said. So it’s your fault if you have asthma or cancer or some other pre-existing condition,” Carney said. “That kind of language is obviously wrong.”

Hudgens told the Journal-Constitution on Wednesday that he misspoke and used a “really poor analogy” in making those remarks. “It’s not the person’s fault they have a pre-existing condition,” he said.

Leaving aside whether bad behavior can lead to pre-existing conditions, for the sake of argument. (Smoking, ‘unprotected’ sex, etc.) Mr. Hudgens was still right to say that letting people to sign up for health insurance with a pre-condition is like letting someone sign up for car insurance after an accident.

Hudgen’s only mistake, if he even made a mistake, was using the term ‘reckless driver.’ Because the analogy is true even for the most careful of drivers.

But what does a state insurance commissioner know about insurance compared to a highly paid White House flack, anyway?

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, December 6th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

4 Responses to “Carney: Telling Truth About O-Care Is Sabotage”

  1. Astravogel

    I have in hand a cartoon titled, “A Day In The Life of Jay Carney” showing
    him at the press podium shoveling manure, in a room half full of it, and saying,
    “The President promised I’d find a pony under here somewhere…eventually.”

    That’s the most spot-on commentary I’ve ever seen. The cartoon is distributed
    by King Features, copyright 2013, and MRC.org/BMI There’s even flies…

  2. heykev

    Lying generally involves deliberate falsehood, told with the intent of misleading or causing someone to believe error.

    One wonders if Jay has ever heard of these:

    “It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one.”
    ― George Washington

    Things come apart so easily when they have been held together with lies.”
    ― Dorothy Allison, Bastard Out of Carolina

    “Anything is better than lies and deceit!”
    ― Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

    “No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar”
    ― Abraham Lincoln

    There are many passages rebuke the concept of lying.

    Proverbs 6:16-19 – God hates a lying tongue and a false witness who speaks lies.

    Exodus 20:16 – You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    Ephesians 4:25 – Putting away lying, let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor.

    1 Timothy 1:10 – Liars are listed among other sins that are contrary to sound doctrine.

    Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

    Proverbs 13:5 A righteous man hates lying: but a wicked man is loathsome, and comes to shame.

    Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

    But then again, Rules for Radicals says it’s OK as long as it get you closer towards your goal.

    • Petronius

      Jay Carney. What a disgraceful creature. A hired liar. How does the man live with such shame?

      The original strawmen were witnesses for hire, or professional perjurers, who in the 17th century and early 18th century stood outside the Old Bailey, where they advertised their services by means of tufts of straw tucked into their shoes.

      “Weaklings have to lie.” – Jean Paul Richter, Hesperus IV

      “Truth seldom is pleasant; it is almost invariably bitter.
      “A loss of courage may be the most striking feature which an outside observer notices in the West in our days….
      “Such a decline in courage is particularly noticeable among the ruling groups and the intellectual elite, causing an impression of loss of courage by the entire society. Of course, there are many courageous individuals, but they have no determining influence on public life.”
      - Alexander Solzhenitsyn, commencement address at Harvard Univ., 8 June 1978

      “Truth has had to be fought for every step of the way. Almost everything else dear to our hearts, on which our love and our trust in life depend, has had to be sacrificed to it. Greatness of soul is needed for it: the service of truth is the hardest service. For what does it mean to be honest in intellectual things? That one is stern towards one’s heart, that one despises “fine feelings,” that one makes every Yes and No a question of conscience!”
      - Nietzsche The Anti-Christ

  3. captstubby

    every time Jay Carney appears on TV,one can not help but associate him with…

    People Who Chose to Collaborate with the Nazis.
    It’s a simple question. “How could they have done it?” How could anyone have collaborated with the Nazis?

    [collected from various sources]

    Obama praises Nazi collaborator in statement celebrating Jewish Heritage Month
    This isn’t the first time that the White House has shown an ignorance of history that they’ve later had to correct. But the irony of praising the ex-patriot American poet Gertrude Stein in a proclamation celebrating Jewish Heritage Month is too rich to let go.
    Stein, whose collaborationist activities with the Vichy regime in France were widely criticized, is a hero to many leftists despite her Nazi sympathies, which are either downplayed or ignored by many.
    Stein publicly proclaimed her admiration for Hitler during the 1930s, proposing him for a Nobel Peace Prize. In the worst days of the Vichy regime, she volunteered to write an introduction to the speeches of General Phillipe Petain, the Nazi puppet leader who deported thousands of Jews, but who she regarded as a great French hero. She wanted his speeches translated into English, with her introduction, so that Americans would see the virtues of the Vichy regime. In that respect she was like other modernist writers, such as Ezra Pound and T.S. Eliot who proudly proclaimed their pro-Fascist ideology, but Stein’s support for Fascism was more bizarre because she was Jewish.

    The pursuit of Nazi collaborators refers to the post-World War II pursuit and apprehension of individuals who collaborated with the Nazi regime during the war.
    There were a number of motives for the apprehension of suspected collaborators, the main motives were revenge , to see those responsible face justice, and be categorised as criminals by a court of law (See Nuremberg Trials). Ensuring that criminal acts done were brought to light and placed on the official record, with evidence, so that they could never be disproven (some of the acts being so unthinkable that denial was plausible).. Other motives included were the fear that a “Nazi underground” of some kind existed, such as the ODESSA which could allow the enemy to somehow regroup for their proclaimed Fourth Reich.
    NOTE; i.e.Third Term.

    more Famous collaborators.

    1 William Joyce, nicknamed Lord Haw-Haw.
    Joyce was an American-born fascist politician who broadcast Nazi propaganda to Britain during the Second World War. He was hanged for treason by the British as a result of his wartime activities, even though he had renounced his British nationality and become a naturalised German. He went to the gallows unrepentant.
    2 Vidkun Quisling
    Vidkun Quisling, a Norwegian politician, seized power on 9 April 1940 in a Nazi-backed coup d’etat that led to “quisling” becoming synonymous with “traitor”. His regime contributed to the Final Solution. He was tried in Norway after the war and executed by firing squad on 24 October 1945
    3 James Carney
    (dates to be later filled in.)

    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Sunday, April 29, 2012,
    Gertrude Stein wrote her most famous works;, “Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.”
    Or, simply,“Collaborator is a collaborator is a collaborator is a collaborator.”




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