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FDNY To Charge For Emergency Services

From the New York City CBS affiliate, WCBS:

FDNY Set To Institute ‘Crash Tax’

New Yorkers Stunned At Notion Of Being Billed By Firefighters

December 9, 2010

NEW YORK (CBS 2) — The cost of driving in New York City is about to get more costly. That is, if you need medical attention after an accident.

In a time of tight budget times, the city is looking for new ways to recoup costs. And drivers needing help from the FDNY will be the targets…

Starting next summer, the city plans to bill drivers in accidents that require an emergency response.

The so-called “crash tax” works like this: A car fire or accident with injury would cost you $490. A car fire without injury, $415. And any vehicle accident without injury will run you $365

Don’t worry. If you are an illegal alien driving without a license or insurance, there will be no way they can collect from you. (Plus you get your medical care for free.)

The FDNY says: “We want to relieve pressure on the taxpayer and place it on those at fault and their insurance. Right now if you’re at fault at an accident or a vehicle fire, you get a free ride. And that should not be borne by the taxpayers.”

But under the plan, you’ll get charged even if the accident isn’t your fault


By the way, aren’t these the epitome of ‘essential services’? Isn’t this what New Yorkers pay (incredibly high) city taxes for? They certainly would rather fund this than most of the nonsense their tax dollars are squandered on.

And if New York is looking for a way to save money, maybe they should take a look at the outrageous salaries and benefits of these firemen, which after only five years service automatically hit six figures.

The FDNY said it’ll hold public hearings next month and that they’ll take the public’s concern into consideration. But because the idea doesn’t need City Council approval, and already has the backing of Mayor Michael Bloomberg, most expect its implementation to be a given.

The proposal is set to take effect July 1 and is expected to raise $1 million in revenue.

And how many more people will leave the city because of this? How much money will be lost?

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, December 10th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

20 Responses to “FDNY To Charge For Emergency Services”

  1. oldpuppydixie says:

    You said it best….the illegals who cause the accidents will get off scot free!

  2. GetBackJack says:

    This used to be called double dipping and was seriously uncool. Sounds like Bloomberg is determined to depopulate NYC.

  3. canary says:

    For an optional 4 bucks a month on our utility bills you can call for ambulances & fire-trucks that all you want. It’s great for falls, or like the when the kids down the street thought their dad was dead, but he was just passed. lol. They got a teddy care bears too. Older people fall and get get up, and they don’t hesitate to call.
    Think your having a heart attack, which may be common for some, since Obama’s reign, just call the 3 numbers.
    Help me help me. I just heard Obama say something about we were holding hostages, were suppose to fight his enemies, plus he’s looking for someone’s a** to kick. I can see where New Yorkers are apt to say there’s a yellow taxi smoking. Hurry.

  4. Melly says:

    What’s next? Get mugged and pay a fee to the police?

    • Right of the People says:

      In the old Soviet Union, the KGB used to charge the family for the bullet they used to kill a family member. It might come to that in Moscow on the Hudson.

  5. dscam says:

    I’m no fan of big government, but of the few things I want the government to provide, emergency services are pretty high on the list. If I’m reading this correctly, any accident without injury or fire will cost 365 bucks, which I presume they’ll charge both drivers for. Essentially the fire department wants to collect $720 for hopping in a fire engine and driving a couple blocks to ask if you’re ok. What a crock. Anybody want to go to NYC with me and open up a private, for-profit fire department? We could seriously undercut the FDNY and still make a killing at this!

  6. BigOil says:

    If the government is going to begin charging directly for services rendered, I assume they will also begin sending refund checks to property tax payers that do not have kids in school.

    • dscam says:

      If your kids are in a public school they should be sending you a refund anyway…

      But in seriousness, that’s just the problem. I’d be all for charging people (or their insurance) for firefighters responding, but it’s not like this fee is going to lower anybody’s taxes. The FDNY is starting to sound like a disreputable mechanic, attempting to double-charge you for services.

  7. JohnMG says:

    …..“We want to relieve pressure on the taxpayer and place it on those at fault and their insurance. Right now if you’re at fault at an accident or a vehicle fire, you get a free ride. And that should not be borne by the taxpayers……”

    When all of these fire and ambulance services were proposed, there was a tax assessed to cover the costs. That’s how they get people to vote for such programs.

    But these ass-clowns have become so blatantly greedy to the point they don’t even try to mask what they’re doing. Need I mention these poor stalwarts–these selfless public servants–are unionized? And their salaries and pension benefits are enough to make me weep. They are in a criminal class all by themselves, with a “screw-the-public-what-are-they-gonna’-do-about-it” attitude. I mean, after all, the insurance companies will take the hit, right?

    I’d like to ask the dick head who made this statement which taxpayers will get their “police-fire-ambulance” tax refund for not having accidents. The guy has to be a mental cripple!

  8. Chuckk says:

    We pay 50-60% of our income in various taxes. Now we must pay additional taxes and fees for any services we get from the government. What do these taxes give us? Where will it end?

    • Liberals Demise says:

      The “Death Tax” for you.
      The “Inheritance Tax” for your loved ones!

    • Petronius says:

      The Death Tax must be the cruelest invention by any government since the Soviet gulag.

      No, I take that back. At 55% Federal, and 5 to 10% State, the Death Tax is worse than the gulag. It is confiscation of your entire life’s work; it is the annihilation of private property and of the right of ownership, the right to hold and gift your private property.

      On the one side, it is a tax that robs the sick and elderly, who no longer have the strength and wits to take countermeasures to defend themselves from the government’s tax collectors. On the other side it’s a tax that impoverishes widows and orphans, and that robs charities of donations.

      It’s chief purpose must be punitive (to punish success), as the tax revenues generated from the Death Tax are relatively insignificant.

      Yet it appears that on Monday this is the place where the Liberals in Congress will make their stand; they will demand a harsher Death Tax as the price of their support for the rest of The Compromise.

  9. MinnesotaRush says:

    “FDNY To Charge For Emergency Services”

    Coming to a city very, very close to you soon!

  10. proreason says:

    $100K for firefighters after 6 years? Don’t they also get gold-plated, lifetime, inflation adjusted pensions that they can begin collecting in middle age.

    God love em for their courage in doing the job, but my goodness. Is their job more dangerous than the Marines who went into Fallujah and the special ops guys who are in Afghanistan?

    I hate to be critical of people who risk their lives, but still. How much training does the job require? Doctors go to school for 20 years, work 18 hours a day for peanuts for another 4, are the top 1% of society in terms of intelligence, pay $200K to get the education…..and they are now demonized and in the process of being put out of business.

    This government madness has to stop.

    • JohnMG says:

      It’s much as you say, Pro, but not that way all over. Only where union membership is compulsory. In other words, where the leadership starts working both sides of the street making themselves wealthy.

      My brother was a firefighter for a St. Louis suburb. He retired after 20 years but his pension isn’t squat compared to those from the Big Apple. His was a forced union membership after some people with whom he worked organized the force and they voted for collective bargaining. He was on the outs with them from the start and was fairly vocal about it. Since they were starting from scratch the initial pension plan contributions, etc were fairly modest. When the union started milking the community they served for more money for salaries and pension, they bought off the membership by promising greater and greater benefits in exchange for unquestioned support. A not so subtle pay-to-play scam. Those members who asked that cooler heads prevail were ostracized, sometimes openly berated.

      The deal was, you could get out with 20 years service but those who got in on the ground floor would only get a token monthly benefit, and 27 years was the threshold for a reasonable monthly retirement benefit, thirty years being recommended. If you happened to get in on the ground floor when you were 30 years old, you were guaranteed to get hosed by the system. Those who got in after the union had been well established reaped the benefits. Mike was passed over for promotion several times because he knew what was afoot and wasn’t bashful about informing the other members. Thus, he paid a price for his outspoken-ness. He couldn’t stand it any more and got out after 20 years.

      Contrast this with a friend of my youngest son, who just recently withdrew in protest from the union of which he had been a member. Membership wasn’t compulsory. Bill is a firefighter/EMT who refuses to be coerced into funding an organization he has come to loathe. And he has enough seniority that he can’t be edged out of his job. He hopes to encourage a lot of the younger members to resist being steamrolled into supporting something to which they are opposed.

      I’ve been a union carpenter for over 41 years, mostly because in the construction business around here it is difficult to be in business and remain competitive in the marketplace if you aren’t. I’ve been self-employed for about 25 of those years. But I’ll tell anyone who will listen–unions are ruining this country!

    • proreason says:

      John, thanks for the info.

      I have no problem with workers competing for better wages, even including organizing.

      But I have a BIG problem when they use the political system to do it and are then protected by the politicians. That’s not competition, that’s racketeering.

      And unions for government workers ought to be banned. The government, by definition, is the most equitable organization in the country (understanding that there are issues currently that have to be corrected). There is no need for unions for government work, and the opportunities for corruption have been proven in spades over the last few decades. It’s a major problem for the country.

  11. DW says:

    I am curious, and hopefully a New Yorker can help me out here:
    Why would the FDNY respond to any traffic accident other than an accident where someone is trapped in the vehicle and needs extrication?

    I realize different jurisdictions have different ways of doing things, but is there no separate ambulance service in NY?

    Normally, a traffic accident gets called in -police get sent. Someone hurt? -police and ambulance get sent. Unless there’s an obvious fire, the FD doesn’t even hear about this unless requested by police or ambulance. Again it varies from place to place.

    Is the FDNY overwhelmed with calls that they shouldn’t be responding to and are making a protest that they know will be felt and heard?
    Or is it, as most here posit, a union managing to destroy all the goodwill that was bought and paid for by 343 firefighters on 9/11/01?

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