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Dems Making Fools Of Themselves On Iraq

From the Washington Times:

Party baffled by its own war plan?

By Christina Bellantoni

Published March 9, 2007

For all the fanfare surrounding the announcement of the House Democrats’ Iraq war plan, few members seem to understand the specifics in the bill or when it would actually bring troops home.

The confusion added a layer of comic relief to a tense debate between factions of the Democratic Party as groups held dueling press conferences yesterday.

Rep. Maxine Waters, California Democrat, of the Out of Iraq Caucus could hardly keep the details straight as she attempted to excoriate the plan proposed by her Democratic leaders.

"What they say is, if in fact there is no progress that we will pull out, if they can’t certify by October, by December, but if there is progress, if they are doing well, we will stay," she said. "This would eventually get us out perhaps by March. The latest we would get out I guess with another progress report, or certification, by August of 1980."

Come again?

"Wait — August ‘08," Rep. Jan Schakowsky, Illinois Democrat, quickly corrected her colleague.

"Oh, August ‘08," Mrs. Waters corrected herself. "That’s how confusing it is."

The back-and-forth caused reporters to stifle laughs but also illustrated how few members had a part in crafting the bill and highlighted how it was a working document up to the moment Democratic leaders held their press conference explaining it — 25 minutes later than planned.

After House Speaker Nancy Pelosi carefully detailed the Democrats’ suggested benchmarks and requirements for President Bush to ensure that U.S. troops are fully ready before being sent to Iraq, reporters peppered her with questions to try and get the point.

"I’m confused," one reporter told the speaker.

"OK, well, let’s try again," the California Democrat responded. "If the president cannot demonstrate that progress has been made in reaching the benchmarks which he, President Bush, has established by July 1 of 2007, we begin — the 180-day period of redeployment begins, to be finished in 180 days."

But, what happens between July 1 and Oct. 1? the scribe asked.

"If the president shows that progress is being made on July 1, say he can certify that, then we …"

"All he has to do is say progress is being made?" the perplexed reporter interrupted.

"Well, he has to certify and demonstrate that it has been. If he cannot — if he does that, that takes us to October 1, where we want to see the completion of those benchmarks. If that is not achieved, the 180 days begins."

Some in the room giggled.

Exasperated, she concluded: "No matter what, by March 2008, the redeployment begins."

Further adding to yesterday’s confusion, the total size of the spending bill was anyone’s guess. Surely it was upward of the "roughly $100 billion," most speculated, as Rep. John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, rattled off a few million here and there for veterans and as Democrats noted increased funding for Hurricane Katrina relief.

The Appropriations Committee could not even supply the price tag an hour after the Democratic press conference.

"It’s a work in progress," panel spokeswoman Kirstin Brost said.

Appropriations Chairman David R. Obey, Wisconsin Democrat, didn’t reveal the bill’s total, though he did detail some of the benchmarks for progress required of the Iraqi government. Those include having an oil revenue-sharing law and amending the Iraqi constitution to improve relations among Shi’ites, Sunnis and Kurds.

"If they meet those political benchmarks, then even in that case our troops must be out of a combat role by October — I mean by August of 19 — of 2007," he said.

Mrs. Pelosi chimed in, "2008," adding, "If they meet those benchmarks."

"I’m sorry, that’s right," Mr. Obey responded.

Other Democrats in the Out of Iraq Caucus were none too pleased with the plan, saying 2008 is not soon enough.

The proposal is "very, very complex" said Rep. Lloyd Doggett, Texas Democrat. "It has waivers, exceptions, ands, ifs, ors and buts, all of which appear to leave the determination over our future in Iraq exclusively in the hands of the decider or the misleader," he said, referring to Mr. Bush.

Rep. Lynn Woolsey, California Democrat, made the same 20th-century goof as Mr. Obey. She said the Out of Iraq Caucus plan would "fully fund a safe, orderly withdrawal of American troops and military contractors by Dec. 31, 19…"

Oops.

She caught herself, saying: "Not 19, 2007. I’m back in the olden days."

Mrs. Woolsey paused again, using the gaffe to reconsider: "Actually, we want our troops home with their families by Christmas."

Adding to the confusion is a competing Senate plan to revise the 2002 resolution that authorized the Iraq war and require troops to leave by March 31, 2008.

Still, that chamber’s leaders did a better job pleasing a diverse Democratic caucus, with Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin calling it a "strong step toward ending our involvement in this misguided war" and promising to push for Congress to use its "power of the purse" to end the war.

White House spokesman Dan Bartlett, onboard Air Force One as the president headed to Brazil yesterday, gave predictable criticism of the Democratic plan. But he also tried his comedy routine, saying communication with Capitol Hill Republicans has "required almost hour-by-hour communication" because "the Democrats’ position has changed by the hour."

Sheesh.

What a circus.

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11 Responses to “Dems Making Fools Of Themselves On Iraq”

  1. 1sttofight

    Heh, Heh, Heh,

    The dems are making the Republicans 2008 political ads for them.

  2. doingwhatican

    Democrat war plans? What war plans? The dems have surrender plans, but no war plans. The libs want us out before we can win.

  3. wardmama4

    I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. These morons actually got what they wanted - lunatic dem majority - and now they are so stupid and incapable that they are making a public spectacle of stupidity that actually makes President Bush look . . . well . . . smart and competent.

    This is going to be so much fun - push ole tubby poster boy for senility Rep John ‘redeploytoOkinawa’ Murtha (TRAITOR) to the fore and watch them makes true a**** of themselves (at least the party emblem is correct) right on up to Nov. 2008.

    Yes, 1st - the Repub candidate needs to just run the You Tube of these Keystone Kops - while showing a written and coherant list of his/her objectives for the next 4 years. It will be a landsllide win.

  4. wardmama4

    So someone remind me - what is important about March ‘08? BTW, I think this crap was to overshadow this little gem [sorry the link won't work] but dated Mar 5, 2007:

    No quick exit for peacekeepers in Kosovo Reuters - 1 hour, 25 minutes ago?

    Yes, a dem President can say ‘home by Christmas (1999)’ and in 2007 they are still there with nary a word about bringing them home. . . but in a time of War after an attack on American soil, they screed on and on about ‘redeploying’ and ‘bring the Troops’ home based on their own twisted and distorted lies and misrepresentations about how we got into the War and Iraq and . . .well simply because it is a Republican President. And they don’t want to have to clean up his mess (I guess that is why the deadline). Even though their despised President (Nixon) was left to finish and clean up the mess their Presidents Kennedy and Johson created (which was a 4000+/yr soldier death rate to a 600+/yr death rate [for two combat theaters]).

    But of course everything dems do must be judged not on the results, failures and deaths but rather on their ‘intentions’ and everything repubs do is inherently evil and wrong.

  5. 1sttofight

    Hell wardmaam4, they can’t even get the year right, don’t even try to pin them down to a certain month. ;)

  6. Voice of Reason

    My Grandma used to use a phrase aprapos here……

    “They are so screwed up they don’t know whether they are scratching their watch or winding their ass.”

    Insightful huh? God rest her soul.
    VoR

  7. sheehanjihad

    The dems are in a pickle….they got elected by the left, serving the left, and discovered that the silent majority isnt being so silent anymore. They cant vote to leave Iraq, nor de fund the troops, nor vote for the status quo, or even a workable timetable for withdrawal. This is what they get for pandering to lunatics….now they have to put up, or become the targets of the tinfoil brigade.

    I have zero sympathy for them, because they had no “plan”, they have no “new direction”…nor do they have any viable solutions to the country’s problems. In short…what they do have is the ability to have show trials, bicker amongst themselves, keep that all important “power” image alive…and all the while, they are as effective as a bag of tainted chicken. Oh, that can be effective…it stinks, and if you keep it long enough, it will make you sick. Yup, that’s the democrats alright….and they are making week old carp look pristine right about now.

  8. Voice of Reason

    Sure was a whole lot easier to piss and moan about what the Repubs were doing than to come up with a viable plan.

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer buch of wankers.
    VoR

  9. AmericanIPA

    VOR, I’m sure you’ve noticed that the dems whole plan is to complain about what is being done, not offer any solutions. They seem to think the solution to a problem is to give a speech or hold a press conference and say “we have a problem”. There’s too many sayers and not enough doers in Washington to suit me. Probably plenty of Dewar’s though.

    Republicans in Washington should be taking advantage of this embarassing display by simply talking about it. That is hard to do when the media for the most part wants to hide such things from the public when it comes from the left, but they could try. Every stupid word that comes out of Pelosi’s gob ought to be followed by “THIS is 3rd in line to the presidency”.

  10. Voice of Reason

    I would bet money all this is going into an archive somewhere and will begin to resurface in about a year. At least I hope it is….and if we aren’t savy enough or have balls enough to throw this back at them then we don’t deserve to run things.

  11. The Redneck

    They want us to lose, they’re just not sure how. They need to find a way to do it without the eyes of the world upon them–which means I think they’ll try to push another FAIR first.


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