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		<title>By: texaspsue</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150738</link>
		<dc:creator>texaspsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“if anything, I think the opposition is used to draw out the true reformists so that they can be crushed ”

Coming soon to Amerika.  Alinsky&#039;s rules for radicals are alive and well.  sigh.

&quot;good insight. rings true.&quot;

I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“if anything, I think the opposition is used to draw out the true reformists so that they can be crushed ”</p>
<p>Coming soon to Amerika.  Alinsky&#8217;s rules for radicals are alive and well.  sigh.</p>
<p>&#8220;good insight. rings true.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150735</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if anything, I think the opposition is used to draw out the true reformists so that they can be crushed &quot;

good insight.  rings true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if anything, I think the opposition is used to draw out the true reformists so that they can be crushed &#8221;</p>
<p>good insight.  rings true.</p>
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		<title>By: tranquil.night</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150733</link>
		<dc:creator>tranquil.night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s Kabuki theatre. Just like in Obamerika.&quot;

Yep, the media has done this for the entire span.  The whole elections are for show and the opposition to the radicals must remain politically meek if Iranians are going to keep the little Western lifestyle elements they have.  A young and radical opposition is always going to bubble up and attach itself to the most reformist candidate in Iranian elections.  But the opposition leader never represents the true reform he claims; if anything, I think the opposition is used to draw out the true reformists so that they can be crushed by the true radicals.  Freedom really can&#039;t be let to make any headway in a tyranny state; the authorities start losing autonomous control on a slippery slope that can build up speed very fast.  As people are saying: the protests now aren&#039;t really about Mousavi.  Keep that in mind as things move on here with Nerobama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s Kabuki theatre. Just like in Obamerika.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, the media has done this for the entire span.  The whole elections are for show and the opposition to the radicals must remain politically meek if Iranians are going to keep the little Western lifestyle elements they have.  A young and radical opposition is always going to bubble up and attach itself to the most reformist candidate in Iranian elections.  But the opposition leader never represents the true reform he claims; if anything, I think the opposition is used to draw out the true reformists so that they can be crushed by the true radicals.  Freedom really can&#8217;t be let to make any headway in a tyranny state; the authorities start losing autonomous control on a slippery slope that can build up speed very fast.  As people are saying: the protests now aren&#8217;t really about Mousavi.  Keep that in mind as things move on here with Nerobama.</p>
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		<title>By: texaspsue</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150727</link>
		<dc:creator>texaspsue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand from twitter posts, it has become more about voter fraud than the Politician.  According to a tape from Skye news, Mousavi was even expressing that same sentiment.

I say, good for them.  After living their life suppressing their beliefs, it must be refreshing for the Iranians to be able to express their frustration in this manner.  Let them have their day.  Maybe a miracle will happen.   I know, I am a cockeyed optimist.  :-) 

Video from todays protests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9Kgf-cB40</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand from twitter posts, it has become more about voter fraud than the Politician.  According to a tape from Skye news, Mousavi was even expressing that same sentiment.</p>
<p>I say, good for them.  After living their life suppressing their beliefs, it must be refreshing for the Iranians to be able to express their frustration in this manner.  Let them have their day.  Maybe a miracle will happen.   I know, I am a cockeyed optimist.  :-) </p>
<p>Video from todays protests:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9Kgf-cB40" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey9Kgf-cB40</a></p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150726</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s Kabuki theatre.

Just like in Obamerika.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Kabuki theatre.</p>
<p>Just like in Obamerika.</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150722</link>
		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s my understanding that whoever gets in will still need to follow the dictates of the religious leaders in Iran. 

So it doesn’t really make a whole lot of difference in the end. Both are only puppets to a degree .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s my understanding that whoever gets in will still need to follow the dictates of the religious leaders in Iran. </p>
<p>So it doesn’t really make a whole lot of difference in the end. Both are only puppets to a degree .</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bronzeprofessor</title>
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		<dc:creator>bronzeprofessor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this a bit like having the Democratic Congress investigate ACORN? Or the White House reviewing its call records with Blagojevich and finding no inappropriate contact?

I am no fan of Ahmadinejad, but this Moussavi person doesn&#039;t sound great either. He&#039;s ordered a fatwa against his rival and he seems to be sending mobs of thugs out into the streets to throw things at police. (Some of it felt to me, as an LA resident, like a much more violent version of the Prop 8 protests, after Prop 8 won in California.) Moussavi still wants the nuclear program to progress and he was part of the 1979 Revolution, wasn&#039;t he? He declared himself the winner very early, as the votes were still being counted (so did Ahmadinejad, but the vote tallies were in fact favoring Ahmadinejad at that point.) 

Iran is a repressive regime and we should object to it because it is repressive -- &quot;object to it&quot; should probably look like Bush&#039;s attitude, which is, we don&#039;t talk to them until the whole system changes.

But the liberal press seems to be taking great issue with the specifics of this voting process, even though most evidence of fraud seems to be based on the same logic liberals use to say that American conservatives don&#039;t have any broad support in the US. They rely on anecdotal evidence and feedback from people who are likely to like American liberals (like cosmopolitan Teheran college graduates) and then liberal experts say, for instance, that Moussavi could not have lost his hometown so there must be fraud.

Didn&#039;t Gore lose Tennessee in 2000? Remember Geraldine Ferraro, who lost her own neighborhood in Queens by double digits?

I&#039;m just saying....

I have enough reasons to repudiate the Iranian government without having to go nuts about allegations of ballot fraud, which we will never be able to prove or disprove. 

On the other hand, one of the few major objections I have to the United States is our country&#039;s problems with election fraud. So I wish AP would pay as much attention to ACORn as they are paying to Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this a bit like having the Democratic Congress investigate ACORN? Or the White House reviewing its call records with Blagojevich and finding no inappropriate contact?</p>
<p>I am no fan of Ahmadinejad, but this Moussavi person doesn&#8217;t sound great either. He&#8217;s ordered a fatwa against his rival and he seems to be sending mobs of thugs out into the streets to throw things at police. (Some of it felt to me, as an LA resident, like a much more violent version of the Prop 8 protests, after Prop 8 won in California.) Moussavi still wants the nuclear program to progress and he was part of the 1979 Revolution, wasn&#8217;t he? He declared himself the winner very early, as the votes were still being counted (so did Ahmadinejad, but the vote tallies were in fact favoring Ahmadinejad at that point.) </p>
<p>Iran is a repressive regime and we should object to it because it is repressive &#8212; &#8220;object to it&#8221; should probably look like Bush&#8217;s attitude, which is, we don&#8217;t talk to them until the whole system changes.</p>
<p>But the liberal press seems to be taking great issue with the specifics of this voting process, even though most evidence of fraud seems to be based on the same logic liberals use to say that American conservatives don&#8217;t have any broad support in the US. They rely on anecdotal evidence and feedback from people who are likely to like American liberals (like cosmopolitan Teheran college graduates) and then liberal experts say, for instance, that Moussavi could not have lost his hometown so there must be fraud.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Gore lose Tennessee in 2000? Remember Geraldine Ferraro, who lost her own neighborhood in Queens by double digits?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying&#8230;.</p>
<p>I have enough reasons to repudiate the Iranian government without having to go nuts about allegations of ballot fraud, which we will never be able to prove or disprove. </p>
<p>On the other hand, one of the few major objections I have to the United States is our country&#8217;s problems with election fraud. So I wish AP would pay as much attention to ACORn as they are paying to Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: bronzeprofessor</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/irans-supreme-leader-investigate-election#comment-150718</link>
		<dc:creator>bronzeprofessor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, double posted.</description>
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		<title>By: MinnesotaRush</title>
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		<dc:creator>MinnesotaRush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Iran does have their own version of ACORN ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Iran does have their own version of ACORN &#8230;</p>
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