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‘FactCheck’ Defends Dems 10 More Times

As we have noted previously, somehow just as soon as Mr. Obama was elected President last November so many of our media watchdogs closed down their “fact-checking” operations.

Even the famously unbiased Annenberg Foundation said they were going on hiatus.

But, alas, they have not been able to refrain themselves in the face of the unrelenting lies being spread about their idol.

Behold the latest ten “Fact Check” articles from  from FactCheck.org:

1. GOP Stimulus Myths

Many claims of Democrats slipping in earmarks for frivolous projects aren’t true.

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

2. Doctor’s Orders?

Republicans claim that the new stimulus law says the government will tell physicians what procedures can and can’t be performed. It doesn’t.

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

3. Is Congress going to require a federal license to own a handgun?

A Chicago congressman’s bill, H.R. 45, would require that, but it has little support. The same bill died quietly in a House subcommittee last year.

Sunday, February 22, 2009

4. Did Obama pay for Hamas-affiliated terrorists to emigrate to the United States?

This claim is false. The president’s memorandum to the State Department would pay for refugee assistance in Gaza, not for transporting anyone to the U.S.

Thursday, February 19, 2009

5. Was Bush’s exit from office a "Class Act" compared with Clinton’s?

A widely forwarded e-mail contains some false and exaggerated claims, along with some truths. It also contains made-up headlines about Obama.

Wednesday, February 18, 2009

6. What will the stimulus bill cost per family?

The added federal debt comes to about $10,000 per family. A Republican senator who used a figure 10 times higher than that is wrong.

Monday, February 16, 2009

7. Is Leon Panetta’s daughter a "radical anti-American" who posed with Venezuela’s Chavez?

Actually, President Obama’s nominee to head the CIA doesn’t even have a daughter. The woman pictured in a false viral e-mail message is a Philadelphia-based photographer who says she’s never met Leon Panetta.

Friday, February 13, 2009

8. Stimulus Bill Bravado

Obama claims the stimulus legislation will do all sorts of things. But there are no guarantees.

Friday, February 13, 2009

9. What are the facts on the Freedom of Choice Act?

Some claims about this proposal’s impact are unfounded; others contain some truth. But the bill’s vague wording makes it hard to pin down what it actually would or wouldn’t do.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

10. Did Congress bail out AIG because it insures members’ pensions?

This widely e-mailed claim is a hoax. It actually was the Federal Reserve that bailed out AIG, not Congress. And federal pensions aren’t insured by AIG or any other company.

Monday, February 9, 2009

Of course there are a few things noted that actually were not completely accurate. (Such as resettling Hamas in the US.)

But most of FactCheck’s claims are still quite contentious.

But more to the point, in the last several week has there not been any misinformation coming out from the Obama administration or the Democrat Party that would be worthy of mention?

Especially given that Mr. Obama and the Democrats have total control over the Federal Government?

Wouldn’t it be more important to concentrate on the people who have the power to affect our lives?

After all, that is supposed to be FactCheck’s mission, as it is enunciated on their about page:

About FactCheck.org – Our Mission

We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit “consumer advocate” for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.

That’s a relief to hear, is it not?

Just imagine the damage they could do if they were partisan.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, February 25th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

19 Responses to “‘FactCheck’ Defends Dems 10 More Times”

  1. proreason

    Of course, these are laughable….most use The Moron’s tactic of taking an obviously silly claim by an unstated party and debunking it. It’s like me saying “Many have accused me of beating my wife, but here she is in the pink of health. The claimants are liars.”, when in fact nobody but a few fringe loons ever said it. There’s even a name for the tactic….something like batting a straw man down. The Moron does it all the time.

    But to illustrate the deceipt in one of them:

    “6. What will the stimulus bill cost per family?
    The added federal debt comes to about $10,000 per family. A Republican senator who used a figure 10 times higher than that is wrong.”

    - this has the prepostorous assumption that the $787B is one-time spending. Heritage Foundation estimates the true spending at $3.2T, and that is probably low

    - this has the prepostorous assumption that the spending will be equally spread among families, when we know that 40% of tax filers pay no taxes, and shouldn’t be counted.

    So, using 2.3 members per family (low considering the breeding habits of Obamy’s supporters), and 3.2 Trillion (also low), and 60% of families, the math comes to $41,000 per tax-paying family.

    But it’s really worse than that for many of you.

    The right way to calculate the impact to yourself is to realize that the cost is 3.2 times 1 year’s income taxe receipts (since receipts are about 1 trillion per year).

    So, if your family paid $25,000 in income taxes last year (typical for income around 125,000), then the Depression Stimulus will cost YOU about $80,000.

    Unless, of course, you lose your job like so many have already.

    • proreason

      One more thought on this.

      The Moron, and this Orwellian FactCheck.org are masters at saying things that are correct at a certain level, but criminally deceiptful at a deeper level.

      I gave two examples above, but there are dozens of variations, some of which no honest person would even recognize without having the technique pointed out.

      When The Moron says “let’s step back and look at this”, for example, he is ignoring the question, and changing the topic to something else he has a poll-tested response prepared for, and which is likely to be correct on a shallow level.

      One of my contentions about The Moron is that he has been trained on these techniques for decades. Even a very smart person can’t be good enough to do this stuff across a wide range of issues and topics without formal, intense training. It requires a strategy, and long study to master the many techniques. You don’t just wake-up one day and have the art-form mastered, and even when you understand the tricks, you still have to have the details at your fingertips. Look at politicians in general. You can tell very quickly who the masters are from the neophytes…and there aren’t many masters. A person simply could not have a real job and become proficient enough to do this in the glare of national attention.

      He was TRAINED.

    • pdsand

      Sort of like during the debates, when neither candidate would answer the question that was asked. And when McCain would give the rare criticism of Obama during his responses. Then somehow the moderators always let Mr. Obama have an unscheduled minute or two to respond to Mr. McCain’s responses to Obama’s answers, always on talking point, always the focus group response. It was very good gamesmanship, and excellent at keeping on message, but I wish people wouldn’t drool over him like he’s some sort of smart person or a motivating orator. I just wish somebody with a voice would’ve challenged him, because to the great unwashed, it must have really looked like he was “setting the record straight” when of course nothing could be farther than the truth.

    • proreason

      McCain is masterful at this political misdirection stuff himself.

      But he voluntarilly tied both hands behind his back. He had the ability to counter The Moron and wouldn’t do it.

      He did an unforgiveable disservice to his country by doing that.

      But I also think that after the radicals tanked the economy in September, McCain lost his heart for the fight.

    • pdsand

      Agreed, I watched the last debate with real hope that McCain would make a real conservative argument and show Obama for the fool he is, but it just didn’t happen, he was so intent on being the nice guy with the honorable campaign, and whatnot. Even a few times he made good arguments, but then Obama always stood up and says, I just want to respond, and of course McCain just let the “response” go without a peep. I kept thinking, this is the only chance, Mr. McCain, from here on out, Obama will not be questioned, he will not be challenged, everything he does will be celebrated, the only chance to turn the thing around is tonight, and you only have to do it by showing liberalism to be the embarassment that it is. But oh, well maybe next time Jindal will actually fight the good fight.

  2. Reality Bytes

    What is Truth? – Pontius Pilate

    He would have been quite at home in Washington today, wouldn’t he?

  3. curvyred

    That’s very interesting.

    I cannot believe that Yahoo actually used some “facts” to call out TCO:

    “FACT CHECK: Obama’s words on home aid ring hollow”

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....heck_obama

  4. brad

    Fact Check’s job is now to debunk emails swirling around against Obama? That doesn’t really match up well with their mission statement.

    They sound more like defense attorneys than a supposedly neutral organization. But, that’s they way things are in our new Orwellian government.

  5. U NO HOO

    “The right way to calculate the impact to yourself is to realize that the cost is 3.2 times 1 year’s income tax receipts (since receipts are about 1 trillion per year).”

    That is what I have been doing in conversations when someone says, “Well it isn’t a lot of money these days especially when there are so many people losing jobs, blah, blah, blah.” I just mention income tax is one trillion so if we don’t spend a trillion we saved YOUR income tax for a year. Some times it works, some times it doesn’t, like, “Well we have to help the poor and the economy. Obama is sooooooo smmaaarrrtttt!”

    • proreason

      3 explanations for why somebody doesn’t look-up when you explain it that way:

      1. they don’t believe it (i.e., i don’t make a lot of money… Obamy will take care of ME. Or, Obamy didn’t tell me, so it can’t be true.)
      2. they don’t understand it (i.e., uuuh, i’m a moron. don’t confuse me with stuff like that)
      3. they are drunk on Obamy love (i.e., i’m thinking with the banana in my pocket right now)

      But you know, U NO (cool), if even ONE person listened, you have made the world a better place.

      Congrats for trying.

  6. A Mad Pole

    It must have been a slip of the mind, if you will, but I read the headline as FATCHECK.org

    I guess someone there IS getting a fat check from Soros or his ilk.

  7. studmuffin

    Well, they didn’t call him on his claim in last night’s speech that America invented the automobile. He also said that there was a bankruptcy every thirty seconds. That would be over 63,000,000 per year. Can you imagine if Bush had made these gaffes? Where is our watchdog media?

    • brad

      Just like, “Bumbling Joe’s Gaff-tastic Cavalcade of Bumbling Gaffes!” –When he said Roosevelt got on t.v and calmed us down about the stock market crash in 1929. I am sure Factcheck was on the scene not doing anything.

    • pdsand

      Not just a bankruptcy, but specifically a healthcare related bankruptcy every 30 seconds. What with all the other bankruptcies going on, there must be billions of Americans going bankrupt every year.

      Then he said these two sentences in the same speech.
      “Because of this plan, 95 percent of working households in America will receive a tax cut, a tax cut that you will see in your paychecks beginning on April 1.”
      “In fact — in fact, the recovery plan provides a tax cut — that’s right, a tax cut — for 95 percent of working families. And, by the way, these checks are on the way.”

      So which is it? Are we getting less withheld from our regular paychecks, or are checks “on the way”, implying to me, in the mail?

      Then he made the next two statements in the same speech:
      “And though all of these challenges went unsolved, we still managed to spend more money and pile up more debt, both as individuals and through our government, than ever before.”
      “And we will do so in several ways. First, we are creating a new lending fund that represents the largest effort ever to help provide auto loans, college loans, and small-business loans to the consumers and entrepreneurs who keep this economy running”

      So which is it, is debt bad, or is debt good?

  8. pdsand

    A brief quote Mr. Obama’s comments last night:
    “We have known for decades that our survival depends on finding new sources of energy, yet we import more oil today than ever before. The cost of health care eats up more and more of our savings each year, yet we keep delaying reform. Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for. And though all of these challenges went unsolved, we still managed to spend more money and pile up more debt, both as individuals and through our government, than ever before. In other words, we have lived through an era where too often short-term gains were prized over long-term prosperity, where we failed to look beyond the next payment, the next quarter, or the next election. A surplus became an excuse to transfer wealth to the wealthy instead of an opportunity to invest in our future. Regulations… Regulations — regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market. People bought homes they knew they couldn’t afford from banks and lenders who pushed those bad loans anyway. And all the while, critical debates and difficult decisions were put off for some other time on some other day.”

    Factcheck.org should check that little paragraph and determine how much of that is actually true, and out of that, how much is in fact to blame on Democrats, rather than Obama’s obvious insinuation that it was Republicans’ fault.

    I think I could have a full time job if I went around listening to what Obama actually says, and pointing out how much of it is bald faced lies, and how much of it is obfuscation. I seriously think that his grain of truth in a speech is maybe 5%.

    • proreason

      All lies in one form or another.

      Oil – Partial lie. We use less on a % basis than ever, but we do import now more than ever

      Health Care – A typical Moron rhetorical trick. Health Care costs more because we have MORE LIFE-SAVING TREATMENTS available. The alternative is to die….which is what the commiecrats will enforce for senior citizens.

      Schools- yes, they are a mess, and whose fault is that. The Moron himself frittered 50M away.

      Transfer wealth to the wealthy – A flagrant lie. Wealth strata’s are relatively the same today as ever. When the libwits tell this lie, btw, they don’t count any entitlements (welfare, SSN, Medicare, etc, etc, etc) which have soared since the Johnson years. There are many many sub-lies in this one as well

      Regulations – A flagrant lie. There are more regulations now than ever. Besides, regulations are the PROBLEM, not the solution.

      Lenders pushing bad loans – A laughable lie. Moron liberals forced the banks to make bad loans.

      Debate put off for another day – A contemptable lie. Bush opened many debates.

      Every word that comes out of The Moron’s mouth is a lie of some sort. Telling lies is his career.

    • pdsand

      My wife won’t watch an Obama speech with me anymore, I can’t sit and watch without saying, that’s not true, because… and go on for 30 seconds or so until I disprove every point that he says. It’s just…wow.

      I think he brought up that old canard about putting off things until the next time several times during the speech, and I kept thinking, how many times did all of this come up during Bush’s presidency? And the debate was there it was just so split that a lot of things didn’t happen. How can anyone really say with a straight face that we put anything off during the Bush years?

    • proreason

      pd, my wife hates The Moron with a blind passion, unlike my cool, steely, objective analysis ( :-0 )

      But she also listens to NPR a lot when she is driving. Every day or so she calls me with some new nonsense, and I have to say…”look. Everything they say is a lie. It may not be obvious why, but every single thing is a lie.” Then I’ll discuss what she heard.

      I have to say, she is pretty patient about it…..and she’s beginning to figure a lot of them out on her own.

      Really, once you understand that it’s all about power and control, and that socialism is the lollipop for their idiot supporters, and the idiot supporters are strictly about stealing from us, then everything they do makes perfect sense.




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