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FactCheck (CNN) Says Pelosi Got It Right

From the truly laughable, FactCheck.org:

Nazi Symbols at Town Halls: The Real Story

August 10, 2009

Recent comments by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that swastikas and other Nazi imagery had been appearing at lawmakers’  town hall meetings on health care set off furious rounds of tweeting and blogging by outraged conservatives.

The episode began when the California Democrat was asked by a reporter whether she thought there was "legitimate grassroots opposition" at the meetings to congressional health care overhaul plans. She replied:

Pelosi: I think they are Astroturf. You be the judge … carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care.    

Pelosi’s remarks infuriated her opposition. Rush Limbaugh said on his Aug. 6 radio show that Pelosi was "unraveling" and had said overhaul opponents "are now wearing swastikas. She’s basically saying that we are Nazis."

Among the more civil reactions on one blog were these: "This woman is losing it";  "No one else has seen these swastikas"; and "Pelosi has no evidence whatsoever" to back up her claim.

Now there is evidence. After doing some investigating to authenticate images posted on blog sites, CNN addressed the controversy on Friday. Host Rick Sanchez showed a photo of a woman outside a Fort Collins, Colo., meeting with a sign that featured a swastika with a slash through it. Another photo from Denver is of a child in a stroller who is obscured by a sign bearing the words "No to Fascism"; it also bears a slashed-through swastika.

There’s another photo of a doctored image of Obama with a Hitler mustache, and one of a sign that uses the symbol associated with Hitler’s SS troops. Here’s the transcript:

Sanchez, Aug. 7: … Speaker Pelosi was correct. This sign, held aloft by a woman at a health care event in Fort Collins, Colorado, does in fact show the swastika. To be clear, the Swastika has a strike running through it as if to say, No Nazis.

Still, it’s obviously unsettling. And now we’re finding out there may be a pattern here. Look at this. Seen Thursday outside a health care forum in Romulus, Michigan. A photo of the president defaced by a Hitler mustache. Now this, see that sign, depicts Texas Democrat Lloyd Doggett as the devil, but to the left of that sign and you see the symbol of the murderous Nazi SS on a sign that says something to the effect Stop Socialism. You see another view of that same sign and notice – we can see – the man who’s holding it up – you discover he’s holding a little girl on his shoulders as he’s holding that sign.

One more to follow, look at this. This from yesterday. A child, Denver, Colorado. Enough said?

Pelosi did not actually accuse opponents of being neo-Nazis; that’s just the way Limbaugh and others chose to interpret her phrase, "carrying swastikas and symbols like that." It is clear from the images in hand that the anti-Obama protesters were the ones accusing others of Nazi-like tendencies. And Pelosi turns out to be right.

As we have noted often before, any semblance between FactCheck’s claims and actual ‘facts’ is largely coincidental. Of course this is what you would expect from an organization that is run by the former CNN reporter (Brooks Jackson).

Indeed, speaking of the ever objective CNN, this article does not appear to contain any independent fact-checking on FactCheck’s part. Instead, it simply accepts a CNN report as gospel.

Note, too, that FactCheck did not publish any of the photos that they are claiming proves people are, in the words of Ms. Pelosi, “carrying swastikas and symbols like that…”

Here are two of the photos CNN mentioned in their ‘in-depth investigation’:

Who in their right mind would characterize one person holding up a “No To Nazis” (Or “No To Swastikas”) sign as proof that people are carrying swastikas and symbols like that?

Has Ms. Pelosi or any of these reporters ever attended a leftwing demonstration?

Pelosi did not actually accuse opponents of being neo-Nazis; that’s just the way Limbaugh and others chose to interpret her phrase, "carrying swastikas and symbols like that."

Then what is the point of saying they were carrying these signs? Leave it to FactCheck, or rather their masters at CNN and the DNC, to try to pretend it could have any other meaning.

Of course as any fair and objective  observer caught on a long time ago, instead of being a fact check organization, FactCheck is just another arm of the many-armed Democrat spin machine. Just look at the their archives.

As we have also previously noted, despite all of Mr. Obama’s obviously false claims in his unprecedented number of media appearances, FactCheck has found fault with some of his claims only twice since he assumed office – and then in only the gentlest fashion..

Meanwhile these maven of truth had the temerity to report back at the end of April:

100 Days of Spin

April 29, 2009

What Obama said — and what has been said about him.


After 100 days in office, we find President Obama is sticking to the facts – mostly

And speaking of whoppers, as we also noted at the time, when they were about to close down their shop after the elections they said adios with yet another preposterous defense of Nancy Pelosi:

Year-end Whoppers

The bunk just keeps on coming.

By Brooks Jackson | factcheck.org

Dec 26, 2008


We’ve often said that the spin never stops in Washington. And the weeks since Nov. 4 offer further evidence of that.

Consider some of the bogus claims we’ve debunked just since Election Day:

  • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not demand a 757-size personal jet, a false claim resurrected when Democrats criticized Big Three executives for flying to D.C. on their own private jets to beg for aid.
  • Of course this is simply a flat out lie, as we demonstrated at the time, and indeed, as recent events have proved again.

    But this is what FactCheck.org does.

    At one point back in February their ten most recent “Fact Check” articles were:

    1. GOP Stimulus Myths

    Many claims of Democrats slipping in earmarks for frivolous projects aren’t true.

    Tuesday, February 24, 2009

    2. Doctor’s Orders?

    Republicans claim that the new stimulus law says the government will tell physicians what procedures can and can’t be performed. It doesn’t.

    Tuesday, February 24, 2009

    3. Is Congress going to require a federal license to own a handgun?

    A Chicago congressman’s bill, H.R. 45, would require that, but it has little support. The same bill died quietly in a House subcommittee last year.

    Sunday, February 22, 2009

    4. Did Obama pay for Hamas-affiliated terrorists to emigrate to the United States?

    This claim is false. The president’s memorandum to the State Department would pay for refugee assistance in Gaza, not for transporting anyone to the U.S.

    Thursday, February 19, 2009

    5. Was Bush’s exit from office a "Class Act" compared with Clinton’s?

    A widely forwarded e-mail contains some false and exaggerated claims, along with some truths. It also contains made-up headlines about Obama.

    Wednesday, February 18, 2009

    6. What will the stimulus bill cost per family?

    The added federal debt comes to about $10,000 per family. A Republican senator who used a figure 10 times higher than that is wrong.

    Monday, February 16, 2009

    7. Is Leon Panetta’s daughter a "radical anti-American" who posed with Venezuela’s Chavez?

    Actually, President Obama’s nominee to head the CIA doesn’t even have a daughter. The woman pictured in a false viral e-mail message is a Philadelphia-based photographer who says she’s never met Leon Panetta.

    Friday, February 13, 2009

    8. Stimulus Bill Bravado

    Obama claims the stimulus legislation will do all sorts of things. But there are no guarantees.

    Friday, February 13, 2009

    9. What are the facts on the Freedom of Choice Act?

    Some claims about this proposal’s impact are unfounded; others contain some truth. But the bill’s vague wording makes it hard to pin down what it actually would or wouldn’t do.

    Wednesday, February 11, 2009

    10. Did Congress bail out AIG because it insures members’ pensions?

    This widely e-mailed claim is a hoax. It actually was the Federal Reserve that bailed out AIG, not Congress. And federal pensions aren’t insured by AIG or any other company.

    Monday, February 9, 2009

    All but one of these pieces defends Mr. Obama and the Democrats and criticizes Republicans. And, in typical fashion, that exception is amazingly tepid: “Obama claims the stimulus legislation will do all sorts of things. But there are no guarantees.”

    While the bulk of FactCheck’s claims are quite contentious at best, they do list a couple of items that were obviously in error. Such as the emails about resettling Hamas in the US and Panetta’s daughter.

    But were either of these nonsensical claims ever important to the life of the republic?

    But given that Mr. Obama and the Democrats have total control over the Federal Government, wouldn’t you think it would be somewhat important to monitor the people who have the power to affect our lives?

    After all, that is supposed to be FactCheck’s mission, as it is enunciated on their about page:

    About FactCheck.org – Our Mission

    We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit “consumer advocate” for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.

    That’s a relief to hear they are nonpartisan, is it not?

    Just imagine the damage they could do if they took sides.

    This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, August 11th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

    5 Responses to “FactCheck (CNN) Says Pelosi Got It Right”

    1. BillK says:

      This isn’t surprising.

      Denver radio station KOA’s Jon Caldera has discussed more than once that there is a person from what used to be the Colorado arm of Media Matters who specifically travels to all conservative events to look for swastikas.

      But leave it to the left to treat a “no swastikas” sign as somehow being Nazi propaganda.

    2. proreason says:

      “Who in their right mind ”

      That’s the catch

    3. MinnesotaRush says:

      Holy smokes! Scared me to death! That’s quite a “mob” pictured there.

    4. Liberals Demise says:

      MY GOD!
      Call in the Marines to take back the streets from these dangerous and lawless sign carriers. This must not be allowed to happen in the streets of America!!
      Next thing you know, they will demand freedom and the Right to vote for whom they want!!

    5. curvyred says:

      When will the MSM realize they are no longer relevant. It is becoming more and more clear everyday, but they do not seem to be catching on.

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