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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-138013</link>
		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold the presses, isn&#039;t a lot of Canadian power generated by hydro, like in Niagara Falls, the shredded wheat power.

No carbon used there, except in the generator brushes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold the presses, isn&#8217;t a lot of Canadian power generated by hydro, like in Niagara Falls, the shredded wheat power.</p>
<p>No carbon used there, except in the generator brushes.</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137590</link>
		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,Pete, that was a &quot;very outdated EPA article&quot;, and said nothing about doing a clean up of regular light bulb.  And don&#039;t even get me started on how pathetic and worthless the EPA is. 
Here&#039;s the latest. 
Not just mercury but &quot;radioactive&quot; electricity comes out of a CFL lightbulb.  

http://www.nowpublic.com/health/dangers-energy-saving-light-bulbs-cfls

further many concerned customers are reporting to GE about CFL lights 
white coloring, smoking, and foul oder. When this occurs in an &quot;unbroken&quot; 
CFL light bulb is causing hazardous toxic phosphor in the air. It causes cancer, mental problems, etc.    

What&#039;s really scary is all these new rules that all these CFL bulbs even if they &quot;don&#039;t break&quot;, have to be treated like Hazardous waste.  As far as &quot;old&quot; light bulbs, I could find nothing on them having to be treated as Hazardous waste, taken to Home Depot etc. etc. or you will have to save them for periodical pick-ups you will pay your garbage collecters.

 And when the old lightbulbs can be used til 2012,  I could not find one site that tells of the dangerous in broken ones, how to dispose, clean up, and so if they were as dangerous, they&#039;d be telling people they must treat them the same as CFL. ince they will be used til 2012. They would defintely be telling people to do this, so they would switch immediately to CFL.  
This is so comparable to the FDA and  pharmacutical companies. New medications are barely tested, and checked before being given to the public. And why do the new CFL&#039;s cost so much. 
It&#039;s like the FDA approving new prescriptions left and right. I always check the interent. One med I was given I first looked on internet, had only been tested on 1000 people for a short period.  I mean look at the commercials that name side-affects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,Pete, that was a &#8220;very outdated EPA article&#8221;, and said nothing about doing a clean up of regular light bulb.  And don&#8217;t even get me started on how pathetic and worthless the EPA is.<br />
Here&#8217;s the latest.<br />
Not just mercury but &#8220;radioactive&#8221; electricity comes out of a CFL lightbulb.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/health/dangers-energy-saving-light-bulbs-cfls" rel="nofollow">http://www.nowpublic.com/healt.....bulbs-cfls</a></p>
<p>further many concerned customers are reporting to GE about CFL lights<br />
white coloring, smoking, and foul oder. When this occurs in an &#8220;unbroken&#8221;<br />
CFL light bulb is causing hazardous toxic phosphor in the air. It causes cancer, mental problems, etc.    </p>
<p>What&#8217;s really scary is all these new rules that all these CFL bulbs even if they &#8220;don&#8217;t break&#8221;, have to be treated like Hazardous waste.  As far as &#8220;old&#8221; light bulbs, I could find nothing on them having to be treated as Hazardous waste, taken to Home Depot etc. etc. or you will have to save them for periodical pick-ups you will pay your garbage collecters.</p>
<p> And when the old lightbulbs can be used til 2012,  I could not find one site that tells of the dangerous in broken ones, how to dispose, clean up, and so if they were as dangerous, they&#8217;d be telling people they must treat them the same as CFL. ince they will be used til 2012. They would defintely be telling people to do this, so they would switch immediately to CFL.<br />
This is so comparable to the FDA and  pharmacutical companies. New medications are barely tested, and checked before being given to the public. And why do the new CFL&#8217;s cost so much.<br />
It&#8217;s like the FDA approving new prescriptions left and right. I always check the interent. One med I was given I first looked on internet, had only been tested on 1000 people for a short period.  I mean look at the commercials that name side-affects.</p>
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		<title>By: beautyofreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137576</link>
		<dc:creator>beautyofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t forget, they want to mandate lead testing on all toys - including those sold from vintage shops. :P

Oh, the insanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t forget, they want to mandate lead testing on all toys &#8211; including those sold from vintage shops. :P</p>
<p>Oh, the insanity.</p>
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		<title>By: beautyofreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137575</link>
		<dc:creator>beautyofreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, low flow toilets - the bane of my existence. Why can&#039;t carbon hounds regulate their own energy and water usage, donate to Al Gore&#039;s scam (carbon) credit company with their own private dollars, instead of imposing their goals onto us ? 

Last year I disassembled my shower head to increase the pressure and flow beyond what the environmentalists allowed. It is soooo much better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, low flow toilets &#8211; the bane of my existence. Why can&#8217;t carbon hounds regulate their own energy and water usage, donate to Al Gore&#8217;s scam (carbon) credit company with their own private dollars, instead of imposing their goals onto us ? </p>
<p>Last year I disassembled my shower head to increase the pressure and flow beyond what the environmentalists allowed. It is soooo much better now.</p>
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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137572</link>
		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, I do use a few CFLs. But only for those bulbs that are a real pain to replace.&quot;

I &quot;also&quot; use them up where the air is rare and in desk lamps so I don&#039;t feel the heat on my hands, summer and winter.  And for the, I hope, long life.

Any one who has been using incandescent lights for part of the heating system must have his lights on all the time and if he was rational would have already converted to flourescent to save on energy costs.

Use what you want to.

That sums it up I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, I do use a few CFLs. But only for those bulbs that are a real pain to replace.&#8221;</p>
<p>I &#8220;also&#8221; use them up where the air is rare and in desk lamps so I don&#8217;t feel the heat on my hands, summer and winter.  And for the, I hope, long life.</p>
<p>Any one who has been using incandescent lights for part of the heating system must have his lights on all the time and if he was rational would have already converted to flourescent to save on energy costs.</p>
<p>Use what you want to.</p>
<p>That sums it up I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Grzegorz</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137556</link>
		<dc:creator>Grzegorz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The psychological toll of living nine months of the year cooped up with florescent light.&quot; 

Well, I was in the Submarine Service for 8 years and 4 months. That count? Oh, it was nuclear powered. Can&#039;t have that now, can we, comrades! All power (electrical and otherwise) to the Soviets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The psychological toll of living nine months of the year cooped up with florescent light.&#8221; </p>
<p>Well, I was in the Submarine Service for 8 years and 4 months. That count? Oh, it was nuclear powered. Can&#8217;t have that now, can we, comrades! All power (electrical and otherwise) to the Soviets!</p>
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		<title>By: DGA</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137553</link>
		<dc:creator>DGA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda like the arguement over the hybrid cars using less fuels over their lifetime, but cost more from new to landfill than a GM Suburban does. And the jury is still out over how to dispose of the massive battery buried in the midships of those lefty appeasers. Still, if it helps libs sleep at night, I guess there is a small benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda like the arguement over the hybrid cars using less fuels over their lifetime, but cost more from new to landfill than a GM Suburban does. And the jury is still out over how to dispose of the massive battery buried in the midships of those lefty appeasers. Still, if it helps libs sleep at night, I guess there is a small benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Gladius et Scutum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gladius et Scutum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Most men stumble over the truth now and then, and most of them pick themselves up and hurry off like nothing happened&quot; - Winston Churchill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most men stumble over the truth now and then, and most of them pick themselves up and hurry off like nothing happened&#8221; &#8211; Winston Churchill</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137549</link>
		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but it is my understanding that incandesants will be outlawed by a certain date.  Can&#039;t remember what that date was tho.

Someone have the facts on this deadline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but it is my understanding that incandesants will be outlawed by a certain date.  Can&#8217;t remember what that date was tho.</p>
<p>Someone have the facts on this deadline?</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137548</link>
		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colonel, the mercury in these things followed by the hazmat issue has been my complaint all along.

I&#039;ve seen those &quot;disposal rules&quot; before.  If it wasn&#039;t so serious and idiotic it would be funny.  The length alone would make you laugh.

Who&#039;s going to want to do all that? Over a single LIGHTBULB?

We have dimmers all thru our house.  Most of the time they are on very dim...there by saving energy.  You can&#039;t use dimmers with the &quot;screwy&quot; light bulbs.  

You have to wait for them to warm up, so if you are just going into a room for a moment or so, you will be in the dark the whole time or you will wind up just leaving them on so you don&#039;t have to wait for them.

 Kind of like Kind of like &quot;low flow toilets. They use 30% less water per flush, but you have to flush them twice.&quot; as BannedbytheTaliban said.

How stupid are these people?  They&#039;d trip over a dollar to save a dime and can&#039;t see further than their own noses.

We are going to stockpile the old favorite incandesant bulbs!

The world is going nuts!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colonel, the mercury in these things followed by the hazmat issue has been my complaint all along.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen those &#8220;disposal rules&#8221; before.  If it wasn&#8217;t so serious and idiotic it would be funny.  The length alone would make you laugh.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s going to want to do all that? Over a single LIGHTBULB?</p>
<p>We have dimmers all thru our house.  Most of the time they are on very dim&#8230;there by saving energy.  You can&#8217;t use dimmers with the &#8220;screwy&#8221; light bulbs.  </p>
<p>You have to wait for them to warm up, so if you are just going into a room for a moment or so, you will be in the dark the whole time or you will wind up just leaving them on so you don&#8217;t have to wait for them.</p>
<p> Kind of like Kind of like &#8220;low flow toilets. They use 30% less water per flush, but you have to flush them twice.&#8221; as BannedbytheTaliban said.</p>
<p>How stupid are these people?  They&#8217;d trip over a dollar to save a dime and can&#8217;t see further than their own noses.</p>
<p>We are going to stockpile the old favorite incandesant bulbs!</p>
<p>The world is going nuts!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137541</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps pp should turn on more lights so he can read the posts properly, Steve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps pp should turn on more lights so he can read the posts properly, Steve!</p>
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		<title>By: Right of the People</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137523</link>
		<dc:creator>Right of the People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing about CFL&#039;s, you can&#039;t use them with a dimmer switch.  2/3rds of the switches in my house are dimmers (there when I bought it) and it&#039;s getting to be a pain in the butt to find incandescent bulbs in the stores around here.

10-7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing about CFL&#8217;s, you can&#8217;t use them with a dimmer switch.  2/3rds of the switches in my house are dimmers (there when I bought it) and it&#8217;s getting to be a pain in the butt to find incandescent bulbs in the stores around here.</p>
<p>10-7</p>
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		<title>By: artpa</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137522</link>
		<dc:creator>artpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use them almost completely, volts run high here and replacing the bulbs was driving me crazy... i have 15 foot ceilings and most lighting is in fixtures... I have only had one of them blow out in a year as opposed to every single light in 3 months before with 130v bulbs. Complaints.. they are dimmer, sometimes taking minutes to get up to their brightness, which is less than the replacement watts they say. Not instant on, and they make you look yellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use them almost completely, volts run high here and replacing the bulbs was driving me crazy&#8230; i have 15 foot ceilings and most lighting is in fixtures&#8230; I have only had one of them blow out in a year as opposed to every single light in 3 months before with 130v bulbs. Complaints.. they are dimmer, sometimes taking minutes to get up to their brightness, which is less than the replacement watts they say. Not instant on, and they make you look yellow.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel1961</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colonel1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nor mine, just a harmless barb...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor mine, just a harmless barb&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what happened to Faraday, and probably Newton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what happened to Faraday, and probably Newton.</p>
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		<title>By: 1sttofight</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/green-bulbs-more-emissions-in-cold-climes#comment-137512</link>
		<dc:creator>1sttofight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Colonel,
I will gladly watch two women do whatever they want to do. But I will be damned if I watch a liberal wimp lick a light bulb.  ;)

That does not crank my tractor.

Sorry for the misspelling, I never could spell or salute very good.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Colonel,<br />
I will gladly watch two women do whatever they want to do. But I will be damned if I watch a liberal wimp lick a light bulb.  ;)</p>
<p>That does not crank my tractor.</p>
<p>Sorry for the misspelling, I never could spell or salute very good.  ;)</p>
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