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HHS: 1/2 Have ‘Preexisting Conditions’

From a water-carrying Washington Post:

With House set to debate healthcare, government finds up to half of Americans under 65 have preexisting conditions

By Amy Goldstein
Tuesday, January 18, 2011

As many as 129 million Americans under age 65 have medical problems that are red flags for health insurers, according to an analysis that marks the government’s first attempt to quantify the number of people at risk of being rejected by insurance companies or paying more for coverage.

The secretary of health and human services released the study on Tuesday, hours before the House plans to begin considering a Republican bill that would repeal the new law to overhaul the health-care system.

How convenient. And, of course, we believe everything Ms. Sebelius says. Still, why didn’t they get the CBO to tell them what they want to hear, while they were at it?

But think about this claim. We are told that currently US health insurers will not take on anyone with a pre-condition. And now we are told that half of Americans have ‘pre-existing conditions.’ So—how is it that anyone has health insurance?

If these two things are true, then half of Americans should be without health insurance.

A vote is expected on Wednesday. But while Republicans may muscle through a repeal bill in the House, its prospects are slimmer in the Senate, where Democrats and independents will enjoy a 53-47 majority.

Do you recall the Washington Post talking about the Democrats ‘muscling through’ Obama-care? We don’t either.

The new report is part of the Obama administration’s salesmanship to convince the public of the advantages of the law, which contains insurance protections for people with preexisting medical conditions

In other words, this is shameless propaganda. They will tell any lie to sell their snake oil.

The study found that one-fifth to one-half of non-elderly people in the United States have ailments that trigger rejection or higher prices in the individual insurance market. They range from cancer to chronic illnesses such as heart disease, asthma and high blood pressure

So why shouldn’t people who have conditions that are going to cost a lot more to treat have to pay more for their insurance? Don’t people with bad driving records have to pay more for their car insurance?

The smaller estimate, by Health and Human Services Department researchers, is based on the number of Americans whose medical problems would make them eligible for states’ high-risk pools – special coverage for people denied insurance because of their medical history.

These are the same "high-risk pools" that nobody is joining. Because this is a manufactured problem. A ‘solution’ in search of a problem.

The researchers arrived at the larger figure by adding in other ailments that major insurers consider a basis to charge customers higher prices or to exclude coverage for some of the care they need.

Using those two definitions, the study took 2008 findings, the most recent available, from a large federal survey of medical expenditures to figure out how many people had reported that they were bothered by those health problems, had visited a doctor for them or had been at least temporarily disabled because of them.

That is to say, they threw in everything plus the kitchen sink to get the numbers that administration demanded. Just like the ‘non-partisan’ CBO does for their Democrat masters in Congress.

The study is laced with reminders about provisions of the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act – as the health-care law is formally known – that are designed to eliminate insurance problems for such people

But it’s not propaganda. No way.

By the way, it’s supposed to be against the law to use federal government funds to propagandize to US citizens. Not that this administration is bothered by little things like that.

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, January 18th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

12 Responses to “HHS: 1/2 Have ‘Preexisting Conditions’”

  1. P. Aaron says:

    Obamacare = Bad Medicine

  2. tranquil.night says:

    The Republicans have to answer to the American people on this sooner than later, because they are the one’s that’ve left themselves open to this BS line of offensive by saying they’re supportive of pre-ex laws in their post-repeal reform plan.

    I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt that they have their own work-around that isn’t a mandate, but if they are just playing politics, then they need to understand that the people won’t budge on this. Flat out mandated insurance for pre-existing conditions is no longer insurance.

  3. Right of the People says:

    Of course half have pre-existing conditions because the drug companies keep inventing diseases like Irritable Bowel Syndrome and the like because they just created a drug to treat it.

    We are all suffering from Irritable Obama Syndrome but there isn’t a drug in the world powerful enough to get rid of it.

    • untrainable says:

      Thorazine. Of course the drooling and the inability to stand or keep your eyes open could be considered a downside.

    • proreason says:

      “Irritable Bowel Syndrome”

      ROP, you are one of the first, other than myself, to have said something like that.

      I think many diseases are actually “life”.

      Foods with a lot of acid destroy your stomach, so your body gives you heartburn to let you know that something is wrong. So what do we do? We invent medicines to counteract the symptoms so the acid can continue destoying your stomach. Then we invent something to fix the stomach, and that causes other problems

      Alchohol destroys your liver, so your body gives you a clue called “hangovers”. So what do we do? We tell people who ignore the clues they are sick, which gives them permission to continue destroying their livers.

      Now we are in the process of declaring that overeating is a disease so that people who don’t overeat can pay taxes to treat people who do overeat so the overeaters can continue to eat without the social stigma that used to prevent many of them from abusing their bodies.

      There are only a few hundred examples of this phenomenon.

  4. proreason says:

    Isn’t death a pre-condition?

    By the logic of idiots, my heirs have to be paid by the gubamint when I die if I failed to buy life insurance.

    But of course, it isn’t about insurance at all, is it?

    It’s about controlling the public.

    The czars (both pre and post Romanov’s) were excellent at that.

  5. wardmama4 says:

    Got an email on the Constitutionality of Obamacare (long, it is 4 pages) it was ‘checked’ by Snopes so here is the link.


    It is worth a read (linked to entire email at Snopes)

    However this much is worth it:

    I could write many more pages about this
    legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health
    care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the
    Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to “be
    bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution.” If I was a
    member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or
    anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or
    affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people
    would hold me accountable.

  6. GetBackJack says:

    The last time a government chose to eliminate insurance problems for people with pre-existing conditions …

    “Adolf Hitler didn’t launch national socialist health care in Germany. It began in the latter part of the 19th century under Otto von Bismarck, ironically as part of his “anti-socialist” legislation. Bismarck, like many of today’s U.S. politicians, believed introducing a form of what I call “socialism lite” would stave off the more virulent forms of the disease.

    The Weimar Republic that preceded the Nazi takeover had already witnessed the transformation of the German health-care system from one focused on individual practitioners and individual patients to one more concerned with general public health. Prevention became the watchword. Doctors became more like state functionaries concerned with the nation’s general health than individuals accountable to patients for health care.

    When a worldwide economic crisis hit in 1929, government expenditures for health care were slashed as were those for public housing, welfare payments and creation programs. The government health-care system began to apply cost-efficiency calculations to medical treatments.

    The first victims were those considered weak and “unproductive” to the interests of the state. The eugenicist ideas of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger, a hero of today’s collectivists promoting socialized medicine, were studied and adopted by the Germans. Charles Darwin’s notions about “survival of the fittest” were applied to social engineering policies.

    Before Hitler ever came to power, Germans were already euthanizing or sterilizing large numbers of the mentally ill and the mentally retarded.

    Just as today’s American Medical Association embraces socialized medicine, so did its German counterpart support the Nazi expansion of state manipulation of medical care for state purposes.

    One of the first Nazi-era laws was the “Law for the Prevention of Progeny of Hereditary Disease,” which prohibited reproduction by those deemed “genetically inferior.” With it came the institution of a “Genetic Health Court” of judges and doctors which determined who should be forcibly sterilized based on the state’s extremely limited knowledge of genetics.

    By 1935, Nazi Germany was performing forced abortions up to the sixth month of pregnancy. Thousands of handicapped children were killed by pediatricians under the direction of Ernst Wentzler at the German Children’s Hospital in Berlin. Other medical researchers, including the infamous Josef Mengele, used the children in their own gruesome and torturous experiments.

    Ultimately, of course, all this desensitization to state-approved and state-conducted murder and mayhem led directly to genocide – the attempted systematic destruction of the Jews in Europe.”

    (hat tip, Joseph Farah, WND)

    • BigOil says:

      Once the state controls your physical being, its need to control your mind becomes much less important. This is one of the primary reasons why Obamacare must not survive.

      As an example of desensitization to government intrusion, watch the people in an airport compliantly being herded through the nude body scanners, taking their dose of ‘harmless’ radiation. Remember the initial uproar – not so much anymore.

  7. P. Aaron says:

    1/2 have ‘Pre-existing Condition’ I think the Dems over-estimate their voter-base.

  8. canary says:

    Insurance will have to pay for transvestites operations & treatment in transforming them. The transvestites are claiming they have a medical condition, and they are different that gays & bi’s.
    They have the gall to say it is not cosmetic surgery as insurance doesn’t cover.

    This will be a situation in which the military must ask those applying for entrance to the Armed Services what their sex they are. If they allow a man dressed as a woman enter as a man, then they could be liable for
    at a minimum hormone treatment for the man. Or vice versa.

    Quite a mess, a selfish mess, Obama and the butt kissing Dept of Defense’s Bill Gates have spent so much time at the worst time, focusing on sex. period.

  9. Tater Salad says:

    Does Obamacare cover “Hypocrisy”? If it does then every Democrat should apply within for treatment because they are the biggest loosers in America right now and again in 2012. Beginning January, 2013 reality will set in that the unemployment line is quite long.

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