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Krystal Ball: Give Everyone A Minimum Income

Meanwhile, we have this brilliant solution to all of our problems, from Mediaite:

MSNBC’s Krystal Ball: ‘We Could Eliminate Poverty’ with a ‘Mincome’

By Noah Rothman | December 17, 2013

On Tuesday, MSNBC host Krystal Ball devoted a portion of The Cycle to advocating for the establishment of a national minimum guaranteed income. She insisted that research shows such a program does not create disincentives to work and could “eliminate poverty” with merely the stroke of a pen.

After all, how could guaranteeing someone a livable income be an disincentive to work? Still, let’s hope the Democrats get behind this. George McGovern came up with a similar plan in 1972. And it helped him lose in an even bigger landslide.

Ball began by highlighting protest movements around the world advocating “for what sounds like a radical idea: Guaranteeing every citizen a monthly minimum income, or what some supporters call a ‘mincome.’”

She said that the gravity of the issue of income inequality in the United States has prompted American lawmakers to consider a similar proposal.

An issue of such gravity that it doesn’t even register on polls about important issues. Gallup says it is a top ‘economic’ issue with 1% of the public.

“The basic concept is simple,” she continued. “Every non-incarcerated adult citizen gets a monthly check from the government. Other safety net programs are jettisoned to pay, and poverty is eliminated.” …

Ms. Ball seems to be unaware that incarcerated people already get an income.

“We tend to think of poverty, homelessness, despair as inevitable but mincome makes you realize — in a country as rich as ours — we allow those outcomes as a choice,” Ball concluded.

“We could decide to eliminate poverty and it wouldn’t even take a Christmas miracle to do it.”

And the government could just print the money. Why didn’t we think of this?!

This article was posted by Steve on Wednesday, December 18th, 2013. Comments are currently closed.

4 Responses to “Krystal Ball: Give Everyone A Minimum Income”

  1. GetBackJack says:

    That can’t be her real name

  2. captstubby says:

    where have I heard this before?
    the Spanish Civil War is a favorite reference of mine because,
    1 it was the largest gathering of every caliber of Socialists ( not counting a Obama Fund Raiser.)
    2 like what is happening today, it failed because it was a Socialists pipe dream.

    of course the overwhelming majority of the History of Spanish Civil War is so biased in the Lefts perspective (read any ABC/Yahoo story for example.),
    that the actual events are akin to a Labor of Hercules to “fact check.”

    here is a propaganda piece selection that sounds eerily familiar today.

    THE ANARCHIST COLLECTIVES: Workers’ Self-management in the Spanish Revolution (1936-1939)

    Copyright © 1974

    The Spanish Social Revolution.

    Urban Collectivization


    Some kind of family wage became quite common in the Spanish collectives. This wage was assigned to families and varied according to the number of members in a family. It was based on the needs of the family rather than on the product of the family members. The exact nature pf a particular family wage system depended on numerous things (like the relative abundance or scarcity of necessities for a collective or region).

    the anti-fascists boldly introduced radical social reforms. The family wage was instituted immediately, assuring equal pay and equal rights for all. A married couple received 2 pesetas per day, plus one peseta per day for each additional family member. A month later, coupons divided into units of various denominations became the prevailing medium of exchange. Much later, the relative commercial importance of Graus as a trading center made necessary the restoration of the peseta, the official currency of Spain, as the measurement of all outside transactions. But the collective continued to issue its own currency valid in strictly local transactions.


    “I saw many other revolutionary changes. In the converted corset factory girls sewed shirts and underwear for the militiamen while singing revolutionary hymns in honor of Durruti, killed on the Madrid front…. These girls were not obliged to work—they were covered by the family wage—but nevertheless donated their labor for the common cause…. With increased output the family wage had also been increased by 15%. The increase was all the more meaningful when we consider that housing was free, gas and electric rates had been cut 50%, and medical treatment and medicines had been free since these services had been socialized. Men over 60 were exempt from work with full pay but they refused to stay put and insisted on donating their labor where most needed. Full wages were paid to the unemployed, 52 weeks a year. As one organizer in Graus told me, “Work or no work, people must eat… ”

    “What happens,” I ask, “if somebody wants to go to the city for example?”

    “It is very simple,” someone replies. “He goes to the Committee and exchanges his coupons for money.”

    “Then one can exchange as many coupons as one wants for money?”

    “Of course not.”

    These good people are rather surprised that I understand so slowly.

    “But when can one have money then?”

    “As often as you need. You have only to tell the Committee.”

    “The Committee examines the reasons then?”

    “Of course.”

    I am a little terrified. This organization seems to me to leave very little liberty in a “libertarian communist” regime. I try to find reasons for travel ling’that the Alcora Committee would accept. I do not find very much but I continue my questioning.

    “If somebody has a fiancee outside the village will he get the money to go and see her?”

    The peasant reassures me: he will get it.

    “As often as he wants?”

    “Thank God, he can still go from Alcora to see his fiancee every evening if he wants to.”

    “But if somebody wants to go to the city to go to the cinema. Is he given money?”


    “As often as he wants to?”

    The peasant begins to have doubts about my reason.

    “On holidays, of course. There is no money for vice.”

    I talk to a young, intelligent looking peasant, and having made friends with him, I take him to one side and ask him:

    “If I proposed to give you some bread coupons would you exchange them for money?”

    My new friend thinks for a few moments and then says: “But you need bread too?”

    “I don’t like bread, I only like sweets. I would like to exchange all I earn for sweets.”

    The peasant understands the hypothesis very well, but he does not need to think very long. He starts laughing.

    “It is quite simple! If you want sweets you should tell the Committee. We have enough sweets here. The Committee will give you a permit and you will go to the chemist and get them. In our village everybody receives what he needs.”

    After this answer I had to give up. These peasants no longer live in the capitalist system, neither from a moral nor a sentimental point of view. But did they ever live in it?

    The Central Committee in Barcelona, chosen by all the sections, met once a week with one delegate from each section to deal with common problems and to implement the general plan. . . .

    The people immediately benefited from the projects of the health syndicate. The syndicate managed all hospitals and clinics.
    To avoid excessive travelling of sick people to specialized centers, polyclinic hospitals where all these specialized treaments could be given in one place were organized. .. . Where there had been an artificially created surplus of doctors serving the wealthy under capitalism, there was now under the socialized medical system a shortage of doctors badly needed to serve the disadvantaged masses who never before received good medical care….

    When the inhabitants of a locality requested the services of a doctor, the syndicate analyzed their health needs and from a panel of doctors designated one whose training could best serve the needs of the patients. If he refused to go, he must have had very good reasons. If not, he may be suspended. The hospital expenses were paid by the Generalidad (Catalan government) and the municipality. Polyclinic hospitals were built under the auspices of the syndicates and the municipalities. Not all health services could be entirely socialized, but most of the dental clinics in Catalonia were controlled by the syndicate, as were all the hospitals, clinics, and sanitariums. The trend was to substitute the socialized organization of medicine for private practice. Private doctors still practiced, but the most prevalent abuses had been eliminated. The cost of operations was controlled. Payments for treatments were made through the syndicates, not directly to the physicians.18

    In the new clinics, surgery and dental extractions were free. The number of mental patients admitted to asylums for treatment was much greater than before. The old privileged physicians fought these changes, but the younger, less favored doctors voluntarily cooperated with the new organization. Young doctors were enthusiastic.
    All the hospitals’ doctors were paid 500 pesetas a month for three hours work per day. There was no private practice (for them). Since a skilled manual worker drew 350 to 400 pesetas a month for seven hours work per day, the reader can draw his own conclusions.

    “Everything is just fine,” said the secretary of the medical department, a Basque for whom tireless dedication to his work was a moral imperative. “We are now all equal comrades, working together, who esteem and respect each other.”

  3. yadayada says:

    “We tend to think of poverty, homelessness, despair as inevitable but mincome makes you realize — in a country as rich as ours — we allow those outcomes as a choice,” Ball concluded

    apparently this lib isn’t pro-choice

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