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Democrats Ditch Slaughter End Around

From The Hill:

Dems ditch ‘deem and pass’

By Roxana Tiron and Michael O’Brien – 03/20/10

Top Democrats confirmed Saturday that the House would hold separate votes on the Senate healthcare bill and the reconciliation bill, making fixes to it.

Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), one of the chief deputy whips, Rep. Melvin Watt (D-N.C.), and Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), all of whom said that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) won’t use the tactic of deem and pass for healthcare reform.

The move effectively kills the "deem and pass" strategy Democrats had been eyeing to make changes to the Senate bill through a rule on the bill, which at the same time would have deemed the original Senate healthcare bill to have passed the House.

The House appears set now to move toward an up-or-down vote on the Senate healthcare bill, as well as a separate, up-or-down vote on the series of changes to that bill. There will still be a vote on the rule, as there always is for a piece of legislation, though it will not package the two bills together.

Democrats moved toward separating the votes after several members, including Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.) and Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.), had said they could not support the procedural maneuver.

Cardoza confirmed the change in position by House leadership during a Rules Committee meeting Saturday afternoon.

"I want to thank the House leadership for indicating to a number of us that that’s what’s going to happen," he said…

Isn’t that gracious of the House leadership to tell its members what is going to happen?

This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, March 20th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

10 Responses to “Democrats Ditch Slaughter End Around”

  1. Liberals Demise says:

    Too bad they didn’t ditch the ‘Bitch of a Bill’ while they were at it.

  2. tranquil.night says:

    I’m pretty convinced now that the Slaughter Solution, scam as it is, was only part of a bigger headfake that was intended to frame the parameters of this week’s debate. With the Conservatives crying foul over an obviously illegal process, Fancy Nancy could ditch the process at the last minute and therefore make validating the Senate Bill the more reasonable choice in the end. Now they can claim that the new media “fear mongers” went all-in over something that wasn’t even being ahem seriously considered. And again – Senate Republicans get the obstructionist label hurled at them when they try and tie up the Reconciliation Bill – the supposed “fix” to “the source of all the right’s outrage over corrupt deals and process in the first place.”

    Fortunately, I still think the states and others tie up the bill over substantive illegalities too.

    Regarding whether they have the votes now, I think the real scam was in ever putting faith in Democrats to stand on principles to begin with. Stupak obviously chose sides early on, alienating himself politically from the caucus and leaving his coalition open to the snake’s apple. Everyone else laying low has just wanted to be on the right side of the vote, nothing more. Sad.

  3. pianogirl88 says:

    That’s Louise Slaughter? Thought it was Helen Thomas!

  4. Clownzaround says:

    It don’t matter what rule they use it is unconstitutional and if thei is voted in look out we may have ended the republic and be servs for the rest of our lives and our children will be taught they are born to sever the government just like hitler did .

    At that point we will fight or get in line for the big brother revival.

    At this point I am in such a rage it don’t matter they are making the rules up as they go along and we are letting them.

    who have we become .

    there was 100,000 thousnd people in Washington and George Siris had the Nader bunch being the ones that were there .

    well let me tell you this call was in two days what do you think is going to happen when Our Freedom is taken by this law and Our Wealth handed over to George Soros and the SEIU to enforce the brownshirts slave movement

    and the reason Obama is not worried about 2012 the illeagals will be in here to vote by the Anmesty Bill being past.

    Obama is destroying us with Intent him and the Democratic People that are in this as well as the GOP needs to be impeached for treason and prosecuted.

    Or there is going to be a war of wars butif you wait to long you will be overtaken by Obamas inland army

    SEIU.Acorn,and the rest of the Unions

    Code Ponk and the New Black Panthers y this set Civil rights back to the 50s

    America it is time to let people know the ones that don’t have internet and there are plenty need to see flyers and bill boards there needs to be a bill board about George Soros destroying UK and France and him blocking the news because he owns the media

  5. Clownzaround says:

    It don’t matter what rule they use it is unconstitutional and if thei is voted in look out we may have ended the republic and be servs for the rest of our lives and our children will be taught they are born to sever the government just like hitler did .

    At that point we will fight or get in line for the big brother revival.

    At this point I am in such a rage it don’t matter they are making the rules up as they go along and we are letting them.

    who have we become .

    there was 100,000 thousnd people in Washington and George Siris had the Nader bunch being the ones that were there .

    well let me tell you this call was in two days what do you think is going to happen when Our Freedom is taken by this law and Our Wealth handed over to George Soros and the SEIU to enforce the brownshirts slave movement

    and the reason Obama is not worried about 2012 the illeagals will be in here to vote by the Anmesty Bill being past.

    Obama is destroying us with Intent him and the Democratic People that are in this as well as the GOP needs to be impeached for treason and prosecuted.

    Or there is going to be a war of wars but if you wait to long you will be overtaken by Obamas inland army

    SEIU.Acorn,and the rest of the Unions

    Code Ponk and the New Black Panthers y this set Civil rights back to the 50s

    America it is time to let people know the ones that don’t have internet and there are plenty need to see flyers and bill boards there needs to be a bill board about George Soros destroying UK and France and him blocking the news because he owns the media

    • proreason says:

      Clownz, write your posts in a word processor, spell and grammar check them, and then copy them to S&L.

      The grammar and spelling in this post are really bad.

  6. MinnesotaRush says:

    Clownz, while your post is a bit hard to decipher, you hit on some good points and an important message.

    I’m guessing that most all of us would agree, somewhat emphatically and with a lot of energy, that the Slaughter Rule is simply unconstitutional!!! It flies in the face of the spirit and intent of our Founders and our founding documents.

    It is a process crafted to circumvent our Constitution!!!

    I find it outrageous that, 1) such a devious and unconstitutional rule was created in the first place, and 2) that 222 United States Congressman voted in favor of its’ existence and potential use.

    It makes absolutely no difference to me (and I suspicion, many other Americans) whether they use their ridiculous rule, or not!

    They have boldly shown to me (and I suspicion, I hope, many other Americans) that the creators of this Slaughter Rule, ALL of those that endorsed or supported it in ANY fashion, and certainly those that voted for it have shown their complete willingness and intent to disregard and usurp the Constitution of the United States!!!

    Their oath of office very clearly states that they will “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States” and to that, they have sworn!!!

    Each and everyone of the 222 congressman that voted “Yea” to this “rule” (as well as the rest that endorsed or supported it – including o-blah-blah – he did nothing as president and leader of the Democratic Party to quash it) have violated their oath of office to God and their Country!!!

    Each and everyone of them – from top to bottom – need to be expelled from public office immediately. They have miserably failed their duty and sworn oath!!!

    This behavior by our elected officials has been ‘tolerated’ (disliked maybe, but tolerated) for a long, long time. It’s no wonder that there is so little regard for our Constitution in DC and elsewhere; but, it must STOP!!!

    Either we are a representative republic guided by the Supreme Law of the Land as contained in our Constitution; or, we are not!!! … and need to stop kidding ourselves that we are.

    Our Country is at dangerous, dangerous crossroads! Cool heads need to prevail; but we all must to our part to turn this ship of state around or we are surely doomed to that thousand years of darkness President Reagan spoke of.

    Here at home in (the very blue state of) Minnesota, The 56 Club (a civic organization I helped found in the spirit and tenor of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence) has started circulating Petition/Signature Sheets calling for the immediate expulsion of ANYONE who endorses or supports the “Slaughter Rule”.

    I’d invite and welcome any of the S&L folks who’d like copies of them to gather signatures in your areas to go our website (www.the56club.us), hit the “Contact Us” selection, and go ahead and request copies. We’d be happy to send them to you via email.

    Our hope is to gather TONS of autographs and have Michelle Bachman take them to DC. Definitely, at minimum, we need to “fire a shot across the bow”, so to speak.

    God bless us, all!!!! God Bless America!!! God Bless our Troops and Vets!!!


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