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Dems Advance O-Care In Dead Of Night

From the Politico:

Senate advances landmark health bill

By: Carrie Budoff Brown and Meredith Shiner
December 21, 2009

The Democratic Party’s decades-long push to remake the U.S. health care system cleared a major hurdle early Monday morning, with the Senate voting to advance a massive $871 billion bill to extend coverage to nearly all Americans and tighten regulations on private insurers.

Less than two days after releasing a bill with 383 pages of changes, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) corralled his politically diverse caucus and delivered the 60 votes necessary for the most crucial test vote in the legislative process so far — effectively assuring the reform package will clear the Senate later this week.

The last we heard nobody has still seen the bill except for Harry Reid and his top staffers.

The final tally was a straight party-line vote, 60-40. All Democrats and two independents voted yes and all Republicans voted no – and each side bitterly accused the other of trying to thwart true reform through petty gamesmanship.

Remember this for the next time you’re told there is not a dimes worth of difference between the two parties. $871 billion is a lot of dimes.

The senators voted just after 1 a.m. while seated at their desks, a rarely used practice implemented only for historic votes.

Adding to the sense of history: the late Sen. Ted Kennedy’s widow, Victoria Kennedy, watched the vote from the Senate gallery, then accepted hugs from a parade of Democratic senators who had just cast votes to move the nation toward Kennedy’s dream of universal health care.

"I feel fantastic," Kennedy told a small group of reporters. "This is an enormous victory."

It’s always great to see the Democrats following Saul Alinsky’s playbook. He regularly stressed the importance of making ‘nobodies’ feel like they were involved in a great historic movement.

If the Senate passes the bill as expected – after two more procedural votes this week and a final vote set for 7 p.m. Christmas Eve – House and Senate negotiators will begin the arduous process of melding two substantially different bills. Democrats are optimistic they can reach a final compromise, but that is by no means assured.

Senate Democrats have already warned the House that they had better not touch his bill. So much for ‘melding.’

Just moments before the vote, Reid said, “We have before us the ability to provide quality health care to every American, and we have the ability to treat our unhealthy health care system. That’s what this historic bill does.”

Which, of course, is completely untrue. This bill just mandates that everyone buy health insurance or face a fine or prison.

Indeed, this kind of healthcare reform really shows us how foolish we have been when facing our problems in the past by tweaking around at the edges instead of taking them on head on.

You say 40 million Americans are uninsured? Well, hell’s bells, we can fix that. We will just pass a law requiring that everyone buy healthcare coverage. Why didn’t we think of this sooner?

How many trillions of dollars have we wasted on the war on poverty? Why didn’t we just make poverty against the law? Anyone earning under the poverty level will have to pay a fine or go to jail.

Are 15 million people unemployed? Well, let’s throw them in jail if they won’t work. Problem solved.

As the Clinton flack Paul Begala one famously noted, "Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kinda cool." And better than cool, it’s so easy.

Though we do still wonder why it takes 2,000 pages of legislation, 111 new bureaucracies, and $871 $2.5 trillion taxpayer dollars just to make people buy insurance. You’d think all you’d have to do is add a line or two to the tax code.

But that’s our Congress for you. They don’t want things to be too simple.

This article was posted by Steve on Monday, December 21st, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

37 Responses to “Dems Advance O-Care In Dead Of Night”

  1. BillK says:

    No big shock, but at least the Democrats are as brazen as ever.

    From Fox News:

    Senate Democrats Warn House Not to Toy With Health Bill

    Do not mess with this bill.

    That was the message Senate Democrats sent to their colleagues on the House side over the weekend, warning them not to make any significant changes to the health care package heading toward a vote in their chamber if they want the bill to survive past Christmas.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Saturday won the support of the last known Democratic holdout, Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., giving him the 60 votes necessary to pass the bill out of the Senate. But assuming the bill clears the Senate, negotiators from both sides will still have to work out vast differences between the House and Senate versions in what’s known as a conference committee.

    Liberal Democrats are eager to negotiate and try to win back items that were stripped from the Senate bill like a government-run insurance plan. But the final version would again need 60 votes to overcome a Senate filibuster, and Senate moderates warn that any big changes in conference could erode that bloc.

    “Anybody who’s watched this process can see how challenging it has been to get 60 votes,” Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., said on “Fox News Sunday.” “It is very clear that the bill, the final bill, to pass in the United States Senate is going to … have to be very close to the bill that has been negotiated here. Otherwise you will not get 60 votes in the United States Senate.”

    The Senate bill was heading toward a critical test vote set for after midnight early Monday.

    Nelson bluntly warned Saturday that even though he planned to vote for the Senate bill this coming week, that pledge might not apply to the version that emerges from the House and Senate negotiations.

    “If there are material changes in that conference report different from this bill that adversely affect the agreement, I reserve the right to vote against the next cloture vote,” he said. “Let me repeat it, I reserve the right to vote against the next cloture vote, if there are material changes to this agreement in the conference report. And I will vote against it if that is the case.”

    Cloture is the process of cutting off debate that requires 60 votes. Because the Democrats have exactly a 60-vote majority in the Senate, party leaders had to individually accommodate every holdout in their party to move the bill forward — particularly since no Republicans are on board.

    This resulted in a bill that looks very different from the House version.

    But despite the tenuous support on the Senate side, liberal Democrats continue to call for major revisions in the conference committee.

    Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, who has led the fight against the Senate version, said Sunday that “we really do need some kind of a public option” in the bill.

    “Let’s see if we can fix it some more,” Dean said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “This can’t be the final version of this bill.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/20/senate-democrats-warn-house-alter-health/

    I love this:

    Nelson bluntly warned Saturday that even though he planned to vote for the Senate bill this coming week, that pledge might not apply to the version that emerges from the House and Senate negotiations.

    At least until Reid finds some additional way to pay him off.

    Of course we see Nelson as a moron, but his constituents I’m sure will love him – wouldn’t you if you just got the Government to pick up your state’s additional Medicare costs forever?

  2. GetBackJack says:

    EXACTLY how they passed all the banking laws that led to the Federal Reserve Act.

    Folks, it’s time to admit that Washington is a habitation of vampires, with their fangs sunk in our national jugular … and they are deathless. Age after age the same script plays on. Draining us of life, liberty and honor. Secession from the Union, or an actual Civi War to rip the power of (whatever the hell it is) out of their hands and hang them from the street lights.

    Lord Acton in his correspondence with General Robert E Lee …

    “Without presuming to decide the purely legal question, on which it seems evident to me from Madison’s and Hamilton’s papers that the Fathers of the Constitution were not agreed, I saw in State Rights the only availing check upon the absolutism of the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction but as the redemption of Democracy. The institutions of your Republic have not exercised on the old world the salutary and liberating influence which ought to have belonged to them, by reason of those defects and abuses of principle which the Confederate Constitution was expressly and wisely calculated to remedy. I believed that the example of that great Reform would have blessed all the races of mankind by establishing true freedom purged of the native dangers and disorders of Republics. Therefore I deemed that you were fighting the battles of our liberty, our progress, and our civilization; and I mourn for the stake which was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo.”

  3. wardmama4 says:

    Yes, while I am not for nor ever have been for slavery – the left has distorted the history of the civil war (and while Lincoln made good come out of bad) in that it was about States Rights and thus all of us should be Southerners now – and rise again against these corrupt, evil and vile carpetbaggers (i.e. the Klownposse in DC) before we have these losers sending their Thugs into our houses to confiscate our guns – just prior to the vote for a One World Government.

    Where is anyone with any power (Republicans, Independents, Supreme Courts Justices, Federal Judges, Governors, State Houses- Anyone?!?!) standing up and saying not No – but HELL NO to this un-Constitutional, illegal and immoral bunch of crooks, thieves and criminals in Congress (and their Thug Leader) who are destroying America?

    Does no one in anyone of the 3 branches of Government honor their oath of office – to uphold and support the Constitution – at all?

    And excuse me – but is a revolt of those of us who do – exactly what you want? And are your illegal aliens, welfare queens and benefit babies going to do your fighting for you – or are you going to depend on your gang bangers, SEIU/et al and Black Panther Thugs to do it for you?

    Great healing of America – turn it into an US v Them. Pssst, I read the book, I know who wins, get your head out of your pie-in-the-sky kumbayah world and come back to reality – read a little truthful history and see how often and how badly – communism, socialism and fascism fails over and over and over again. Isn’t that a sign of mental illness – to keep doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results? [Yeah, I’ve read your books – you think you are the one who will do it right, do it better – and you call us stupid (as an aside, have you read our books or do you rely on Media Matters, Huff Po, Daily Kos and the DNC for your ‘interpretations’ of any book not written by a leftist, ideas, beliefs and of course daily talking points?]

    God Help America – we have seen the enemy and he is us.

    • jobeth says:

      Wardmama, I found myself saying “Yeah” and “What she said” over and over while reading your comment. Great read!

    • tranquil.night says:

      I think the dirty little secret is it may have always been us verse them and we’re the one’s just now returning to the battlefield. Read those bloggers on huffing and puffington, heck, just analyze the behavior of most elected Democrats! They know what they believe and there’s no great attempt to hide it. In fact they parade it just like we do.

      Seeing Avatar this weekend couldn’t have made how they view this time any more obvious. By ‘they’ I mean the believers – since this is an ideological battle we’re talking about left and right becomes believer verse believer (just in the opposite sides of the coin).

      They want ruin. They will run themselves to suicide for everything that Copenhagen was. They honestly think there’s greater beauty in pandora, natural order, and death – than choice, moral law (i.e. INTEGRITY and TELLING THE TRUTH), and life. So as long as in the end we go down with them, then their dream of making a new world lives on with ‘the people’ and their purpose for being here remains. This is good verse evil for them, as it is us.

      Wardmama I agree with you completely, but while your points will resonate with others who are starting to realize how manipulated they’ve been, I still think we’re all vastly underestimating just how committed they are now that they’re in the pilot’s seat.

    • wardmama4 says:

      But tranquil – that is what ‘they’ want – for us to give in, to give up and to while maybe not saying I agree – at least to shut up.

      I can’t – When I think that this the greatest country in the World, of all history was brought about by the courage of 56 men – then what am I or should any Patriotic American be afraid of? Certainly there are more than 56 of us left in America.

      We The People must stand up and and fight back.

      I think of my family, the majority of whom (grandfather, father, uncles, brothers, husband, son, daughter, cousins and nephews & niece) who have willingly and gladly put on the uniform to fight for this country – and simply sitting here doing nothing is not right. I have reached the point of Give Me Liberty or give me Death. I’d rather Die a Freeman than live a slave. FREEDOM!

      And it must be stopped. Or there will be no America in the future – and then where will:
      “Give me your tired, your poor,
      Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
      The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
      Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
      I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

      Go? Where will there be hope for freedom, success and opportunity in the World? We can not, must not let the Light of Freedom, the Courage and Ideals of the 56 men in Philadelphia be extinguished forever – most especially by a small bunch of corrupt, lying, cheating and vile people.

      We Surround Them – now We must Fight Them and Defeat Them – Now is the Time to start Fighting back.

      2010 – Take Back America – Forever!

    • MinnesotaRush says:

      God Bless ya’, Wardmama ..

      .. boy am I with you!!!

      Even got a little bit of a group going up here in “Liberal Land” (aka MN – plz don’t hold that against me) called The 56 Club focusing on exactly that spirit you so eloquently identified! (www.the56club.us)

      Keep it up, girl!!!

  4. jobeth says:

    Ever notice how roaches and vermin do their “best” work in the dark of night?

    These people make me sick. Hard to stomach how they use our money to screw us over just to get a little personal power.

    I would not want to be in their shoes the day they meet their maker. Their day will come…cause “God don’t take no stink’in'” payoffs!

  5. proreason says:

    When we take the country back in 2010 and 2012, we will teach the criminals what ruthlessness is.

    Here’s a starting suggestion.

    Retroactively eliminate Congressional pensions for anybody leaving office after 2009.

    • jobeth says:

      HERE! HERE! and AMEN! (yes, I’m shouting!)

    • Petronius says:

      Ingenious.

    • wardmama4 says:

      Amen and also they must buy their own healthcare insurance – and account for any and all ‘trips’.

      And also Term Limits – 2 terms State Houses, 1 Term in the State Gov and 2 Terms in the US Congress – and if you are lucky 2 Terms as POTUS – and then you are out of an executive seat forever.

      And if you have a conviction – you are automatically out – not allowed to run, removed instantly from your seat.

    • MinnesotaRush says:

      And review the ENTIRE compensation and “perk” packages and make it more in line with the overall average American experience(s).

      Revise the “money” side to this jam jar and maybe, just maybe, we can reinvigorate the idea of “public service” and “what’s good for the Country?”.

    • Liberals Demise says:

      BINGO!!

  6. Rusty Shackleford says:

    “…For it is well known that evil works in darkness, while innocents sleep and where they cannot see. They prefer to ply their craft in the shadows and in blanketed secrecy, as it comforts them and makes them feel secure in their wretched dishonesty. Good, on the other hand, chooses to labor in the light; Openly, for all to see, so as to be revealed as honest and sure and to be proven trustworthy toward repair should any flaw be exposed.”

    tw

  7. GetBackJack says:

    http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3897/2/

    The Defund Pledge

    “Should I be elected, I solemnly pledge to my constituents that I will consistently vote to defund, or vote against appropriating any money for, any federal program or activity not specifically authorized by an enumerated power in the United States Constitution. For any federal program or activity I do vote to fund, I will provide the specific enumerated power constitutionally permitting it.”

    Further, Disobey

    What Ghandi knew.

    Disobey.

  8. Right of the People says:

    Like the old saying, “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.”

    This is why the Senate bill is over 2000 pages long to mystify and confuse anyone who might try to read it and make any sense at all out of it. Major changes are needed and ASAP, I’m not sure we can wait until even 2010 and the mid year elections to rid ourselves of these vermin.

  9. jobeth says:

    I know the general opinion is that once in place little can be done to “undo” a bill.

    However, is it still possible to undo this mess?

    I understand the tax increases will start almost immediately if this monstrosity gets the final nod by the lefties, but still it will take until 2013, if I have my facts right,, to fully implement it.

    How can we fight it before it is fully in…besides the obvious answer of voting in conservatives. Can they undo this?

    Someone more learned in this than me…please share you thoughts

    • tranquil.night says:

      Jo, I think we all hear you. Rush’s callers overwhelmingly today are calling in for guidance on the next move. Unfortunately I think the best answer I can give you is that it depends on how far they’ll take this revolution.

      Let me explain: first, I know ideologically Health Care looks lost for now. I’m calling this battle a stalemate though, because although the criticism is heavy on Lieberman and Nelson, I honestly wonder if all these compromises haven’t just served to further expose the obviously illegal process and weaken the statist’s cause. This is a clearly compromised bill that isn’t going to help anything and ruin everything.

      To repeal this bill I think there can’t be anymore bills passed until the Fall election. No Cap n Tax, and the big one – no amnesty. That last one is going to be the next big battle probably since we’re going to have to once again try and tow our RINOs back in to opposition by explaining that amnesty simply cannot go hand in hand with mandated or government provided health insurance. (Of course you could pass amnesty with the current version of Obamacare and end up with a bunch of former illegals going to the Republicans since there’s literally no money to cover them.. somehow I doubt that strategy would work).

      Freeze the socialist blitzkrieg here and from my viewpoint I think we’ve built the momentum and have the infrastructure left to save the American Constitution. Sure no entitlement program has ever been repealed, but other than Reagan there’s been no leader with the fortitude to finish this fight. Presently in 2010 we now have information capabilities that I argue might be capable of surpassing the Great Communictor, so anything remains possible with faith and commitment.

      It won’t be easy. Freeze government and the self-entitled left will not react peacefully. So that leads me back to my original answer: we’re largely at the mercy of their occupation.

    • proreason says:

      Any legislation can be repealed. It’s bullshit to say it is irrevocable.

      We just have to vote in people who will do it.

      And we need to send a loud and clear message NOW that anybody who gets hired into one of the 117 beurocracies is hiring into a temporary job. The jobs will be cancelled in 2011 if we have enough of a majority to overcome the Moron’s veto, or in 2013 if he is willing to commit political suicide by vetoing the cancellation before the 2012 elections.

      The taxes paid between now and the cancellation of the law may be more money down the drain. But that is the price we paid by not stuffing the Marxists in 2008. Anything paid out on this monstrosity before then will be a pittance compared to the other criminal spending the facists are doing right now.

    • jobeth says:

      Thanks for responding TN and Pro

      It seems to me if we can get back a conservative majority I hope we will rescind this bill. The taxes start immediately but that would be easy to roll back. But we have to roll the actual bill back before it gets implemented in 2013. Once implemented it would be like un-ringing a bell and that’s what the libs are looking for. That’s when it would be almost impossible to undo. It needs to be done before the damage starts.

      If that can be done then we can go back in and fix the health care parts that need fixing…such as tort reform etc.

      I’m hoping this might wake up a few people that have been sleeping so that they realize we are about to lose the America we have always known. I know I have bent more than one ear! I’m so scared for our country.

      Having watched first hand what socialized medical care did to my strong Brit 85 yr father in law (starve him to death because he was too old to get expensive care) I can see my own future take the same path.

      What gets me is that I was MANDATED to pay into this thing and I buy separate insurance. And now I can look forward to mandated rationing as I enter my senior years. I’ve always looked forward to my senior years knowing that I did the things I needed to take care of myself.

      Now, on top of it I am hearing if my senior income doesn’t meet some politician’s mandated level I will be mandatory placed on medicAID!!! I just gets worse and worse! (sorry I can’t find a link for this last statement…I heard this mentioned on TV…and praying it’s not true…has anyone else heard anything on this?)

      I used mandated and mandatory so often because that’s what we all face if this thing can’t be turned around!

      What a mess!!!!

    • wardmama4 says:

      I am not attacking you personally Jobeth but this is the essence of the problem –

      if we can get back a conservative majority I hope we will rescind this bill.

      Poll, after poll shows that 80+% of Americans consider themselves Christian and/or believe in God and 61% of Americans consider themselves Conservative.

      Thus We should be controlling Education, Business, the Courts, Academia and most especially the Government.

      We have let them lie, cheat, steal and as our sitting POTUS did smear their way into these positions for decades – when We are the majority and our beliefs are being but most importantly the Constitution and our Country are being destroyed by 21% of the Country.

      To me, that is unconscionable and must be stopped now.

    • jobeth says:

      “To me, that is unconscionable and must be stopped now.”

      I’m completely with you Wardmama. Now…is the time we need to start.

      But what can we do that we aren’t doing now? I know if we can find something…anything…that will make a difference we will all be lining up to do it.

      We have rallied…they ignore us. We have written congress…but get back form letters indicating our letters are not even being read.

      As I see it, we are in a planning stage. Our first real opportunity to put our views into action is in 2010 then 2012.

      Until we can get a majority I’m not sure what we can actually do except continue what we are doing now. And we MUST continue to keep the pressure on. And continue to spread the truth to our friends and neighbors.

      If you have any new ideas I would love to be involved! :-D

  10. Yarddog1 says:

    Those that hunger for power have overstepped. They are emboldened and care not for the will of the people. Their arrogance will be their undoing. They are not as clever as they think working under the cover of darkness.

    The camel saith, “NO MORE STRAWS”. Those of us who love America and the freedoms we have enjoyed are not happy. Life is short and its seasons go by quickly. Many of us will refuse tyranny.

    We have been far too tolerant for far too long and the struggle and sacrifice will be difficult. Prepare yourselves well as you will be tested.

    • BillK says:

      Seriously, what majority is going to vote against freebies?

      Most people will think “Hey, I’m unemployed, but at least I won’t have to worry about health care.”

      (Well, after 2014…)

  11. VMAN says:

    As we like to call these lefties around here political Al Qaeda

  12. artboyusa says:

    “So can I count on your vote, Senator Dodd?”

    “Well Harry, you know how it works in this town”.

    “How what works?”

    “It. You know – it. How it works. You know how it works”.

    “Huh?”

    “You know what I’m talking about, Harry”.

    “I do? Oh right – it! How it works. Is that what you mean?”

    “No, it is”.

    “Huh?”

    “Look, Harry. You want my vote, you gotta let me wet my beak”.

    “Wet your what?”

    “My beak. You gotta let me wet my beak!”

    “You’ve lost me, Chris”.

    “It’s from ‘Godfather 2’. The Mafia guy tells Robert DeNiro he needs ‘to wet his beak’. Quoting classic lines like that make bloated old white guys like me feel all ethnic and cool and with it”.

    “With what? That movie came out thirty years ago”.

    “Maybe that’s the last time I was cool. Anyway, the point is I want something for my vote”.

    “Well, you’ll have my personal gratitude-“

    “Harry! Jeezus! Gimme something that’s worth something, huh?”

    “Oh. Okay. So, how much?”

    “$500 mil”.

    “Chris, Chris, Chris. Be reasonable; this isn’t some banana republic. You can’t expect the American people to tolerate blatant vote buying on that kind of scale”.

    “No? What kind of scale will they tolerate?”

    “$100 mil should about do it”.

    “Hey, the system works! Done deal. Merry Christmas, Harry!”

    “Happy Winterval, Chris”.

  13. Reality Bytes says:

    In memory of the father of our country, George Washington, I propose a Christmas Eve Surprise Yet Peaceful Attack on Congress. In the dead of night, we cross the Delaware, the Potomac, the Ohio, the Mississippi, the Missouri & any other river between us & the Capitol, with feet wrapped in rags, with pitch forks & torches (figuratively speaking) & make our stand on the steps of the Capitol Building while Congress gets drunk with our money, our freedom, our childrens’ future.

    We fought a war with Britain for far less! Long live the Republic & God Bless the United States of America!

  14. Dr.420 says:

    I find many on the right who are hyperventilating about health care reform entertaining and sad. How could anyone be against health care for individuals, cutting waste in Medicare/Medicaid and cutting the deficit. To hear some on the right going on and on about cuts in medicare/medicaid were some of the same people who were losing their mind about rising medicare costs. So what is it?

    • Steve says:

      “How could anyone be against health care for individuals, cutting waste in Medicare/Medicaid and cutting the deficit.”

      Good one.

      Heavy sarcasm is always appreciated here.

    • proreason says:

      We’re not against health care for individuals. As a matter of fact, we all provide whatever health care we can afford for our families, since that is what responsible people do.

      But we are against buying health care for you and other deadbeats and marxists. We call that “stealing”, and we don’t find it “amusing”.

      And “doc”, why hasn’t the Moron begun cutting the waste in Medicare/Medicaid already? He has been in office 11 months. He could have saved the country 50 billion already, since his plan is to cut 500 billion over the next 10 years. According to my math, that translates into 50 billion a year. Why wait? I just don’t get it, and I’m “sad” that we flushed another 50 billion down the liberal sewer.

      And regarding cutting the deficit (in the liberal imagination, since all of the cuts are via the ephemeral “medicare” reduction which has zero chance of happening), why don’t we just eliminate all government services for welfare cheats, but keep the taxes that fund them. Would’t that work even better? Or maybe we could slap a 50% surtax on doctors, or whatever profession you are in. Both would reduce the deficit a lot. I’m amused that liberals and marxists haven’t already suggested them.

      Please rush your reasonable and rational response, because I’m calling Congress people, and based on your wisdom, I may have to change my tone.

    • BillK says:

      I think Dr. 420 has been smoking too much of his namesake.


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