SubscribeDems Cut And Run From Plans To Cut And Run
From a deeply saddened Associated Press:
Democratic Leaders Revamp Anti-War Plan
Wednesday February 28, 2007
By ANNE FLAHERTY
WASHINGTON — House Democratic leaders are developing an anti-war proposal that wouldn’t cut off money for U.S. troops in Iraq but would require President Bush to acknowledge problems with an overburdened military.
The plan could draw bipartisan support but is expected to be a tough sell to members who say they don’t think it goes far enough to assuage voters angered by the four-year conflict.
Bush “hasn’t to date done anything we’ve asked him to do, so why we would think he would do anything in the future is beyond me,” said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., one of a group of liberal Democrats pushing for an immediate end to the war.
Democratic protests to the war grew louder in January after they took control of Congress and Bush announced he planned to send 21,500 more troops to Iraq. Earlier this month, House Democrats pushed through a nonbinding resolution opposing the buildup.
Since then, Democrats have been trying to decide what to do next. Some worried that a plan by Rep. John Murtha to restrict funding for the war would go too far. Murtha, D-Pa., is extending his support to the revised proposal.
The tactic is more likely to embarrass Bush politically than force his hand on the war. He would have to sign repeated waivers for units and report to Congress those units with equipment shortfalls and other problems.
In the Senate, a group of senior Democrats wants to repeal the 2002 measure authorizing the war and write a new resolution restricting the mission and ordering troop withdrawals to begin by this summer. But Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said Iraq would have to wait until the Senate finishes work to improve homeland security.
“That would mean we would hold off the Iraq legislation for a matter of days, not weeks,” he said.
The House Democratic proposal brought a sharp response from Republicans today.
Rep. Adam Putnam, R-Fla., called the plan a “fig leaf” to distract the public from what he said was Democrats’ ultimate goal of cutting off funds for troops in combat.
“We support full funding for our troops who are in harms way — without strings attached,” said Putnam, R-Fla., after emerging from a closed-door conference meeting…
There will be some heads exploding in Mother Sheehan-land tonight.
Perhaps out Solons in the Congress discovered that the “slow bleed” strategy wasn’t as popular with the citizenry as they had imagined.
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February 28th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Yes, the lunatic fringe will be a cryin in their tofu. (I just wonder how ‘Mother’ Sheehan’s Troops Home Fast fast is going?).
I just love the irony of the lunatic activist fringe is getting the same treatment Conservatives (despite the left’s screedings that America is in peril of losing all rights at the hands of evil bushitlerburtonco) from their duly ‘elected’ Representatives. Say anything to get elected and then go about business as usual in DC.
At least with Conservatives, it’s been about spending and now with their painful loss under their belts - next time they just might re-think their positions.
With the Dems it was about losing another War and totally leaving the US vulnerable to the lunatic radical terrorists.
I knew as soon as Shrieker of the House Pelosi said that ‘talk of Impeachment’ was bad for business that the Dems were going to turn on those who voted them in. I just didn’t expect them to turn on each other.
Hopefully this means that Rep John Murtha (TRAITOR) and the real lunatics like Kucinich (man that hurts, someone from this state voted him in) will be marginalized to the point that people can once again say, Who’s that?
February 28th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Were falling and we cant get up! LOL Did anyone really think things were going to change in Washington except who’s getting the lobby money?
February 28th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
“An over burdened military…” When I first came to Germany we had two full Corps, each consisting of a full armored division, a full infantry division, a forward deployed brigade from a States based division, and a full up Armored Cavalry Regiment. That’s four full divisions, 2 ACRs, and two plused up brigades. We also had the SETAF PIB, and a forward deployed brigade of the 2d Armored Division deployed in the NORTHAG sector.
Sorry to be so windy, but what I’m trying to point out here is that there is NEVER, EVER a PEACE DIVIDEND. POS politicians love to call up this Peace Dividend BS everytime we win a war, then draw our military down. Within 5 years we’ve got another “war”, “police action” “incident” which we have to fight with a depleted force and new faces who’ve never seen “the elephant”.
So let us increase the size of our military, let the guys doing the fighting select what weapons they need rather than some retired general working for a contractor, and let us fight the war without restraints. In other words, let us WIN!
February 28th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
In other words, let us WIN! You have no idea just how many people think the same way you do Lurk…..it’s just that the media doesnt agree with you…and thus, the population will never ever ever ever get anything close to the true feelings of the MAJORITY of Americans. Only the puffed up self important bullshitters get that opportunity.
February 28th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
“….leaders are weighing a proposal that would attempt to embarrass Bush into abandoning his war strategy.”
Embarrass Bush? President Bush has never wavered and will continue to move forward, without regard to “legacy” or politics.
American’s don’t like the idea of the dems plan to ’slowly bleed the troops to death.’ The “surge” is beginning to work and the dems just can’t be caught on the wrong side of this issue once again; therefore, the “backing off”, “putting off the vote”.
Chasing one’s tail, perhaps?
February 28th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Could be me…but is this the “leadership” the democrats voted for? If so, they were lied to more than they accuse Bush of. The dems had better be on the lookout for something their followers can hang on to….something palpable….they didnt vote for a bunch of adult children trying to “diss” each other. Hmmm, maybe they did. democrats are horrible elected officials…non existent as leaders. Republicans are greedy money grubbing jerks…but at least they arent afraid to lead. This is war. We need leaders. Not fraternity pranks.
February 28th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
I honestly don’t know what to think about this. Sorry for a lousy contribution.
February 28th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
“The future’s uncertain. And the end is always near.”
February 28th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
Sure I do, SJ! I work with a bunch of them….unforturnately we’re all civilians who used to be warriors. Several of the actual fighters are more concerned about that next oak leaf, eagle or star. But there are still warriors left.. the young company grade officers, NCOs, and soldiers are strong….and J.D. Thurman has the Victory Corps. Hooah!
Now if the politicians would just let them do the job they’ve trained to do and we could keep the MSM a–holes from reporting everything in the negative, we might actually win this one.
I’m watching Anderson Cooper on CNN and he seemed to be talking positivily about the war. I try to avoid CNN as much as possible. Does Cooper lean more towards the right than most of those CNN types?
March 1st, 2007 at 2:00 am
I get sick of the Democrats always talking about how the opposition can be patriotic; dissenting voices are patriotic if and only if they have their own ideas as to how to win.
March 1st, 2007 at 3:45 pm
I find this fact very funny–the US-led forces in Iraq are not fighting a war. They’re conducting peacekeeping operations. Peacekeeping and counterinsurgency operations have occupied the American Army since 1636. How long did Reconstruction last after the Civil War? Was it eight or twelve years? Anyway, true pacifists should be supporting the peacekeeping effort in Iraq because it is delaying the next war.
Perhaps the Democratic majority in Congress and the news media are deliberately providing job security for our nation’s warriors.
Besides, winning the peace is hard because there’s no reliable yardstick to measure victories in peace.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 am
I keep missing stuff. I missed it when they changed the language so that “horrible” became “horrific” and when “America” became “the homeland” and I missed it when, all of a sudden, Congress got to intervene directly in military strategy and tactics. What part of the Constitution did I not read where it says the Commander in Chief has to get a permission slip everytime he wants to do something? I don’t recall any headlines from WWII that said anything like
“Congress Says Guadalcanal Marines ‘Overstretched’ ”
“Pilots’ Lives ‘Wasted’ in Midway Battle, says McCain”
“House says Japan First, not Germany, is Best Strategy ”
“Prez Squanders $$$s in Secret A -Bomb Boondoggle”
“Navy Breaks Secret Jap Code: NY Times Exclusive”
You get the idea. And when did poll numbers get to factor in military planning?
“Poll: 50% Americans ‘Not Sure’ about Okinawa Invasion Plan, 30% Think Invasion ‘Too High a Price’ for Security, 20% Ask ‘How to Spell “Okinawa”
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 am
Maybe we all need to pass along an email I sent to Ms Pelosi when Rep Murtha (TRAITOR) started this garbage. I told her that the Constitution, Article 2, Section 2 gives the President Commaner-In-Chief authority and not Congress. I said that the only thing Congress could do was not authorized funds. So either do that or stop trying to take power away from the President in direct violation of the Constitution.
Perhaps if more of us, sent her (and our elected Reps, which I also sent one too them, asking them not to vote for all this cut and run, non-binding resolution, etc garbage), then Ms Pelosi and our ‘elected’ Reps would get a grip on how the majority of America really feels and not what is reported in the skewed and crafted polls the media only uses in their biased reporting.