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HHS Hid Negative Report Until After Vote

From The American Spectator:

What Lies Beneath

By The Prowler on 4.26.10


The economic report released last week by Health and Human Services, which indicated that President Barack Obama’s health care "reform" law would actually increase the cost of health care and impose higher costs on consumers, had been submitted to the office of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the Congressional votes on the bill, according to career HHS sources, who added that Sebelius’s staff refused to review the document before the vote was taken.

"The reason we were given was that they did not want to influence the vote," says an HHS source. "Which is actually the point of having a review like this, you would think."

The analysis, performed by Medicare’s Office of the Actuary, which in the past has been identified as a "nonpolitical" office, set off alarm bells when submitted. "We know a copy was sent to the White House via their legislative affairs staff," says the HHS staffer, "and there were a number of meetings here almost right after the analysis was submitted to the secretary’s office. Everyone went into lockdown, and people here were too scared to go public with the report."

In the end, the report was released several weeks after the vote — the review by the secretary’s office reportedly took less than three days — and bore a note that the analysis was not the official position of the Obama administration…

We have to say that we are not surprised.

But we are still appalled.

This is not quite the ‘open government’ we were promised.

This article was posted by Steve on Monday, April 26th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

25 Responses to “HHS Hid Negative Report Until After Vote”

  1. wardmama4 says:

    “The reason we were given was that they did not want to influence a negative vote,” says an HHS source.

    There fixed as it should read in a sane world – where the MSM actually reported the news as news not as an agenda.

  2. proreason says:

    Heads will roll.

    The whistleblowers’ heads.

  3. jobeth says:

    I am SO shocked! I would never have believed Obalmy and crowd would be so underhanded!….’PoP’!….Back to the real world………..

    “This is not quite the ‘open government’ we were promised.”
    How does this bunch face themselves in the morning? I wouldn’t be able to look myself in the mirror if I were them….but then I’m a human with morals and a good moral compass.

    There are so many underhanded things about this bunch it’s got to be hard to chose which one to examine first.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      How does this bunch face themselves in the morning?

      Perhaps rhetorical jobeth, but there is a mechanism at work here. It struck me yesterday when I saw a piece on “belonging and inclusion”. The human mind, lately more than ever, is not only naturally inclined to want to belong, it is also being trained by society that belonging is more important than anything else. For awhile, and the way I was raised that “go along to get along” is not necessarily the best way to do things. To do so is to often ignore common sense, logic and the ability to think independently.

      But more than that, and I’ve mentioned this before. To many in power, it’s about winning. Perhaps due to a misaligned sense of competition but you can see it, like I did, in, of all things, car salesmen. They don’t care how they did it, and the dealership doesn’t either. What’s most important is that there is a top salesman. You can identify that person by the odd personality, chameleon-like skin tone and tendency to join conversations and agree with …well….everyone, or have them think they do.

      The most common label people place on such people is “weasel”.

      Politicians have this affliction in varying degrees but currently what we have are people like Reid, Pelosi and so on who are caught up in the momentum of shoving it down the throats of conservative Americans and especially the republican party, which….seems (I say this cautiously) to be waking up to the reality of it. But they have been just as single-minded at times.

      Then, take that most of them are trained as lawyers and if you ever have the opportunity to talk to lawyers, especially litigation lawyers, they live for the competition, like a good game of poker. At the base of it, the client’s predicament has almost nothing to do with it. It’s about winning. It’s about being so good at what you do that you rack up a record of winning. Justice is just a peripheral issue. In this regard they are much like car salesmen.

      Make the sale. Win the case. It’s often as simple as that. However, given the complexity of the human mind, and that it operates on many levels, the car salesman/lawyer may actually be very good at working with people and listening and perhaps even getting the customer/client to think they are “on their side”. I often noticed in my divorce and other things that when I had to contact an attorney, they were often quite good at comforting me that my side is “just” yet while I was alone and thinking about things, I didn’t feel particularly connected to them as a fellow human-being. I realized, of course that the issue was that I simply needed to protect myself to the best of my ability, not necessarily make a buddy.

      So it is with our government. People vote for these criminals because they fail to see that the “representative” is really only in it for themselves and instead think they have a “fellow spirit” in that person. The reality is what we see; When that representative candidly speaks about their own constituents in a negative way.

      I submit that ALL politicians have a degree of this personality trait. How they got into office matters not. The point was to win. Then, they enter into the groupthink and pecking order of their own party and fall in line. It is more important to go along with the group than it is to do what’s right. That way they can get re-elected, so they’re told.

      Politics is one of the most repulsive human behaviors I have ever been exposed to. I’ve hated it all my life. From the days when I saw teachers levy favoritism on fellow students to dating choices, etc.

      But, I also understand human frailty and why this happens. To say I don’t “politic” at times is to say I’m something other than human. I am, however, aware of it and actually work to try to avoid it, rather than justify it. I know what “fair and unbiased” actually means…not just what it appears to mean.

      I figure if I can do it, as simple as I am, then why is it so hard for other human beings to completely ignore that they do it to such a degree?

      That’s what has me angry and frustrated; The inability of people in power to actually admit they are being the way they are because they simply cannot ignore it. Instead they come up with all these “explanations” we’ve heard since the beginning of time.

      I was taught at a young age to be self-critical which naturally evolved into being able to see beneath the veneer of others. How many times I’ve had people say to me, “You know, you were right about so-and-so. At first I didn’t understand why you didn’t like them…and after what you said, it made me mad. But you were right. I didn’t see it at first, but you were right”.

      It’s not that I revel in the ability. And there have been times when, not to be negative, I went along and it has almost every-single-time caused me harm.

      So when I said, after seeing/hearing the boy for 15 minutes, I said, “he’s bad news…he’s gonna work to destroy this nation”. People laughed at me. Except those who I work with who also have military backgrounds, are of the same generation (and before) as me who know crap when they hear it, who hate car salesmen, who really don’t like lawyers and for all the same reasons I stated at the beginning of this long-winded post.

      Kids today are being trained to ignore their instincts. I instead say to my kids, “don’t let your instincts rule your behavior but don’t ignore them either”.

      The way I was taught. Years ago. When schools encouraged critical thinking and to “think outside the box”. When they encouraged innovation, creativity and self-reliance.

    • proreason says:

      “To many in power, it’s about winning”

      Super post. Many insights.

      Is there a difference in the techniques used to acquire power by Jim Jones, Charlie Manson, Adolf HItler and Barack Obama, (other than the degrees of violence employed by the 3 who have completed their crimes and the one who is still in power)? Didn’t they all establish cult-like organizations based on “us” vs “them”? Didn’t they all replace settled tradition and law with authoritarian rule with themselves as the sole arbitrer? Didn’t they all have zombie-like followers who were so throughly brainwashed that they would do anything the master dictated? Didn’t those messiahs promise impossible things, and when those things didn’t happen, didn’t they just promise more fantastic things to come? Didn’t all of those self-styled leaders attack the norms of society and attempt to create an alternate reality that promised “hope” and “change”.

      We aren’t in a situation that bears any relationship whatsover to the 230 years of this country’s history. The closest thing is the fantasy world Roosevelt created in the 1930’s, but in the end, he did everything he could do to defend this country. We are so far removed from him now that it’s impossible to conclude that Obama’s supporters are anything other than cult-followers.

    • Dupree says:

      Rusty, you connect with me in every post. Your words echo my frustrations with people everyday. Sometimes I wonder if I’m just wired differently. It is comforting to think that other people process the world in the same way. I am 29, and I have seemingly grown up in a world so full of BS, that at times I don’t know what is true or how to find the truth. I’ve thus become cynical of all things, and it saddens me. I keep hope that with age and experience, I too will be able to see through the madness, the complexities of personalities and their motivations, with confidence.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Dupree, we’re not alone.

      Thanks for the vote of confidence but I do try to avoid cynicism, though so much happens in day-to-day ops to just make me bite my lip. I do not consider myself anything beyond “average” but with that “different wiring” of which you speak.

      I like peace and quiet in a world that seems to revel in making noise.

      I believe that “my rights end where someone else’s nose begins” and yet it frustrates me when others don’t adhere to that little ditty. I try not to get in people’s way, interrupt, be too loud, etc. All things my parents were responsible for teaching me, only to find that my “peers” have no such qualms against acting like selfish dolts.

      Then, come to find out that there are those even more anal, but in a really ridiculous way because they’ve elected to cling to the liberal ways which, to me, never held water and also tend to disintegrate in any breeze greater than five knots.

      Then, the short-circuit in my brain really goes wild because even when you point out failure after failure after failure, they will cling to their opinion for fear of “not belonging”.

      Well, I’ve “not belonged” since at least my days in high school when all the bleeding hearts and so on wanted me to put money toward buying a tree. I said, “We live in the friggin FOREST, you twit..why would I even need to buy a tree?”. The answer was “It’s symbolic”. To which I wrote on a piece of paper, “One dollar”. And said, “Well, here’s a symbol of some money then”.

      Indeed, as my grandparents said, “If people would spend the majority of their time working on their own problems, of which there are plenty, they wouldn’t be trying to tend to the woes of the world and by and large, they’d most likely take care of themselves”.

      Wilie Nelson sang, “Why don’t you mind your own business and you won’t be minding mine”.

      Liberals….it’s as if they will deflate and shrivel up like a carnival toy if they can’t have a “cause”. Much of which seems geared towards their need to belong. I was raised somewhat as a misanthrope. I detest what the crowd is doing simply because so many people are doing it. But it’s usually because they’re doing it for all the wrong reasons.

      American Idol? Phagh! I’ll put in an old episode of Lost In Space before I watch that. At least I know it’s bad TV and always will be.

      Every advertisement I hear, read or see….not buying it. You can’t make me. I don’t have the “best cellphone plan money can buy” because I don’t have a cellphone, period. I never wanted to be that accessible.

      Doesn’t mean I’m going to go live in the woods and build bombs, no. Of course not. I just want to go into a place without someone handing me a flyer, asking me to “save the orphans or the whales or the speckled three-toed ground sloth, etc.”

      I don’t want sales calls at dinner time..or anytime, come to think of it.

      I don’t want to hear yet another car dealer screaming at me to see these incredible deals every time I try to listen to the radio (Satellite radio has been great, but the first time I hear a commercial..and they will come….I will cancel)

      Add to all this, the left’s inability to understand that people crave and love freedom. Ask any prison inmate.

      Don’t tell me what to eat, when to eat it and how much. Don’t tax my vices ( I neither drink nor smoke….so….I love that they don’t get any of my money that way).
      Don’t keep sticking your fingers in my paycheck to pay for another welfare mom who has three kids, no education and is a total burden to society raising three more burdens. Sounds cruel? Well, you haven’t seen cruel til you’ve seen the end result of a mother on crack with three kids in prison.
      Money does NOT fix society’s woes.
      Money does not help the poor become better off.
      Money cannot fix anything.

      Parenting, responsibility, measured thought, being careful, not rushing, not being impulsive, reigning in ones desires, etc etc.

      Parents largely stopped teaching such things years ago…and teachers followed suit.

      I don’t know how to fix any of it but I DO know not to let myself fall into the traps of the “I’m better than you because I fight deforestation”.

      AM I perfect? No….never will be. But I know where my shortcomings lay and sometimes I am reminded of them. Forced to be critical of myself, if you will. Humility.

      Liberals lack any degree of humility, honesty (except the relative kind) and ability to recognize a failure when they see it. In that regard, I have no hope or desire to help them or change them. So you will see me, if I build a house next to liberal, build a maximum legal-height wall to avoid any contact with them.

      As I see it, it really is “us vs. them” though I didn’t start it. I used to think they were entitled to their opinion but I’m almost 50 and have no tolerance for their BS anymore. When in walmart and some moron told me I didn’t have the right to look at his kid like that (who just ran into me) I asked him to define “right” and where he gets that information from.

      So he proceeded with a slew of insults and swears and “called me out”. I laughed in his face. No time for morons.

      And largely, that’s what we’ve come to in the U.S. Morons who’ve been told by the education system how “valuable they are as a person” but not understanding that they’re still stupid. That people who work and earn don’t like giving it to dolts like him and their how-many welfare cases. That I came up from nothing and everything I have, good and bad…is mine. Keep your mitts off of it.

      I never dump gas or chemicals down the drain; Don’t think it’s right to harm nature if it can be avoided but do NOT tell me to go buy a Prius because you’re better than me for doing so. My answer is and always be “bite me”.

      Some see me as surly, cranky, unpleasant but they would be surprised to see me in an environment with my friends who feel as I do and who think as I do.

      But my tolerance for the way things are turning out is at an all-time low. The way this regime is operating, unchecked and unfettered is getting to me. The fact that this “president” is an impetuous child who has no skill at anything especially bugs me and when it comes to the “leaders” in congress, etc, it’s even more maddening.

      When BHO intimates to the American people “Who do you think you are?” I say “Right back atcha, Mr Boffo”. Were it not for your lack of a shiny red nose and great big shoes, I would have sworn the president was replaced by a 1950’s era clown. And not a very good one at that.

      I do hope that people like you and me, and so many like us, hit the polls in November but for candidates that really can undo the spell we’re under. For after all the arguments and logical presentations that Johnson’s, Carter’s Clinton’s ideas never worked…you cannot sway the touchy-feely utopians from the planet Ignorant to get them to change. Instead, we have to find a way to get good government in spite of them.

      Sadly, I never took hippies seriously in the 60’s and 70’s. Now they run the show and are every bit as screwed up as they were then. And when you try to run the government based on a new, hip feeling….it fails, man.

      Sorry for the long post, as usual. But I’m mad as hell and I don’t want to take it anymore.

    • AcornsRNutz says:

      Everything you just said is eerily like what I have been saying for years. I am only 26 (tomorrow) but your thoughts, espescially that “us vs them” feeling has followed me since I can remember. And lucky for me, the “us” I am a part of has almost no entry requirement apart from not wanting to be one of “them”. Luckily when the screwed up system they have created inevitably flounders and craps out, myself and certain others who feel similarly will be fine, and without a titular head these other dolts will dissapear into irrelevance.

    • Dupree says:

      Thanks again Rusty. Cynicism has become an armament against the world for me, and I don’t forsake it. In truth, I am only saddened in that rare instance that the target of my cynicism actually turns out to be just trying to help.

      I live life as a pariah. I am a child of the technology age, yet I have disdain for most social networking gimmicks. (S&L excluded!) I refuse to buy any clothing with a team name or a brand name label brandished upon it. I do not volunteer my opinions in public because there is always some idiot who will get in your face about something. I would be more likely to do a project on my own than do the group thing, not because of any need for glory or individual praise, but because it was the most efficient way to get it done and done right. I cherish living independently.

      I grew up cautiously and always tried to make the right decisions, only taking calculated risks. (A little danger is fun now and again but that’s outside the scope of my point) It seems that most times when I let my guard down, I get burned. That’s why I get so pissed when I see someone live their life so frivolously, whether its making bad financial decisions or driving like a maniac or what have you, and they never seem to get the stick. These days, and especially with this administration, it seems people are being rewarded for being a twit. Nobody is accountable for anything anymore, fingers permanently pointed away.

      You listed some of the building blocks of good character and you’re absolutely right. My parents had no money in my youth, but they had strong blue collar Christian values, and I know I am a better man for it. It’s just when the insanity of the world weighs down on you, you think to yourself, “I wonder if ignorance really is bliss?”

      Happy Birthday AcornsRNuts!

  4. BigOil says:

    The ends justify the means.

  5. MinnesotaRush says:

    Well it’s clear then that o-blah-blah and his gang will lead the charge repealing his legislation as it actually HARMS the American people; and of course, we know, they wouldn’t want any part of that!

    This fraudulant batch of maneuvering and manipulating basta_ds are utterly repulsive.

  6. AcornsRNutz says:

    This article almost goes without saying. But for all who believe the end of NakedEmperor & Co. is just a few scott browns away come Nov need to continue to bombard yourself with stuff like this. The game is changed and the rules mean jack. Fortunately, the tea partys etc are getting coverage now, and this means that conservatism is going mainstream, by degrees. Remember, the vietnam era hippies got a lot of bad press at first too. Now they run the country. Every time another scandal that may seem patently obvious to regular conservative bloggers breaks, more and more American Idol watchers pour out their kool-aid.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Hear, hear.

    • AcornsRNutz says:

      Not to kiss hindquarters for the sake of it, but a hear hear from one of the posters I respect as much as you is greatly appreciated. I like to think that occasionally I get something right.

  7. Right of the People says:

    Just one more thing to write down for their trials. May they all burn in infamy.

  8. Reality Bytes says:

    The “Open” in Government they refer to is the American Taxpayer’s Vein.

    Stop the madness! Indict them! Remove Them! Just Don’t Ignore Them!

  9. crate says:

    The list is so long for how many lies this administration has done. The list for truths…….crickets!

  10. Liberals Demise says:

    Yup……….doing the job after the fallout.
    Lets’ not forget to mean mouth the American public for demanding accountability.

    What a bunch of Sour nut sissies!

  11. TwilightZoned says:

    “The reason we were given was that they did not want to influence the vote,” says an HHS source.”

    And this surprises who, exactly? (rhetorical)

  12. DoctorRock says:

    Rusty, you do go on. But I’m thinking (as always) that your answer is simpler than you think. The social contract will unfortunately protect vermin like lawyers and car salesman, and by extension politicians. Their ilk have seen to it that the odds of scoring a justifiable homicide decision are on par with winning the lottery. I have a copy of Das Kapital with a foreword written by Vladmir Posner (you know, Phil Donahues co-host) that argues that that enviable standard of living that was enjoyed in our country in the fifties and sixties was directly attributable to the violence generated by Russian peasants in 1917. It’s a very convincing argument. Essentially, the “Haves” saw what happened to their Slavic counterparts and figured it was better to cut the little guy a break than risk more of the same. So here I am, quoting Communists, to illuminate you. I rather like like being illuminated. You know where the word “politics” comes from, yes? “Poly” means “many”, and ticks are are a blood-sucking scourge. So “Politicians” (which includes attorneys and car salesmen) will do what they will until they have a very real sense that one of their marks will quite likely shoot their ass all over a wall. These are the dark days, Amigo.
    This is the part where it gets worse before it gets better. We’re less that six months out from putting some 100+ “duly elected” representatives on unemployment, so let us keep our eyes on the prize. The pendulum is gonna swing back real hard, then we’ll have a new morning in America. And if that fails, the social contract will break down, and in the ensuing anarchy they’ll find a lot of lawyers and car salesman (i.e. politicians) in alleys and ditches, and there’ll be a new morning in America. I’m not talking out my ass, Rusty. I have it first hand from my Dad, who witnessed these behaviors during the occupation of Germany. When the hostilities ended, American soldiers were all MPs, and they found a lot of bodies. And our Founders only echoed Socrates –
    our species craves freedom. Forgive me for not inserting a paragraph tag, but I saw your post as an impassioned plea. Yes, we have a lot of people in this world who aren’t right. And no, we’re not allowed to kill them. If you could drive over the Robert Moses Bridge on a holiday weekend, and see the insanity that would be occurring Long Island’s Great South Bay, you would never again think like that. You would realize in an instant that people can ruin anything. But I rather think that our beloved republic has a certain resiliency that will sustain it. Let the bastards do their worst, it will gain them nothing. When things get bad enough, good men step up and fix things. And that is (simply) the way of this world. “Fighting tyranny since 1066”. I just made that up but it sounds good. Their calling the Guard into Chicago and All Sharpton’s in Arizona – smells like desperation to me. Did you catch Obama’s call to arms last Saturday?

  13. Melly says:

    On the same”American Spectator” page it also said:

    The irony of President Barack Obama visiting Beckley, West Virginia, Sunday to read a eulogy at the memorial service for those who died in the Upper Big Branch Mine accident, has not been lost on some White House aides. “If we had our way we’d be mourning the mining industry, not miners,” says a White House aide. “As an environmental issue, we want the majority of these mining related industries just to go away.”

  14. proreason says:

    “And if that fails, the social contract will break down”

    DoctorRock describes Plan B.

    As he says: “When things get bad enough, good men step up and fix things.”

    It’s why the salivating totalitarian overlords are so desperate to disable the second amendment. The Founders were so brilliant that the checks and balances they built in even protected against the most heinous anit-freedom schemes of the 20th and 21st century. The 17th amendment crippled States Rights, four Supreme Court Justices are a wholly owned subsidiary of the one-government marxists and now the criminals are trying to subsume the entire Constitution into a single misapplied phrase from the 10th amendment but still, it’s good to know the people have about 300 million firearms at our disposal.

    They know it too.

  15. Mithrandir says:

    Is there a list of all the arm-twisting, rule-breaking, and underhanded stuff that was done to pass health care legislation?

    Add this new one to the pile, but I can’t keep track of the comedy of errors anymore……

  16. imnewatthis says:

    I’m surprised (but glad) that young people like Dupree and AcornsRNutz can see how crappy everything’s become. Even most people my age (49) don’t seem to acknowledge how much things have changed over the past few decades, or they think everything’s grand because they have their omnipresent electronic gizmos. How true that people aren’t held accountable today, Dupree. Am I the only person who is disgruntled about the new approach to the homeless- shelters are too uncomfortable for them- they are put into apartments ASAP . I feel for homeless children, of course, but they shouldn’t let homeless adults get too comfortable under state care or they’ll just keep taking. I’m becoming a grouchy misanthrope on this issue and the immigration issue, which is wierd because one on one I’m caring and I’m the type who couldn’t hurt a fly. I just feel like Obama and all his liberal followers want to lay the bill for every downtrodden or lazy person in the entire world on the hardworking American taxpayer-and he’s getting away with it, step by step. I so miss the world I grew up in-everybody I knew went to church or temple, but nobody criticized others’ religions. Everybody I knew was pretty law-abiding (except for a little pot-smoking). Men worked and took care of their families. And everybody I knew was patriotic-they didn’t assume our country was the cause of all the world’s problems-far from it.
    I knew no teenage moms, no welfare moms, and no school shooters (possibly because no violent video games and people were taught values).

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