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Dems Seeking Health-Care For Illegals

From the Washington Times:

Mexican Antonio Ocampo, 30, a recently deported migrant from Seattle, waits for a chance to cross to U.S. near the US-Mexico border fence in Tijuana, Thursday, Sept. 24, 2009.

Liberals seek health-care access for illegals

Stephen Dinan

September 28, 2009

Fearful that they’re losing ground on immigration and health care, a group of House Democrats is pushing back and arguing that any health care bill should extend to all legal immigrants and allow illegal immigrants some access.

The Democrats, trying to stiffen their party’s spines on the contentious issue, say it’s unfair to bar illegal immigrants from paying their own way in a government-sponsored exchange. Legal immigrants, they say, regardless of how long they’ve been in the United States, should be able to get government-subsidized health care if they meet the other eligibility requirements.

"Legal permanent residents should be able to purchase their plans, and they should also be eligible for subsidies if they need it. Undocumented, if they can afford it, should be able to buy their own private plans. It keeps them out of the emergency room," said Rep. Michael M. Honda, California Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus.

Mr. Honda was joined by more than 20 of his colleagues in two letters laying out the demands.

Coverage for immigrants is one of the thorniest issues in the health care debate, and one many Democratic leaders would like to avoid. But immigrant rights groups and the Democrats who sent the letters say they have to take a stand now.

President Obama has said he does not want health care proposals to cover illegal immigrants. The bill drawn up by Sen. Max Baucus, Montana Democrat and chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, excludes illegal immigrants from his proposed health care exchange.

Mr. Honda and his allies, though, say illegal immigrants should be allowed to pay for insurance if they can afford it, even if it comes through a government-established exchange. As a generally young, healthy part of the population, illegal immigrants could help reduce overall costs for those who buy into health exchange plans, the lawmakers said.

The Democrats’ letters, however, do not issue ultimatums or threaten to withhold support for the bills if their requests aren’t met.

The National Council of La Raza launched its own "flood their voice mail" campaign last week to put pressure on Mr. Baucus to expand coverage in his proposal to include all legal immigrants and to drop verification language in the legislation that would prevent illegal immigrants from obtaining coverage.

Mr. Honda told The Washington Times that he’s not pushing for illegal immigrants to gain access to taxpayer-subsidized benefits. "That’s an argument that’s been done already," he said.

Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican, said proposals that include government coverage for illegal immigrants leave him incredulous.

"If anybody can, with a straight face, advocate that we should provide health insurance for people who broke into our country, broke our law and for the most part are criminals, I don’t know where they ever would draw the line," he said.

Mr. King, who opposes Democrats’ health care plans in general, said illegal immigrant access in legislation "would be a poison pill that would cause health care to go down" to defeat.

Twenty-nine Democrats signed on to the letter on legal immigrants, while 21 signed the letter on covering illegal immigrants. Although the leadership of the Congressional Black Caucus signed the legal-immigrant letter in their capacity as CBC officials, they signed the other letter as individual members of Congress.

Under the 1996 welfare law overhaul, Congress restricted most federal benefits to longtime holders of green cards – those who have been in the country at least five years.

But Democrats chipped away at that rule when they reauthorized the State Children’s Health Insurance Program earlier this year and allowed states to cover all immigrant children and pregnant women, regardless of how long they’ve been in the country.

In their letter, the Democrats said health care costs are much lower for legal immigrants than for native citizens.

"Immigrants are part of our families, our communities, our economy, and contribute to the fabric of America," they wrote. "It is simply wrong that their taxes would pay for public health insurance programs to which they are not allowed access."

This is a rather obvious ploy, even by Democrat standards.

"Legal permanent residents should be able to purchase their plans, and they should also be eligible for subsidies if they need it. Undocumented, if they can afford it, should be able to buy their own private plans. It keeps them out of the emergency room," said Rep. Michael M. Honda…

Why would any illegal aliens opt into the government’s plan when they can get their healthcare via the emergency room for free? And if any would, why would they not have done so already?

No, the only purpose of this bill is to try to use legal immigrants as a wedge to get illegal aliens taxpayer subsidies down the road.

Who can object to allowing legal immigrants into the system? Unless one wonders why US taxpayers should subsidize the healthcare of exchange students and others who may only be here in this country on a temporary basis.

Certainly legal immigrants are a more sympathetic class. After all, they presumably obey our laws and paid taxes. But who can doubt that they are just a stalking horse for subsidizing illegal aliens?

And, as in case of the SCHIP program, it will only be a matter of time before illegal aliens will be allowed subsidies as well. The idea is to get the camel’s nose under the tent.

Still, the whole exercise seems to be a propaganda stunt. Since, as we have said before, any Democrat healthcare reform with any form of a public option will eventually allow provide subsidies to illegal aliens.

The Congress and the Supreme Court will see to it.

This article was posted by Steve on Monday, September 28th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

11 Responses to “Dems Seeking Health-Care For Illegals”

  1. Chuckk says:

    Big health care is dead this year. Instead we will get several small bills that nibble away at the edges. The Republicans will propose alternative plans that also involve government in health care in some small ways. This will be repeated year after year until we have full blown Obamacare.

    If we had a true conservative party that would actually repeal some bad legislation and rely on free markets, the country might have a chance. With the two parties we have now, its European nanny state socialism right around the corner.

    • proreason says:

      Republicans should say this:

      “Elect us in 2010 and we will immediately fix Health Care with 6 small legislative actions, with each Bill being 20 pages or less. The cost of all 6 will be less than $100 per year per taxpayer (or whatever the cost really is)”

      1. Reasonable tort reform.
      2. Allow interstate competition to enhance health insurance portability and lower health care costs.
      3. Enforce that once you are insured, pre-existing conditions will be covered if you change policies.
      4. Publicize State mandates for coverages like in vitro fertilization with the average cost per Health Insurance Policy, so that citizens will know what their State Legislators have forced upon them.
      5. Make Medicare fraud a crime punishable by 20 years in prison without parole.
      6. Enforce that every citizen purchasing a Health Insurance policy be offered a high deductable policy.

      We expect these reforms will lower the average cost of a Health Insurance Policy by 20% (or whatever it is), that the country’s health-related medical costs wll be recuced by x hundred billion per year, and that Medicare costs will be reduced by x ten billion per year.

      After these reforms are implemented, we will publicize a thorough analysis of the problems with Social Security and Medicare, with all sides of the debate represented, and begin a national dialogue to reach a consensus about solutions. We expect that the process will take 2 years, and that we will begin to enact legislation in 2012 to place those programs on sound footing.

  2. wardmama4 says:

    Sadly I think you are correct right now – I am holding out some hope that the Obama Media is twisting the facts a bit. However, as all 3 of my ‘representatives’ are going to vote for Obamacare – I see little hope (most especially since the local Rep – the last tally was 1000 to 1 against it – that is a tad overwhelming).

    I fear for this great Nation and the stupid people who elected The Won for whatever petty (he’s black, cool, young, hip, new, a change, etc) reason – rather than doing what is best for the country – but hey in 2008 – there was only the choice between arsenic and cyanide or sheer lunatics.

    Man what a choice.

  3. proreason says:

    The information I’ve seen recently is that unreimbursed Emergency Room care is only about 2% of Health Care Costs.

    Hardly a crisis.

    Unless you are a CommunSocialFascist in need of a good crisis to cement your power and domination over the plebes..

  4. caligirl9 says:

    Of course it would be Mike Honda rooting for this. He is from the Bay Area, and whenever he did his little “town hall” meetings, the spectators were of course overwhelmingly in favor of universal health care and very heavily Latino. The opposition was relegated to outside, and the local media were licking Honda’s feet.

    And if you are a Bay Area politician, there’s isn’t an illegal alien you don’t love. Embrace our sanctuary city polity … kumbaya.

  5. Tater Salad says:

    Illegal immigration + California = One broke azz state.

  6. canary says:

    Illegals already have free heatlh care, and the bill includes illegals getting free health care. I’m confused.

  7. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Well, perhaps I might not oppose healthcare for illegals….if we made sure they couldn’t vote.

    (sarcasm)

  8. wardmama4 says:

    Rep Sheila Jackson Lee was on Greta last night but first listening to her mention – every single blasted time she mentioned her home district – The fourth largest city in America – was so very annoying. But she started out – ‘All Americans’ and then went onto ‘individuals in America’ – and said that since they pay taxes (explain how to me, exactly Illegal Immigrants pay taxes, excuse me but I thought you had to have a SSN to do that?!?) they should have a way to pay for insurance? And does the idiocy of being able to pay taxes (Yeah Right) and not being able to buy insurance not cross her brain pan at all?

    However, Rush was saying yesterday – if they go to the ER and get any and all care for free – what exactly makes anyone think that they would voluntarily all of a sudden pay for something? Unless these Dems are going to sneak Amnesty/Immediate Citizenship in as the lure for healthcare to Illegals.

    She attempted to look and sound professional but the duplicitous aspects of her little ‘defense’ showed through.

  9. Reality Bytes says:

    Even the One’s Hording Backpacks?!

  10. Liberals Demise says:

    SIGH!!


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