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Iran Warns US Not To Return Carrier To Gulf

From a cheering (for Iran) Reuters:

Iran threatens U.S. Navy as sanctions hit economy

By Parisa Hafezi
January 3, 2011

TEHRAN (Reuters) – Iran threatened on Tuesday to take action if the U.S. Navy moves an aircraft carrier into the [Persian] Gulf, Tehran’s most aggressive statement yet after weeks of saber-rattling as new U.S. and EU financial sanctions take a toll on its economy.

The prospect of sanctions targeting the oil sector in a serious way for the first time has hit Iran’s rial currency, which has fallen by 40 percent against the dollar in the past month.

Queues formed at banks and some currency exchange offices shut their doors as Iranians scrambled to buy dollars to protect their savings from the currency’s fall.

They are buying dollars from Satan?

Army chief Ataollah Saleh said the United States had moved an aircraft carrier out of the Gulf from because of Iran’s naval exercises, and Iran would take action if the ship returned.

Why did we ever move it in the first place?

It did not name the carrier, but the USS John C Stennis leads a task force in the region, and the U.S. Navy’s 5th Fleet website pictured it in the Arabian Sea last week.

"Iran will not repeat its warning … the enemy’s carrier has been moved to the Sea of Oman because of our drill. I recommend and emphasize to the American carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf," army chief Salehi said.

"I advise, recommend and warn them over the return of this carrier to the Persian Gulf because we are not in the habit of warning more than once."

Gosh they are tough.

After years of sanctions that had little impact, the latest measures are the first that could have a serious effect on Iran’s oil trade, 60 percent of its economy.

New sanctions signed into law by U.S. President Barack Obama on New Year’s Eve would cut off any financial institutions that work with Iran’s central bank from the U.S. financial system, blocking the main path for payments for Iranian oil.

Unfortunately but typically Obama watered down these sanctions. On his insistence a national security waiver was put into this bill, which allows him to withhold sanctions if they could cause the price of oil to rise.

Which, unless the law of supply and demand has been repealed, they will.

The EU is expected to impose new sanctions by the end of this month, possibly including a ban on oil imports.

Sure, that will happen.

Even Iran’s top trading partner China – which has refused to back new global sanctions against Iran – is demanding discounts to buy Iranian oil as Tehran’s options narrow. Beijing has cut its imports of Iranian crude by more than half for January and, paying premiums for crude from Russia and Vietnam to replace it…

Oh, those high-minded Chinese. They are just trying to force Iran to lower their prices, since their customer base is (supposedly) shrinking.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

14 Responses to “Iran Warns US Not To Return Carrier To Gulf”

  1. JohnMG

    I suppose they (Iran) will attack our carrier with our own drone, right?

    How convenient. This smacks of the current administration setting the stage for next fall’s elections. As proreason posited on another thread, either some crisis will have to be handled in the middle east, involving Iran, of course, or the economy in China experiencing a contraction which strengthens our own financial position will enhance Obama’s stature(?) as a tested leader vs. a political neophyte with no foreign policy experience.

    Since Obama has no real influence on the Chinese economy, short of selling them our T-bonds, which they are growing more and more reluctant to purchase, he most certainly must rely on manipulating things elsewhere. Iran is all too willing to engage, and Obama, with his thinly masked Muslim sympathies, will nurture this issue to his own advantage, US be damned.

  2. tranquil.night

    Maybe if we ask nicely..?

  3. canary

    Let’s not forget Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 2012er public prayer in NYC that he could not wait for “Mohammad” to return in in the year 2012. Amadmanjihad will do everything to make it happen.

    While the U.S. get’s their intelligence on Iran’s nuclear bomb progress and today’s capability from Israel
    U.S. leaders and politicians keep to the worn out slogan “we must stop Iran from building a nuclear bomb”.

    Obama is hoping for the U.S. to absorb another 9/11 as he nears his last chance to declare Marshall Law.

    Obama’s backup plan he’s crossing his fingers for is his onslaught of his DOJ “overturning” years and years of many states laws to require Americans to prove their U.S. Citizenship in order to register to vote.

    Obama’s legal crows vicious attack on Arizona which is a major blow to his present attack
    screwing the state of South Carolina out of their voter ID law.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....er-id-law/

    We knew 4 years ago to fix this and progress made prior to that all thrown into the hands of illegals and terrorists.

  4. sticks

    I’m sure the Iranians love all the support they get from China, “with friends like these…”

  5. Mithrandir

    AMERICA’S FAVORITE HOBBY!…the Sisyphean taunting of Iran.

    I just can’t tell if the rock is rolling down the hill, or we are pushing it up the hill this time?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus

    I wonder how many women, in the act of being raped, ponder to themselves, “Gee, Iran may someday have enough enriched uranium to make 1 nuclear bomb! Damn that dove Ron Paul!!!! (shaking fist in the air)

    You STOP THE RAPE BY GOV’T FIRST, then longingly look to far away shores to look tough on foreign policy. I have no idea why Bachmann would waste time on this! Life begins at conception, and is precious and holy, UNLESS you are born in a country we don’t like, and engage in things we don’t like, THEN we are going to carpet-bomb your precious life out of existence at 20,000 ft.—pure nonsense….’c mon people…..

    • tranquil.night

      Your posts have been pure nonsense. This is absolutely incoherent rambling completely devoid of any awareness to the real circumstances of foreign policy. It’s futile for me to try and critique it in an arena of logic. I’m tempted just to try and cut the crap with you and see if you won’t admit that like all Paulbots, what this really is about is those damn Joos who’ve got us playing World Police in the Middle East to protect their invalid little country that should’ve never been created while they sabotage political and economic systems and then run off with the money. Can we save some of the site’s bandwidth where everybody here continually tries to explain to you what every third grader can understand – that there are evil people in the world who want to kill and conquer us and other innocent people for no good reason – and you continually ignore the explanations, and just cut to the chase of what really motivates you and what you really believe is at work here? I’m sick of the theater.

      By the way, Ron Paul is going to fund entitlements through military cuts. Or as Ace put it, he’s going to cripple the state’s ability to fullfill one its few constitutional duties to fund programs that are arguably unconstitutional. Yep, he’s definitely the guy to stop the rape.

      But don’t let the fact that your hero isn’t the principled champion you think he is ruin a good love affair. I’m sure you won’t be undeterred

    • Mithrandir


      ….there are evil people in the world who want to kill and conquer us and other innocent people for no good reason

      UH OH! The Bush Doctrine of preemptive war! –perfect, that worked out juuuust great for all of us. The Roman Empire discovered what relentless expansion got them: larger borders with more enemies on those borders, and eventually a split empire, then bankruptcy / decline, then disintegration.

      Every single Arab/Muslim country fits your Mad-Lib template. You just need to insert the current country that is on the top of the list. If it’s not Libya, it’s Iran, or Iraq, or maybe it’s Pakistan, no? Then it’s Iran again, then it’s the P.L.O. in Lebanon, or Hamas in the Gaza Strip, or it’s Iran again. Perhaps it’s Al Qaida in Somalia? What about the terrorists in Yemen? All through the 80s it was Russia, now it’s hand-wringing over China. –it never ends.

      Wise up. You can still be Conservative, fiscally responsible, protect your friends and interests around the world, but if you don’t plug the leaks in your own boat first, none of that other stuff will matter at all. It seems like Gingrich and Paul realize that, while others have no domestic plan, so they drum-up silly distractions.

      Remember what democrats said about WMDs, and then beat Bush over the head when he listened to them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc

    • The Redneck

      I wonder how many women, in the act of being raped, ponder to themselves, “Gee, Iran may someday have enough enriched uranium to make 1 nuclear bomb! Damn that dove Ron Paul!!!! (shaking fist in the air)

      If they’re being raped in Iran, and they know full well that because of people like you the regime that will probably kill them for getting raped will be around to help somebody rape their daughters, they just might.

      Life begins at conception, and is precious and holy, UNLESS you are born in a country we don’t like, and engage in things we don’t like, THEN we are going to carpet-bomb your precious life out of existence at 20,000 ft.—pure nonsense….’c mon people

      Yes, that WAS pure nonsense. I thought we were done with you Paulbots once his campaign went down in flames (again)?

      UH OH! The Bush Doctrine of preemptive war! –perfect, that worked out juuuust great for all of us

      Considering a lot of terrorists are dead and we haven’t had another major terrorist attack in more than a decade….. yes. Of course, Obama’s currently busy handing away our victories, but he can’t remove ‘em all.

      Meanwhile, if you want to see how well your proposal will work, Google the name “Neville Chamberlain.”

      Every single Arab/Muslim country fits your Mad-Lib template. You just need to insert the current country that is on the top of the list. If it’s not Libya, it’s Iran, or Iraq, or maybe it’s Pakistan, no? Then it’s Iran again, then it’s the P.L.O. in Lebanon, or Hamas in the Gaza Strip, or it’s Iran again. Perhaps it’s Al Qaida in Somalia?

      Whereas you’re wise enough to know that they’re all really harmless little doves who would never hurt anybody except the evil imperialist US forces them to, because it’s not like they’ve been trying to take over the world for the last 1300 years or anything…..

      –All through the 80s it was Russia,–
      Yeah, we inflated the Russian threat for our own ends–Russia wasn’t really a threat to anybody. Just ask a Ukranian.

      Or Czechoslovakian… or Lithuanian… Or Azerbaijanian… Or Chinese… Or Pole… Or Austrian… Or Cuban… Or Vietnamese… Or North Korean (When they say they’ve got some good grass for you, don’t start on your “End the Drug War” kick–they’re offering real grass)… Or Cambodian… Or East German… Or Georgian…

      Wise up. You can still be Conservative, fiscally responsible, protect your friends and interests around the world,

      You can indeed. Libertarian, on the other hand…..

      but if you don’t plug the leaks in your own boat first, none of that other stuff will matter at all. It seems like Gingrich and Paul realize that, while others have no domestic plan, so they drum-up silly distractions.

      Yeah, Bachmann and Perry and Romney (and before them, Cain) don’t/didn’t have any domestic plan.

      Remember what democrats said about WMDs,

      And then remember that they’re full of it.

    • proreason

      This is the primary evidence of the mental instability of the Paulbots.

      There’s a lot more of course, but this is numero uno.

    • canary

      Tranquil wrote “…what this really is about is those damn Joos who’ve got us playing World Police in the Middle East to protect their invalid little country that should’ve never been created while they sabotage political and economic systems and then run off with the money.”

      Israel an invalid country? Israel in on the globe and map, not Palestine funded by other middle-eastern countries who keep bombing and bullying Israel who is learning the handing them land on a silver platter is never going to be enough.

      Israel is way a head of the politicians in U.S. pretending Iran is still in the stages. We get our finest military intelligence high tech military gadgets from Israel who has more schooled engineers in their tiny country than you’ll find anywhere in the U.S. When your priority is decades of survival against
      countries that want to wipe you off the map, then that is the #1 issue.

      Furthermore, Israel’s spies who can speak the language and blend in with the middle-eastern in order to gain intelligence such as Iran’s capabilities far more than the U.S. political leaders will tell; perhaps they don’t want hysteria. Frankly, the candidates are too busy with stupid slogans and bragging they will be the next President than to get into the issues. I will save the economy without explaining how.
      The debates are intellectually at the middle-school level of a popularity contest offering better food in the cafeteria. Don’t take me wrong. Obama accomplished the outrageous regulations on our food we eat.

      Ron Paul has a lot of the most extreme hippy liberals behind him because he gives them what they want. Anyone is better than Obama. Ron Paul who is getting very old and should have let his son run instead, will at least hopefully be held in check. Both Republicans and Democrats show their support that our finest trained U.S. Military elite soldiers with thousands more U.S. troops planned on the way to fight Africa’s many wars by child soldiers getting worse aside their drug addiction and brain washing to kill add the decades of muslims who are far worse than the regrowth of conservative muslim terrorism in Indonesia. Immigration and Defense are so important. Time for the global warming idiots to include Romney & others to realize that nothing is causing more global warming than a religion taking over the world whose orders are to burn every town. And a nuke is more important to focus on than the stupid minnows in California, or the crack in your home that air moves through causing you to use more energy which makes you a global criminal. Good grief.
      Israel if not our only friend in the 3rd world, is mostly likely our best friend in the world. Military wise.

      I’m also sick of America rebuilding and aiding other countries who are not our friends. The U.S. leadership is stupid thinking financially aiding people who hate us will make them like us.

      I’m sick of Republicans going along with the global warming b.s. and giving our money to countries who blow up pipes of oil. Do they really think the world will be around thousands and thousands of years in the future when that terrible plastic starts degrading.
      Get the EPA pencil pushing micro-managers out of their chairs and give them a real job of literally guarding our borders and water sources, and forests.
      My gosh some smiling German starts over 50 fires in California because his German mother isn’t allowed to immigrate here.
      The world is on fire.

    • tranquil.night

      “Time for the global warming idiots to include Romney & others to realize that nothing is causing more global warming than a religion taking over the world whose orders are to burn every town. And a nuke is more important to focus on than the stupid minnows in California, or the crack in your home that air moves through causing you to use more energy which makes you a global criminal.”

      Sing it Canary.

      There are hawks, there are doves, then there’s the ‘Peace’ movement that sympathizes with Islamists and believes the Israel lobby controls our security policy and military establishment

  6. artboyusa

    “Gosh they are tough…” they are, actually. Smart too. They’ve been in an undeclared war with us for thirty years and have run rings around us time and again because they are clear on what they want and they’ll do what it takes to get it and we aren’t and we won’t. Iran’s latest and biggest win has been that our excellently delivered and carefully thought through foreign policy has done for them what they couldn’t achieve themselve in a ten year war, which is to convert their deadly regional enemy, Iraq, into their new best friend and, eventually, their puppet state. Plus, we managed to go broke doing it. Why

    On the topic of our foreign policy, which I’ve described before as a combination of aggression, cowardice, ignorance and wishful thinking, have the results really been so satisfactory that we can carry on without at least questioning some of the premises upon which we operate? Or do we just stumble on; throwing bombs, money and human lives at every problem?

    • tranquil.night

      The premise Conservatives will stand with you on is in rejecting the idea from the last decade that it’s America’s duty once we’ve decimated an enemy to linger around under the auspices of trying to facilitate a Democracy Project in the region when the natives have no tradition or much of a broad desire, ability (or trust?) in making it work. Especially with a political party here domestically who are going to invest in our defeat in order to attain power.

      When it comes to cutting the Pentagon, I think Conservatives are also with the Libertarians when it comes to addressing the inefficient bloat and bureaucratic red tape which makes it slow and expensive to keep our forces on top. But everyone has to understand the Pentagon is the only department which has already taken real budget cuts under Obama. And the world just isn’t any safer to justify going lax on it.

      Where we all might be able to find a lot of common ground is at the stupid, cronyist-statist farce called Homeland Security

      When it comes to foreign intervention, we were mortified when Obama threw Mubarak under the bus, when it came to Gaddafi we felt if it was worth it to put a bullet in his head to do it on the basis that he had it coming from us, not to help Islamists take control of the country through some semi-legal Kinetic Military Action.

      You aren’t going to be able to convince me that Ahmadmanjihad isn’t on the doorstep of nukes though which aren’t intended for existential purposes that have to be stopped preemptively though. The problem is that Obama’s dithering and appeasement is taking all the options but war off the table the more time goes on.

    • JohnMG

      The deliberate absence of a “foreign policy” isn’t a foreign policy. You may quote that.

      To think that our interests in that particular region of the world will improve without our presence or influence is naive. And to abandon our best ally there to their own fate will only contribute to the instability.

      No one denies that we’ve mishandled things in the past, notably by Carter, and even preceeding him. But not being a player isn’t an option.




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