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France: Strikes On Libya ‘Within Hours’

From the Agence France-Presse:

Air strikes within ‘hours’ after UN Libya vote

by Sara Hussein
March 18, 2011

BENGHAZI, Libya (AFP) – France said Friday military action against Libya would come "within hours", as a UN vote approving air strikes was celebrated by rebels and Moamer Kadhafi’s son said his family was "not afraid."

The strikes will come "rapidly… within a few hours," French government spokesman Francois Baroin said after the UN Security Council on Thursday cleared the way for air raids to protect civilians from Kadhafi’s advancing forces.

Not to pick nits. But the UN resolution was passed last evening. So we are probably already past what most people think of as "within hours."

Baroin said the goal of the military action would be to "protect the Libyan people and to allow them to go all the way in their drive for freedom, which means bringing down the Kadhafi regime."

So far Britain, France, the United States, Norway and Qatar are among the countries that have said they will help to enforce the no-fly zone, while China, Germany, Poland, Australia and Russia have indicated they will not.

What a shock to see China and Russia lined up against us.

NATO said it will discuss Friday what role the alliance may take.

The main rebel bastion Benghazi erupted with fireworks and joyful gunfire late on Thursday after news spread of the passing of the UN resolution, which approves "all necessary measures" to impose a no-fly zone, protect civilian areas and pressure the veteran Libyan leader into accepting a ceasefire

The most important prerequisite to imposing ‘a no fly zone’ is taking out the opposition’s ‘command and control’ system. Given that Colonel Kadhafi is at the head of Libya’s command and control system, why not start by killing him?

Just think of the lives and treasure that could be saved if a cruise missile would quickly find its way to his tent? We have the technology.

Kadhafi’s son Seif al-Islam on Friday said his family was "not afraid" but warned foreign air strikes would kill civilians.

"We are in our country and with our people. And we are not afraid," Seif al-Islam told ABC News Nightline from Tripoli.

"We will not be afraid. Come on! We will not be afraid. I mean, you are not helping the people if you are going to bomb Libya, to kill Libyans. You destroy our country. Nobody is happy with that." …

We agree. We should simply wipe out his father and him and their inner circle, and see if that doesn’t do the trick.

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, March 18th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

20 Responses to “France: Strikes On Libya ‘Within Hours’”

  1. GetBackJack says:

    Hosing Qadaffi with an A-10 is called for under any rubric of normal rules of Human Decency.

    But involving ourselves in these “spontaneous democratic uprisings” is going to bite us in the ass, and maybe in the throat. This is dumbness cubed.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      GBJ, you will note that it’s France, the UK and a few others taking the lead on this. And, largely, it’s posturing. It is highly doubtful that France would mobilize anything, hoping that threats would do the trick. The US is a spectator and it was not the US initiating any UN action or votes. I know, I know, usually it’s the US that does that…but…..see my post in the “news selected” about the who/what/where.

      The AP reported yesterday that barry the wunderkinder came up with the idea all on his own. The BBC reported that it was the UK, France & Lebanon that went to the UN, with “US support”. That’s where Obumbler is comfortable, on the sidelines, critiquing.

  2. GetBackJack says:

    Well, the US Sixth Fleet is ours. The others may talk a good game, but it’ll be our Naval Flight Operations who do the work.

  3. Liberals Demise says:

    FRANCE?
    Ooooooh…….that’s rich!
    The Internationally known, “Surrender Monkeys”.
    They are probably ironing their white sheets as I type.

  4. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Let me be the first—Hysterical voice rant—-ON

    They’re only going there because of oil and because they are trying to force freedom down the throats of poor, innocent people (and children). They are imperialistic war-mongering bastards and they’re always meddling in the affairs that don’t concern them. It’s only because of their greedy desire to power their Vespas and Renaults that is making them do this. If they would adopt a more green way of doing things, they wouldn’t need so much oil, which really belongs to the Libyans anyway and they’re stealing it. All because of the way the Libyans treated them after WWII they have a grudge against Europe. And especially Italy because Mussolini was unable to hold Libya during the war…they now seek to “finish the job”. Oh, it’s all so apparent…Clearly the UK, French and all the other Europeans were lied to by their government. Based on those lies, the UN OK’ed a no fly zone and attacks on soverign Libyan soil. Well, they are all a bunch of Hitlers.

  5. tranquil.night says:

    “The most important prerequisite to imposing ‘a no fly zone’ is taking out the opposition’s ‘command and control’ system. Given that Colonel Kadhafi is at the head of Libya’s command and control system, why not start by killing him?

    Just think of the lives and treasure that could be saved if a cruise missile would quickly find its way to his tent? We have the technology…

    We should simply wipe out his father and him and their inner circle, and see if that doesn’t do the trick.”

    The S&L Doctrine. Easily applicable to UN Resolution 1973: “All Necessary Measures.”

    Somebody go to the corner store and get this man a peace medal!

    Edit: (Still resisting the urge to make other certain Domestic analogies..)

    • tranquil.night says:

      Okay, can’t help but succumb to mischevious Id after seeing this:

      He [Gadhafi] said he had sent a message to Obama defending his decision to attack rebel cities: “If you found them taking over American cities by the force of arms, tell me what you would do.”

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42164455/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

    • canary says:

      Gaddafi’s “message to Obama defending his decision to attack rebel cities: “If you found them taking over American cities by the force of arms, tell me what you would do.””

      Obama is hoping Gaddafi believes Obama washed his hands and behind his ears and went on family vacation as a sign, that he told allah, he would do as the people said, but wants allah to accept his washing and be forgiven.

      Do you suppose Gaddafi sees mixed messages from Obama. He tells the world after meeting with Obama that Obama is a true muslim. What does Obama say behind closed doors if he publicly bows to the King of Saudi Arabia and claims muslim heritage and upbringing.

      Did Obama tell Gaddafi to bare with him that he plans to follow Gaddafi’s footsteps and never step down and be King for more than 44 years and make Sharia Law the law of the U.S.? Will Obama order republicans to dig up their Christian relatives graves and move them to whatever land we run to.

      President Bush reined Gaddafi in, and Gaddafi shut down his weapons of mass destruction. Now
      Gaddafi is dealing with what he believes is a U.S. muslim president, extremely weak in stopping Sharia Law. Obama lived with an illegal middle-easterner in NYC while attending Columbia.

      When Obama gets the chance to speak with Gaddafi or get a message to him it will be to pat Gaddafi on the back for his willingness to be martyred. Obama will tell Gaddafi he’s sorry. But, that he (Obama) had to look at the big global plan, and do the Koran pretense and deception of not being a muslim, under the pressure of the U.S. or he might not win a 2nd term. And that in the end, the head choppers will see heaven in the end and one must be willing to be a martyr and not be afraid. And so Gaddafi can’t fault Obama. Obama has encouraged radical revolutionary actions his entire life as Gaddafi has. Muslims really take the cliche, all is fair in love and war, up a notch.

      Gaddafi threatened he will burn Libya if he goes down.
      I respect France for banning Sharia Law and putting an end to Gaddafi.
      taking Gaddafi down.

    • tranquil.night says:

      “President Bush reined Gaddafi in, and Gaddafi shut down his weapons of mass destruction. Now Gaddafi is dealing with what he believes is a U.S. muslim president, extremely weak in stopping Sharia Law…

      When Obama gets the chance to speak with Gaddafi or get a message to him it will be to pat Gaddafi on the back for his willingness to be martyred. Obama will tell Gaddafi he’s sorry. But, that he (Obama) had to look at the big global plan, and do the Koran pretense and deception of not being a muslim, under the pressure of the U.S. or he might not win a 2nd term…”

      This in particular segways with some comments I want to make on Tony Blair’s piece today, which is solid analysis and policy perspective for leaders (and potential future leaders), on both why we’re there and where we should want it going.

      http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3478817/Tony-Blair-We-cant-watch-peoples-hopes-snuffed-out-by-tanks-and-planes.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

      There are two competing visions. One represents modernising elements who essentially want to share the freedom and democracy we have. The other represents Islamist elements who have quite a different concept of how change should go.

      I am not “demonising” the Muslim Brotherhood or ignoring that they too have their reformists. But there is no point in being naive.

      Some wanting change want it because they regard the existing regimes as too pro-Western. Their solutions are a long way from what would provide modern and peaceful societies.

      Our policy has to be very clear – we are for modern, democratic change, based on the principles and values intrinsic to democracy. That does not just mean the right to vote, but the rule of law, free speech, freedom of religion and free markets too.

      Uh, with respect to Mr. Blair, who certainly has applaudable credentials here – but perhaps he missed it when lil’ Barry went into “Let Me be clear” mode and explained that were explicitly NOT in Libya to advocate for such an outcome. I mean, has he never heard our President speak in two years? Freedom of Religion? Free markets?! You need to stop hanging around Tea Party wingnuts, sir.

      But the point is that we could very well be taking a rich oil nation from one lone madman and giving it to a growing Islamist bloc, and I’m becoming more convinced by the hour that’s precisely what the true cover for this operation is. You have to take Obama’s actions in the region in tandem.

      – Ignores Lebanon.
      – “Misses”/ignores Tunisia, a reasonably Democratic uprising, which for lack of Western support sees the Muslim Brotherhood ascendant.
      – Over-reacts and overplays Egypt, abandoning a solid regional ally who was moving towards reform, despite an abundance of evidence to suggest the need for precaution. Muslim Brotherhood ascendant, revolutionary protest movements emboldened regionally. Yemeni/Bahrain Sectarian protests ignite.
      – Dithers on Libya, a unique case in that it’s a got a relevant history of violence and threats towards America. The moronic and yet still probably untrue excuse is that he was under the impression that sanctions and some harsh words would solve the situation. Meanwhile, his Secretary of State is telling him the world is ready to go to war but nobody knows where the crap America and Obama are.. Well, 20 bucks says the Bamster was trying to convince Daffy to get the hell out of dodge because there was nothing he could do to protect him from “the tightening of the noose” anymore.

      It’s all in his actions, and his inactions. And what’s worse is that it’s being exploited by the fact that it’s political reality that our engagement must remain short and limited. “Yeah, Daffy’s gotta go, but once he’s gone so are we; enjoy your newest territory, New Ottoman Empire. We’ll see you withinin the next decade for the showdown. Or, at least, the Western military will be back. Allah be praised, I’ll be sippin’ Cosmopolitan’s in Hawaii, Indonesia, Brazil.. wherever.”

    • canary says:

      Well, Gaddafi practices strict Sharia Law, and of course the muslim brotherhood and radical muslims will try to take over. But, Gaddafi is filthy rich, has had plenty of time to prepare for a day to step down. Move to Africa where he’d be treated like a King.

      I think it’s bizarre that Obama hates the wealthy in the U.S. but adores all these leaders who live in golden palaces with golden toilets, and servants to bath them, while the little people live in poverty and misery.
      It’s very clear by different news sources that Gaddafi is using human shields.

      When Gaddafi threatens to burn his country out of retaliation if he’s booted, it shows he’s an animal.

    • canary says:

      AP: Anti-war protesters arrested near White House

      By Eric Tucker Mar 20 2011

      WASHINGTON — More than 100 anti-war protesters, including the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers, were arrested outside the White House yesterday in demonstrations marking the eighth anniversary of the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

      …supporting Bradley Manning, the jailed Army private suspected of giving classified documents to the website WikiLeaks.

      There was little talk of the U.S. missile strikes against Moammar Gadhafi’s forces in Libya on Saturday, part of an international effort to protect rebel forces.

      …Hundreds of protesters attended the rally and marched around the White House, but the crowd — which included many military veterans — … As officers moved in with handcuffs, one protester who clutched the gates outside the White House shouted, “Don’t arrest them! Arrest Obama!”…!”

      Authorities said 113 protesters were arrested, processed and given violation notices for disobeying an official order.

      … said U.S. Park Police spokesman David Schlosser. “A couple had to be carried, but altogether a polite and orderly crowd.”

      entire story
      http://www.eagletribune.com/worldnational/x449497979/Anti-war-protesters-arrested-near-White-House

      See how easy it is for Obama to be a tyrant & arrest war veterans who had a small protest while he campaigns.

      yet Obama praised huge disorderly rowdy crowds of thousands union thugs who expressed themselves, and held a capital hostage.

      se people deserve a break. Obama championed the union thugs 4 week rowdy dirty protest, but war veterans are not allowed to protest for one day. Weird.

    • tranquil.night says:

      I’m really in agreement with Mark Davis’ analysis today.

      Just got about an inches worth of hail on the ground here on the SoCal coast. Closest thing to snow seen here in decades. More of that global warming for us.

    • proreason says:

      I don’t know what Mark Davis said today, but I suspect it is the same as virtually every other conservative pundit, which is that Qaddafi Duck is evil and the US has a moral obligation to intervene.

      But they all ignore reality.

      The reality that Obama is the leader of the country. Frankly, I think anybody who supports what he does about ANYTHING is a blind fool. If China invaded the US, I would call for an immediate impeachment of Obama, followed by an immediate impeachment of Biden…I wouldn’t support the Moron no matter what he did.

      Because there is zero change that what he decides to do would have anything to do with any principle, desire or protection of normal Americans. He NEVER works for us. He ALWAYS works to destroy us.

      So I don’t see how anybody in good conscience could support him, even if the policy is identical to what should occur if a real American was leading the country. Even if it seems ok at face value, I am absolutely sure that there is always always an ulterior motive, and the motive is not to protect and serve the country.

    • canary says:

      That retired Col Peters has been on and went gun ho that we should be put ground troops in Libya after just writing some book about Officers. I don’t think he see’s lowly grunts as human beings. Fox reporter argued with him, but of course an officer won’t take no for an answer. I’m disgusted with whats going in Afghanistan
      to our ground troops

    • tranquil.night says:

      Pro, that reality is key, and you’re right – it’s the angle everyone is missing, because it’s still taboo to acknowledge. I still agree with your original assessment that ‘he stumbled into the right approach’ with regards to the coalition, but in doing so after such critical time had passed – and by showing such public weakness even after commiting to the operation, with the political spin and mixed messages on the objectives coming from the allies – complicated the situation exponentially, presenting the near lose-lose in which we find ourselves.

      I tried to make your point too in my response to Tony Blair a couple posts above. I happen to agree with the “what comes next” policy objectives he lays out, and within that context I also agree with Davis – whose main point is that like it or not, this IS our fight, the West does have very serious interests in influencing the outcome of the Libyan conflict, and almost every country on fire right now, because each one could potentially be a new front on the war of terror even IF we do nothing.

      But again, all of this misses what is the crucial reality. There is no confusion over what the mission is, what’s confusing everybody is that the mission isn’t about, or seemingly even concerned with standard VICTORY. It’s not what we’re after, Cowboy Obama made it very clear by saying we’re advocating no outcome except that the government cease hostilities.

      The endgame could and odds are will be any number of the likely worse-than-before scenarios. Our interests aren’t being protected here because our President doesn’t believe we have that authority, and I doubt the Euros have the will at home to see it through either. Day 2 and our so-called Arab league allies pick up Libyan govt propoganda to denounce and smear us. Now, Day 3 of a crucial operation to bring stability to the region and the German media is looking to torch the American military and drive an already loony Arab region even battier with their “newly leaked” photo onslaught? Can we say “suckered” or what?

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      It’s as if Obama stood around looking to see what everyone else was doing and went along with the cool crowd. You see this behavior in teenagers. Parents ask, “Why did you do that?” and the teenager responds, “I don’t know! Leeemmmeeee alone!”

      One can be sure that Obama did not do this out of any strong sympathy for suffering civilians. He did not do this to face off with Ka-Daffy. He did not do this to defend the United States against any possible military action that might threaten her. He did not do this because he has an overwhelmingly feeling of responsibility to allow citizens of a foreign nation the opportunity to try for freedom.

      Regardless of whether it was the right or wrong thing to do, one must examine Obama in the proper context for his motives, which as yet remain unclear. But one can also be dead-nuts certain that he sees something good in it for himself and himself alone. Whether he thinks it will make him look strong in the eyes of some, or many, is unknown. As I mentioned, he is currently playing with fire and as I said two years ago, he’s gonna piss everyone off, including those in his own base. He is now there. The left-wing freakshow is having visions and speaking in tongues as I write this. They are not ready to call him Hitler just yet but they are having serious suspicions about their Nobel winning halo’ed archangel of peace. To say the bloom is off the stem is an understatement.

      The issue about going to congress for permission may be twofold. I am not a constitutional scholar so I’m unsure of the actual, correct, legal procedure…but look how much trouble it caused when Bush went and got permission from congress, and then Hitlery and Kerry et al said that “Bush lied, people died”. Well, Barry knows how to deal with such possibilities: Don’t ask for permission in the first place. That way, nobody can blame him for “lying”, so it would seem. I’m just familiar enough with his apparent thought process to believe this to be a very real possibility under “barry-logic”.

      The second element of not getting congressional approval is the New World Order aspect where Barely Obama sought only UN approval, and in so doing made it apparent that the US is now kow-towing to international law uber alles. Our own procedures in-house matter not. What matters (to him) is what the rest of the world tells the US to do. This pleases him. PLUS…the added benefit of when the A-rabs start blasting the US for “killing civilians” (as they already are) then he can say, “You folks (he loves that word “folks”) need to yell at France and the UK before you yell at me.”, (notice “me” instead of “the US”?) “Um….those….guys were dropping more bombs than we did and …..uh……stuff…..and we hardly did any damage at all.”

      So, as with everything obama…..as it unfolds and gets analyzed, the truth is on its way. Sometimes his actions are revealing right away. This time, not so much but as I said, it’s all about three things: Obama, Obama, Obama.

  6. JohnMG says:

    “…..Kadhafi’s son Seif al-Islam on Friday said his family was “not afraid” but warned foreign air strikes would kill civilians.”…..

    I’ll bet even money now that it makes little difference to the Libyan people whose air strikes kill them. They’d probably prefer not to die in ANY air strike, so where was ol’ Seif al-Islam last week when his old man was sending out the planes?

    You know, something else really bothers me. Why is it that these Middle East dictator turds have their adult sons still living at home like K’Daffy Duck and Saddam Who’s Sane did?

    Strange!

  7. canary says:

    I agree with Steve. This is a time where bombing Gadaffi’s palace and get those eating dinner and serving him. Those that survive may sing “ding dong the warlocks dead”, but I doubt it.

    Who stops the U.S. from doing the smart thing. The same Obama who was against destroying Saddam Hussein & his family.

    Obama seeking out and embellishing Gaddafi. No one else is trying to shake the bloody foaming hands of who Reagan labeled the Mad Dog of the Middle East. Maybe there is something to the Hindu/Muslim Obama practiced in Indonesia that man took on the powers of whatever he ate.
    “…dog meat (tough),snake meat (tougher)….” as Obama put it. I imagine touching gives some kind of power.

    Why is only Obama seeking and handling the toilet Gaddafi at this summit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwSTru7pA70&feature=related

    Midnight Rider music back ground to the hand shake.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIYI2nL4UdQ&feature=related.

    If Hitler were alive today … Obama would embrace him too.

  8. artboyusa says:

    Meanwhile, at Fort Pétain, the airbase outside of Paris, the telephone rang on the Duty Officer’s desk.

    Nrrrrrrr! Nrrrrrr! Nrrrrrrrr! it murmured softly, in that sophisticated Continental way.

    “Oui? Who is it who speaks? Monsieur le President! How may one be of service? Libya? Tripoli? Strikes of the air? Jawohl, mein Fuhrer – I mean, oui Monsieur le President – it shall be as you order! We shall launch with ferocious instaneity sometime today… or tomorrow at the very latest”.

    The grim-faced officer grabbed the microphone and pressed the “parlez vous” button. “Attention all pilots! Man your planes! Notre patrie has called us to action in Libya. Your mission: deliver an attack most devastating !”

    In the Ready Room Jules et Jim looked up from their card game.

    “Eh? What is it that he says?” asked Jules, gagging and wheezing as he expelled a cloud of acrid cigarette fumes.

    “A mission of some kind, evidently”.

    “Hmmph. Et quel heure do you make it?”

    “12.35 and a demi-minute”.

    “That’s five minutes and a demi over my statutory 35 hour work week”.

    “Moi aussi”.

    “Pffft – no mission, then” shrugged Jules.

    “Pffft” shrugged Jim.

    “Pfftt” shrugged Laval, the squadron mascot.


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