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House Rejects WH March 18th Deadline

From The Hill:

Disconnect: Gibbs, Hoyer dispute vote

By Jared Allen and Sam Youngman – 03/09/10

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and the White House on Tuesday engaged in a rare public dispute over when healthcare reform will be voted on…

Hoyer on Tuesday morning suggested the March 18 deadline recently set by White House press secretary Robert Gibbs was not endorsed by congressional leaders.

“None of us have mentioned the 18th other than Mr. Gibbs,” Hoyer told reporters when asked if March 18 was still a “viable” date for the House to vote on the Senate bill, a package of legislative fixes and a possible third item dealing with abortion language.

Gibbs didn’t back down Tuesday afternoon, saying there “seems to be a disconnect” between Congress and the White House before stopping himself to add, “This was information I was given based on conversations that people had in this building with Capitol Hill.”

He also said, “I’ve been given nothing that would change that advice that I was given last week.”

Gibbs, a former Senate aide, first threw down the March 18 deadline last week, citing President Barack Obama’s desire to sign healthcare legislation prior to an overseas trip he is scheduled to begin that day.

But Hoyer indicated that meeting an “objective” of March 26 — the last legislative day before the House adjourns for a two-week recess — would be difficult.

“Our objective is to pass both [healthcare and the 2010 budget] before the Easter break,” Hoyer said. “Is that going to be difficult? Yes. Is it a deadline? No.

“If we can, we can. If we can’t, we can’t,” Hoyer added. “We will continue to pursue both items.”

After all, ‘healthcare reform’ is important. (124 people die from lack of insurance every day, 45,000 every year.)

But it’s not more important that Congress going on another vacation on time. They haven’t had a vacation since last week.

While it is clear Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill are tired of establishing timelines, critics have noted that had deadlines been kept in 2009, a health bill would have been signed into law long before Scott Brown (R-Mass.) stripped Senate Democrats of their supermajority…

“It’s not a lack of communication,” said a House Democratic leadership aide. “We all share the objective to move as soon as possible, but March 18 is the date set by the White House, not us. We are not working under arbitrary deadlines. We will move forward when we are ready.” …

“Our hope would be that we can finish in an expeditious manner, but the clock doesn’t start ticking in the House until we get a Congressional Budget Office [CBO] score,” said Nadeam Elshami, spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

Hoyer said Democratic leaders hope to send a bill to CBO “soon.” It will take at least  a couple of days for CBO to score the legislation, indicating that a House vote before March 18 is highly unlikely.

Make that ‘impossible.’

Moreover, Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Tuesday that Democrats haven’t begun counting votes for their healthcare bill.

Clyburn, the third-ranking House Democrat who serves as chief vote-counter, said that Democrats are waiting to see the final legislative language.

“When we get that language, we will start our whipping operation,” Clyburn said during an appearance on MSNBC.

Mr. Clyburn has a long wait. In fact, according to Ms. Pelosi, he might not see what’s in the reconciliation bill until after it passes.

Asked whether there was any chance that Obama would delay his planned trips to Indonesia and Australia in mid-March, Gibbs said, “Again, our information suggests that that vote can happen before we leave … we’re planning on and have made plans to leave as scheduled.

After all, ‘healthcare reform’ is important. (124 people die from lack of insurance every day, 45,000 every year.)

But it’s not more important that Mr. Obama going on another vacation on time. He probably has already scheduled his tee times in Indonesia.

House Democrats are at least 10 votes short, according to interviews with aides, lobbyists and a survey of members conducted by The Hill. Some say the number is closer to 20.

A few House Democratic members who were on the fence a couple days before the Nov. 7, 2009 vote are now firm “no”s. Some Democrats who voted yes last fall are now undecided…

Still, isn’t all this squabbling over deadlines funny? Congress has been more than happy to insist on timetables for little things, like withdrawing all of our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

But on really difficult things, like voting for a bill – no way will they be held to a deadline!

Of course, come to think of it, Mr. Obama has never bothered to meet a deadline, either.

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, March 10th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

11 Responses to “House Rejects WH March 18th Deadline”

  1. NoNeoCommies says:

    Gee, they won’t just follow ze Fuhrer’s proclamations?
    Doesn’t the Socialist Democrat Party of America think and act in lockstep?
    Maybe they are too busy treading water as they watch their fearful leader sink along with his poll numbers.
    Perhaps they want to run the clock out so they can claim they did their best.

  2. proreason says:

    “4,000 people die from lack of insurance every day”

    ok, let’s assume that is true for a moment. That means 1,460,000 die annually from lack of insurance….of 30,000,000 uninsured. So, you have a 5% chace of dying every year you aren’t insure? Ludicrous.

    But I recall the bogus data point differently than Steve. My recollection is that they falsely claim that something like 43,000 die annually from lack of insurance. So let’s go with that for a moment. Coverage will cost about 6,000 per person per year. With 30 million uninsured, the cost will be 180 billion to save 43,000 lives, or about 4.5 million per life…to start. Wow. I know you aren’t supposed to put a price tag on a life, but WOW. (of course, the bigger cost will be that hundreds of thousands of seniors will die to “save” 43,000, plus the economy will be ruined forever, plus health care for all will go into the toilet, plus the statists will have us by the throats,…..but I digress).

    Now, how many of the 30 million uninsured do you think would accept $1,000 annually instead of health insurance? My guess is 90-95%. I vote for that. It would save the country 1.5 trillion dollars per decade. (plus seniors would get to continue living.) And since the most sick “uninsured” would probably take the insurance, the bogus 43,000 would probably be cut to about 10,000. Now that’s a deal!! proreason for Health Care Czar!!!!

    • Steve says:

      “4,000 people die from lack of insurance every day”

      Sorry, that was a typo that has been corrected in the article.

    • proreason says:

      If the number is only 124 lives saved per day, and that’s the best bogus statistic they can come up with, then the cost to save each life will be over 40 million per year.

      Now that’s distribution I can live with.

    • wardmama4 says:

      Except that this whole number (die due to lack of insurance) issue is a specious lie. The original study looked at sample group of people in 1987 who had no insurance and checked back 15 years later – those that died in the interim were assumed to still have no insurance at all during that time span and thus were labeled died from lack of insurance no matter what they died of and no investigation was done to see if any time during that period – they had secured insurance.

      Thus it is a bogus study and a bogus number – just as the 30 million uninsured – Rush Limbaugh himself & my Mother were among those who had no insurance – as they chose to paygo, my son is in the no but qualified to have Medicaid list – because here they consider us as making too much money (and we won’t put our son in an assisted living facility just to milk all the gov bennies we can – that is just way beyond cruel) and of course 12 to 20 million of those are illegal aliens – who aren’t citizens and thus shouldn’t even be part of the equation in the first place.

      But to the stupid masses – they need to jack up the numbers to emo the crisis effect to get them on their side of the lie.

      Too bad the new media is shooting down each and every ‘truth’ with the power of, well damn it – the truth.

  3. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Of course, come to think of it, Mr. Obama has never bothered to meet a deadline, either.

    Also, it’s been said that recess was Barry’s favorite class at school, when they could find him.

    • proreason says:

      I posted a clip a few days ago (I think) that has about 20 snippets of the kinglette apologizing for being late to Senate Committee meetings……all delivered with regal calm in his best profound baritone.

      And he was only in Washington for about 100 days prior to beginning his ascent to world’s throne.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Which, come to think of it, kind of throws a critical eye on all those “present” votes.

  4. MinnesotaRush says:

    “Disconnect: Gibbs, Hoyer dispute vote”

    This thing started out laughable – “Disconnect: Gibbs”. How true, how true.

  5. GetBackJack says:

    House: “Hey, we’re not giving birth over here, dammit. Hold yer water.”

  6. Mithrandir says:

    Gibbs is so much the dictionary definition of ‘slim-ball’ I hope they never get rid of him. He is just a slick, slimy, B.S.er that is not believable at all. He is not even smooth about avoiding questions when pressed, he just talks in circles or cuts people off with some smirk and snide comment—I love it! He is the perfect person for this ‘Transparent’ administration.

    It’s like when a horrible coach exists in your team’s conference, you hope he never leaves! (thank you coach Wayne Fonts)

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