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Citizenship To Be Given During Boot Camp

From a cheering Associated Press:

Army, Navy add citizenship option to boot camp

By Susanne M. Schafer, Associated Press
April 21, 2011

FORT JACKSON, S.C. – Military service has long been one route to U.S. citizenship. Now the Army and Navy, in need of specialists and language skills in wartime, are speeding things up by allowing recruits to wrap up the process while they’re still in basic training.

It means a change in a no-visitors policy during boot camp, to allow federal immigration officers access to the recruits. But military officials say it’s a well-deserved break for volunteers who otherwise would have to slog through the bureaucratic ordeal during deployments around the world, often far from U.S. embassies.

What a laugh. The only reason this is being sped up is to get more votes for the Democrats quicker.

Also, how many people drop out of the military during or right after boot camp? Dan Rather comes to mind. Of course they will still retain their newly earned citizenship – and right to vote.

The military route is not a short-cut for foreigners abroad to get into the U.S. Only legal immigrants can apply, officials stress, and they must complete five years of honorable service or chance having their citizenship revoked.

"Chance" being the operative word here.

"The moment the Soviet Union broke up, I decided America was the place for me to be," said Spec. Rima Rusnac, 33, of the former Soviet republic of Moldova, just after taking her oath of citizenship recently. "In America, I can exercise my full potential and be free." …

As she spoke, eight other soldiers from countries including Iran, Haiti, Australia and Bangladesh celebrated and showed friends and family their new citizenship papers, just a day before they were all due to graduate from their 10 weeks of Army basic training.

Notice the counties highlighted by the AP.

Overall, the government granted citizenship to 11,146 service members in fiscal 2010. Between September 2001 and the first part of the 2011 fiscal year, some 68,974 members of all service branches have become citizens, the agency says

What a triumph for the Democrat party.

According to a U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command document outlining the new program that was made available to The Associated Press, the Army and the immigration service are cooperating "to expedite citizenship processing for all non-citizen Soldiers."

In much the same way that Vice President Al Gore ordered the INS to speed up the citizenship for applicants just in time for his election bid.

Lt. Col. Brian Hernandez, who is in charge of about 1,100 recruits at Fort Jackson during each training cycle, said he’s had 40 to 60 applicants for citizenship in every group he’s commanded over the past 18 months…

Hernandez, who said his own father was an immigrant from Argentina, is fluent in Portuguese and Spanish. He said he was sent to South America for two years as a representative of the U.S. Army and believes it is important for the military to have soldiers from many cultures


Hernandez said he’s had soldier-applicants from the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, Eastern Europe and Asia. "You are seeing it from across the globe," he said….

Again, note the countries that are highlighted. And you thought this was all about Hispanics?

"My goal is to fight terrorists," said Army Spec. Shaheen Bahamin, 19, who fled Iran with his family and spent the last 11 years in California after some time in Pakistan, where he picked up a particular dialect spoken in both Iran and Afghanistan….

Spec. Hamid Ennouri, a 26-year-old French-Moroccan fluent in Arabic, French, English and Spanish, is heading to training in logistics, using his languages to keep supplies flowing to troops stationed around the globe….

Pvt. Andrew Noble, of New Brunswick, Canada, said he applied for citizenship in order to become a pilot…

The AP is so subtle. They couldn’t find a single recruit from south of the border.

There probably aren’t any.

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, April 21st, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

9 Responses to “Citizenship To Be Given During Boot Camp”

  1. River0 says:

    This is exactly what the Romans did in the last years to stem the tide of barbarians.

  2. TerryAnne says:

    I have to say that, during basic and over the last 13 years, the few people in my basic flight and who I know are not natural US citizes are/were the ones that were the most proud and have stayed in. We had one girl from Nigeria who was not only a riot but beyond excited to be serving America; she even convinced her brother to join while we were there and he came in while we were leaving. I ran into the one from Panama not long ago, and she’s still in; same with one of the ones from Puerto Rico. We even had a guy from Ireland, of all places, but I have no idea where he’s at since our career fields took us in opposite directions. One of my best friends is French Canadian and is now approaching his 15 year mark, after having to do a crash course in English just to get in. I also have a friend originally from Afghanistan who, after obtaining citizenship in high school, went on to join the ROTC program at our university and served for several years and even went back in the reserves during the latest call-back (which, if you’ve met your contract obligations, you’re under no responsibilty to do…but he did it anyway). We can’t say all people who serve or want to serve in the US military and who are from different countries are not beneficial to the military or America. I know of many who have served, wanted to serve, and have done so proudly.

    What I don’t like is that the two year waiting period is obviously going to be eliminated across the board. I feel that people from Puerto Rico, Canada, and even some of our close European allies (England, specifically) should be given a faster track to citizenship if they want to serve. However, I don’t like the implication of this article – that it is because of needing linguists (after the military just kicked out how many gay linguists…?); if we’re going to fast track a bunch of people from questionable countries just for translators…we’ve got some serious problems. The two year window was in-place not for bureaucratic reasons; it was there to test the honesty of the person and to give them time to get adjusted. This, like most things the military seems hellbent on passing or rolling over and playing dead for the social engineers who want to screw with us, will likely spell disaster down the road.

  3. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Yes, conspicuous by its absence is the mention of any Mexicans who might want to become US citizens through military service. However, I believe this plan will backfire on the national socialists, as so many plans do. The real truth in the numbers will be hidden, of course, by the Make-Believe-Media, but the facts will show that although initial applications to the military will go up, word will quickly spread that it’s just as likely they’ll get rejected for the many and myriad of reasons that applicants get rejected on a regular basis. In fact, the AP makes it sound as though there are crises to fill certain career fields. Well, yes and no. When an applicant takes their ASVAB, or Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, they have to score well in certain areas in order to meet a career field requirement. In other words, most applicants aren’t equipped for complicated, technically involved jobs that the tech-schools are decidedly long and also involved. So many who think they can just go into the Navy and be a nuke specialist, may find that they didn’t score high enough and are more suited for, perhaps, motor pool duty.

    And, given the severe dumbing down of our education system, I would imagine the problem is even worse than it was when I enlisted in the late 70’s. So, many young people will leave the recruiter’s office disappointed and frustrated. This will create its own set of problems, as said applicant has never been told “no” before. Never been rejected; Never not received a trophy for just showing up. Then, there will be the lawsuits. Said applicant will be sought out by lawyers for the ACLU where they will attempt to prove that the applicant was discriminated against solely on the basis of their nationality, race, color, etc. When in fact the applicant scored in the low 30’s on every test the military gave them.

    Oh, yeah, this is gonna work out so well for everyone involved. There are a thousand “ifs” when seeking employment in the military, which have been relaxed to some degree but are still more stringent by far than, say, getting a job at TSA. This is why you see “Mall Cops” in this country where young men who always wanted to be a Marine (usually for all the wrong reasons) but because they are perpetually overweight and failed the physical, have low aptitude scores or have a list of misdemeanors a mile long, did not get accepted. Instead, they were also turned down by the state and local police and ended up buying a web belt and getting a job at the local mall with a radio and a flashlight and a uniform (of sorts).

    One thing the military does better than most other sectors of employment, is adapt. So the adaptations that will be made internally in order to satisfy the national socialists’ agenda will, naturally, undermine their desired outcome. That being to generate more national socialists. They need to be aware of who they’re bringing to the dance and that those who gain their citizenship through US military service will probably be ten times as likely to vote for a republican as a liberal, panty-waste flaming socialist. Why? Because they will be surrounded by those leaders and critical thinkers who they will choose to emulate and respect. So there’s really nothing to worry about here.

    • JohnMG says:

      I’ll respectfully disagree here, Rusty, although not entirely.

      Ask the relatives of the victims of Maj. Hassan from Ft. Hood just how well all that diversity worked out. And how about DADT now that it’s gone? No, the military is possibly the poorest place for a social experiment, especially an all-volunteer one.

      You’re hearing this from a VietNam vet so I know you’ll understand. It is a different time and different place, and the culture is nothing like when I served, and possibly for yourself as well. But the only effect it (the lowering of the requirements) can possibly have is to diminish the high standard which has worked quite well for a long time. You can’t make the poor man richer by pulling the rich man down. And you can’t make good US citizens by watering down that which makes a US citizen exceptional.

    • TerryAnne says:

      You’re very much correct in that! I joined the US Social Experiment Service, not the USAF.

      WIth that said, we can’t lambast all those who chose to leave their hellhole of a country to pursue a better life in our country by starting in our military. Let’s not let one bad seed spoil the entire bunch quite yet. I still hold lightly to that silver lining that MAJ Hassan was the exception from our social experimentation and not the norm.

      I just don’t want us rushing to judgement (as a nation) that all who come to serve should be automatically granted citizenship. It’s not a smart move.

      As for lowering standards, I was reading an article on American Thinker yesterday about the anti-bullying stuff being passed for Santa Fe schools. While I was reading it, I couldn’t help but think how this – if passed for all schools for America – will effectively wipe out the military in about 2 generations. These kids are going to grow up so weak and foo-foo that they’ll never be able to handle the military or ever consider joining in the first place. Such a sad state of affairs!!

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      John, your point is well-taken. Diversity for diversity’s sake is a bad idea…and gives bad results. I am reminded of Airman X, who was a Mexican national….enlisted in the USAF and had the crappiest attitude, poorest work performance and ultimately, simply disappeared one day. No one knew what happened to him and our higher-ups wouldn’t talk about it. So, though the mystery may not be too hard to figure out, Airman X was the exception in the 80’s rather than the rule when it came to Mexicans in the USAF who I served with.

      As regards muslims….I’m afraid that to me is an automatic disqualifier. Islam and the UCMJ are diametrically opposed. And by virtue of the fact that their religious leaders and the koran tell them it’s acceptable to lie to increase the power of islam, then right there, no muslim members should be allowed. It’s really that simple. I don’t care what the flaming statists want to call it but I would ask them, “Would you want a child molester working in your daycare center?” To which, the average statist will give the very politically correct answer, while simultaneously removing their child from said daycare center.

      So, you’re right. I was simply approaching it from, perhaps, an outdated point of view where kids of my time did what we were told, didn’t automatically feel persecuted when we were punished for doing something wrong, etc. Maybe the military will find its hands full with so many civil rights cases that that’s exactly what the national socialists intend. All I know is I’m glad I’m not in the military anymore. You’re absolutely correct that it is not the place for social experimentation.

      My original thought though, was that military members are largely more conservative than the general population, knowing that with hard work and good performance, comes reward and promotion….that is often a good start on the path of conservatism. With military members subscribing to that, more of them will find themselves voting for conservative candidates based on the fact that they know what it means to work for something. Yes, some people in the military get pushed along due to affirmative action but it eventually catches up with them; The peter principle being the biggest player there. But it wasn’t the norm when I was active duty.

      Of course, there is still the ridiculous socio-political structure in the military already and that’s hard enough to deal with, let alone throwing nationality into the mix. But as TerryAnne has said, most of the foreign nationals tend to do a great job and know what it’s like to be a part of something bigger than themselves. Mexicans….may not see it that way and may try to manipulate it as another lever to get more of what they want and turn it into an entitlement program. Hopefully not.

    • Right of the People says:

      This sounds even worse than the early 70’s when I was in. Vietnam was winding down, it was the beginning of the all volunteer army and they were desperate for warm bodies. The standards for getting in were very low. You only had to have all of your finger and toes and be breathing.

      Back then we had 20-30% of our battalion going to either English class or a class to get their GED or both. There was one particular individual who worked in the messhall who only worked on the weekends his shift was one because he went to English class in the morning then to get his GED in the afternoon.

      I think they shouldn’t be given full citizenship until after the first full enlistment period has been satisfied, any time before that and all you have to do is get a “general” discharge and disappear into mainstream America.

      Rusty, I’m with you, since mooselimbs can’t be trusted to tell the truth because the “holy” book their cult is run by says it’s okay to lie to a non-mooselimb. We’re living in curious, dangerous times and the old rules just don’t apply.

  4. Chase says:

    I hope a certain level of English proficiency is still required, and that there are not further accomodations like there have been in every other walk of life for particularly the Muslims who might be included, but also those others whose English skills are serious hurdles.

  5. Deserat says:

    My experience is that yes, the majority of those who are first generation serving are patriotic, hard-working and *very* appreciative of what our country and culture has to offer. However, with the citizenship comes quicker access to specific security clearances……and look what Private
    Bradley Manning did with that. While there may be some political overtones, I believe based on the fact they are translators (notice they didn’t mention any other skills), it is to speed the clearance process.

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