Comments on: How The Government Kills ‘Clunkers’ http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:34:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dangerous http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156917 Dangerous Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:54:12 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156917 Because every poor man that somehow manages to claw his way into the middle class is a voter that might leave the ranks of democrat supporters. Because every poor man that somehow manages to claw his way into the middle class is a voter that might leave the ranks of democrat supporters.

]]> By: pdsand http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156916 pdsand Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:30:33 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156916 I keep thinking about this cash for clunkers, and either it's correct what I've heard on the Fox, that this is only giving a handout to middle class people, or this is definitely creating a "car bubble" that will blow up just the same as the housing bubble blew up. Because if this money is being used to subsidize people to buy a car they can't afford then it's creating a whole other problem in and of itself. You think about it, a person can't afford a new car, so he drives an old beatup truck or van or something that gets horrible mileage. Suddenly the government offers money and the dealership offers incentives to buy a new car, so he's enticed into making the deal. If that's really what's happening out there it's a problem. I keep thinking about this cash for clunkers, and either it’s correct what I’ve heard on the Fox, that this is only giving a handout to middle class people, or this is definitely creating a “car bubble” that will blow up just the same as the housing bubble blew up. Because if this money is being used to subsidize people to buy a car they can’t afford then it’s creating a whole other problem in and of itself.

You think about it, a person can’t afford a new car, so he drives an old beatup truck or van or something that gets horrible mileage. Suddenly the government offers money and the dealership offers incentives to buy a new car, so he’s enticed into making the deal. If that’s really what’s happening out there it’s a problem.

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156846 Rusty Shackleford Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:43:48 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156846 Yes, I know that I'm one of many who came right out and said it not weeks ago. Yes, I know that I’m one of many who came right out and said it not weeks ago.

]]> By: Gladius et Scutum http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156843 Gladius et Scutum Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:33:39 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156843 S&L posters are too often scary accurate: The 7,700 authorized disposal sites for the 'clunkers' are called ELVS(end of life solutions) http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,1607,7-135-3585-218860--,00.html S&L posters are too often scary accurate: The 7,700 authorized disposal sites for the ‘clunkers’ are called ELVS(end of life solutions) http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,.....1;,00.html

]]> By: bill http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156836 bill Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:21:02 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156836 Why do Democrats hate poor people? Why do Democrats hate poor people?

]]> By: Nimblicity http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156833 Nimblicity Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:21:04 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156833 1987 560 SEL: $1500 Tune-up and other work to get it safety/emissions legal: $1200 Premium gas and a fuel additive average per month: $115 Driving it to the bitter end just to spite exactly this kind of BS: Priceless. 1987 560 SEL:
$1500

Tune-up and other work to get it safety/emissions legal:
$1200

Premium gas and a fuel additive average per month:
$115

Driving it to the bitter end just to spite exactly this kind of BS:
Priceless.

]]> By: Gila Monster http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156826 Gila Monster Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:08:56 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156826 Ditto SJ, .....???? Ditto SJ, …..????

]]> By: sheehanjihad http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156821 sheehanjihad Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:59:07 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156821 ? ?

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]]> By: sheehanjihad http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156817 sheehanjihad Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:23:53 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156817 Two things...all of the "recycled" car metal is going to China, and it will be dumped in their uber eco friendly smelters belching billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere....yeah, real "green" of ya there, bark eater. Lets eliminate that nasty carbon "here", and then make sure that the stupidity of the idea causes "their side" to replace it into the atmosphere. Bong water is not in short supply evidently. Secondly, that geezer elimination program. While I dont quite qualify for "geezer" per se... I aint far off. So to the people in charge of deciding to euthanize the elderly because they are no longer useful to "society", just remember that trying to do it with me will result in massive lead contamination to the immediate surrounding area in one ounce concentrations. Eugenics experts will dub it the "Mossberg effect". It will be prevalent throughout the country too, I suspect. A great side affect will be the rapid elimination of those whose mental make up causes them to act like drones for the collective. Two things…all of the “recycled” car metal is going to China, and it will be dumped in their uber eco friendly smelters belching billions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere….yeah, real “green” of ya there, bark eater. Lets eliminate that nasty carbon “here”, and then make sure that the stupidity of the idea causes “their side” to replace it into the atmosphere. Bong water is not in short supply evidently.

Secondly, that geezer elimination program. While I dont quite qualify for “geezer” per se… I aint far off. So to the people in charge of deciding to euthanize the elderly because they are no longer useful to “society”, just remember that trying to do it with me will result in massive lead contamination to the immediate surrounding area in one ounce concentrations. Eugenics experts will dub it the “Mossberg effect”. It will be prevalent throughout the country too, I suspect. A great side affect will be the rapid elimination of those whose mental make up causes them to act like drones for the collective.

]]> By: Yarddog1 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156815 Yarddog1 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:05:38 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156815 Update - I heard that this program has been a real winner for Kia and Hyundai. Apparently not many American cars meet the mileage requirements. Well, well, well - now how do you like the program now you UAW members? Update – I heard that this program has been a real winner for Kia and Hyundai. Apparently not many American cars meet the mileage requirements. Well, well, well – now how do you like the program now you UAW members?

]]> By: Colonel1961 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156802 Colonel1961 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:49:36 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156802 This can't be right. That Volvo looks fairly new (e.g. clean, nice) and I would suspect the mileage is above the requirement. Even so, a moronic program of epic proportion... This can’t be right. That Volvo looks fairly new (e.g. clean, nice) and I would suspect the mileage is above the requirement.

Even so, a moronic program of epic proportion…

]]> By: wirenut http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156798 wirenut Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:58:44 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156798 The price of scrap is so low, that those who earn $250.000 a year or less can't afford to kill their elders for "their" fillings. Aaahh! Unintended consequences with do-goiters, leads to such tragic events. Instead of term limits, let's make it less lucrative to be a ca-rear public trough licker. Keep yer lousy $4500, I want my country back! No obamabubble car for me. Provide and pay for your own transportation,security, mailing,etc. JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. Live by the laws that you pass. The price of scrap is so low, that those who earn $250.000 a year or less can’t afford to kill their elders for “their” fillings.
Aaahh! Unintended consequences with do-goiters, leads to such tragic events. Instead of term limits, let’s make it less lucrative to be a ca-rear public trough licker. Keep yer lousy $4500, I want my country back! No obamabubble car for me. Provide and pay for your own transportation,security, mailing,etc. JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. Live by the laws that you pass.

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156795 Rusty Shackleford Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:41:18 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156795 As something of a minor auto enthusiast, I find this extremely wasteful. It's foolish, inefficient and strives only to make a very weak point. From the aspect of auto dealerships that have now been forced to disable these cars, and now you have approximately 250,000 cars that are basically boat anchors and filling up the backlots of these dealerships the question now becomes, "Who will take these hulks?" Wrecking yards may not especially want them as replacement engines are extremely desirable and often one of the first things a wrecking yard will remove and put on the shelves in the warehouse. So that leaves the rest of the car's potential value in interior parts, electrics and trim and body panels. However, doing the simple math, with a useless engine, the investment may not be worth it to most wrecking yards. Therefore, that leaves the GOVERNMENT possibly being forced to pay the yards to take them off the delaerships' hands. In other words, more wasted money. This is to say nothing of the fact that although I get "they" want the cars off the roads permanently, what they are really trying to focus on is the gas-emitting engine. However, a Volvo of that year and model yields around 24 mpg. So, I'm not exactly getting the feel-good warm-fuzzy that this type of program should induce, to say nothing of any warm feeling up my leg. Wasteful. Like when a movie wrecks high-dollar or rare cars for "effect". Now, I can see if it's a 1990 Lincoln that really has run its days. And that it was traded for a uber-mpg roller-skate...then I get the impact. But dumping a 24 mpg car for a 29 mpg car and getting 4500 on additional trade "value" that really is a public subsidy...then I'm afraid the whole thing is lost on me. Once again the utopian idealistic liberals with a pipe-dream that not only ran out of money in one month, but was poorly planned from the outset, poorly implemented, poorly managed, and poorly funded, if it should have been funded at all. And these are the clowns who want to make healthcare "free" and "available" to everyone. What a huge steaming pile. As something of a minor auto enthusiast, I find this extremely wasteful. It’s foolish, inefficient and strives only to make a very weak point.

From the aspect of auto dealerships that have now been forced to disable these cars, and now you have approximately 250,000 cars that are basically boat anchors and filling up the backlots of these dealerships the question now becomes, “Who will take these hulks?” Wrecking yards may not especially want them as replacement engines are extremely desirable and often one of the first things a wrecking yard will remove and put on the shelves in the warehouse. So that leaves the rest of the car’s potential value in interior parts, electrics and trim and body panels.

However, doing the simple math, with a useless engine, the investment may not be worth it to most wrecking yards. Therefore, that leaves the GOVERNMENT possibly being forced to pay the yards to take them off the delaerships’ hands. In other words, more wasted money.

This is to say nothing of the fact that although I get “they” want the cars off the roads permanently, what they are really trying to focus on is the gas-emitting engine. However, a Volvo of that year and model yields around 24 mpg. So, I’m not exactly getting the feel-good warm-fuzzy that this type of program should induce, to say nothing of any warm feeling up my leg.

Wasteful.

Like when a movie wrecks high-dollar or rare cars for “effect”.

Now, I can see if it’s a 1990 Lincoln that really has run its days. And that it was traded for a uber-mpg roller-skate…then I get the impact. But dumping a 24 mpg car for a 29 mpg car and getting 4500 on additional trade “value” that really is a public subsidy…then I’m afraid the whole thing is lost on me.

Once again the utopian idealistic liberals with a pipe-dream that not only ran out of money in one month, but was poorly planned from the outset, poorly implemented, poorly managed, and poorly funded, if it should have been funded at all.

And these are the clowns who want to make healthcare “free” and “available” to everyone.

What a huge steaming pile.

]]> By: take_no_prisoners http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156793 take_no_prisoners Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:47:26 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156793 And WTF!! The car in the video looks like it is practically brand new! There isn't even any dust or grime in the engine compartment. It is fairly small and has nice looking contemporary wheels. I can't believe that they couldn't have gotten more than $4500 selling the car on the used car lot or parting it out if push came to shove. I can't believe that a car like this would even qualify for the program in the first place. And WTF!! The car in the video looks like it is practically brand new! There isn’t even any dust or grime in the engine compartment. It is fairly small and has nice looking contemporary wheels. I can’t believe that they couldn’t have gotten more than $4500 selling the car on the used car lot or parting it out if push came to shove. I can’t believe that a car like this would even qualify for the program in the first place.

]]> By: take_no_prisoners http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156792 take_no_prisoners Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:42:28 +0000 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-the-government-is-killing-clunkers#comment-156792 Obama loves this program. It's a 3-or 4-dimensional win for him and his buddies. They not only get to look like they're doing something for the environment, but they get an immediate boost in orders for new cars. Next up is the conservative christian looking for a good deal on a reliable used van or SUV for their large family--There won't be any! So the union wins again when the family has to buy a newer one which presumably makes someone else buy a new car which funnels money into government motors and their union cronies. The next person up is the young person or the otherwise short on cash and immediate prospects person who is totally priced out of the market for a car as the floor has effectively been set at $4500. These folks will have to take public transportation, car pool with indulgent friends or even more desireable to the Obama crowd, walk or ride a bike! If you can't afford a car you must live in the city instead of a suburb or out in the country. Concentrate the populace in ghettos, they're much easier to watch and control that way. What's not to like. I can see them sitting out back in the rose garden chuckling and patting each other on the back while they congratulate each other on their intelligence and devious mendacity. Obama loves this program. It’s a 3-or 4-dimensional win for him and his buddies. They not only get to look like they’re doing something for the environment, but they get an immediate boost in orders for new cars. Next up is the conservative christian looking for a good deal on a reliable used van or SUV for their large family–There won’t be any! So the union wins again when the family has to buy a newer one which presumably makes someone else buy a new car which funnels money into government motors and their union cronies. The next person up is the young person or the otherwise short on cash and immediate prospects person who is totally priced out of the market for a car as the floor has effectively been set at $4500. These folks will have to take public transportation, car pool with indulgent friends or even more desireable to the Obama crowd, walk or ride a bike! If you can’t afford a car you must live in the city instead of a suburb or out in the country. Concentrate the populace in ghettos, they’re much easier to watch and control that way. What’s not to like. I can see them sitting out back in the rose garden chuckling and patting each other on the back while they congratulate each other on their intelligence and devious mendacity.

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