“In March 2008 Progress Energy announced that its two new Westinghouse AP1000 units on a greenfield site in Florida would cost it about $14 billion…”

An AP1000 is about 1,117 Mw, that works out to construction/fueling costs of roughly $700k/Mw, vs $6,000k/Mw for the Solar plant. Plus a nuke plant works at night.

Can somebody please check my math?

When will they tune into the fact that 180 acres of solar panels is also enormously destructive to the environment.

If 180 acres can power 3,000 homes and businesses, wouldn’t it take 180 x 100,000 acres to power the country? That’s bigger than 10 states, btw. But really, who needs those little states when you can get expensive clean power that destroys every living thing underneath the panels. Killing that amount of life will also have the wonderful side benefit of reducing our carbon footprint.

And at night, we can use blankets.

“The nation that wins this competition will be the nation that leads the global economy. I am convinced of that. And I want America to be that nation.”

Other companies and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which opposed the Obama-backed climate bill that the House passed, say emissions limits aren’t necessarily required to boost competitiveness. The Chamber advocates tax credits, a “clean-energy bank” to spur investment, and nuclear power, said Karen Harbert, president and chief executive of the Chamber’s Institute for 21st Century Energy.

“Don’t just say, ‘How do we get carbon out of the air?’ ” said James Owens, chairman and chief executive of construction equipment giant Caterpillar.

“That could get the wrong answer.”

(entire fear-mongering article)
http://www.latimes.com/news/na.....2427.story

I think we should focus on a strong defense so China doesn’t take us over.

That’s all.

Davis-Besse Nuclear Generating Station, Ohio
Update: September 10, 2009
Next Update: September 2010

Davis-Besse Nuclear Generating Station
Net Generation and Capacity, 2008

Unit Net Capacity
MW(e) Generation
(Million Kilowatt Hours) Capacity
Factor (Percent) Type On Line
Date License
Expiration Date
1 879 6,823 88 PWR 7/31/1978 4/22/2017
PWR =pressurized light water reactors.
Sources
Description: The Davis-Besse power plant is located in Oak Harbor, Ohio, on a site covering 954 acres. The plant, however, uses only a fraction of the site with 733 acres devoted to a National Wildlife Refuge. If there is one statement about Davis-Besse that both pro- and anti- nuclear factions can agree on, perhaps it is this: the Davis-Besse plant is a survivor. This Ohio power plant has weathered the storm, both figuratively and literally. Davis-Besse suffered a direct hit by a tornado. More serious damage was accomplished without nature’s intervention. The plant was shut down for a full year following the discovery of deterioration of the reactor head (the upper part of the reactor). The discovery led to enhanced NRC oversight of maintenance at the plant, substantial costs and fines. It also resulted shutdowns at other plants to inspect for this type of damage. Davis-Besse has corrected the problems and, as the table indicates, is currently performing near capacity.

221 acres for 879 MW

v

180 acres for 25 MW

Yep, there goes a couple neighborhoods.

Oh yeah, aint Jimmy Carter a nuclear engineer?

As for hailstorms….not very many, and usually pea sized hail at that. The thunderstorms here cant get cranked up like the midwest monsters because they only have about seventy five miles to travel due to the prevailing winds before they hit a beach.

The solar storm is going to be funnier too…..offshore, about fifty miles, lies one of the largest petroleum and natural gas deposits in our country. It sits there too…while the eco turds build reflectors that will give Floridians a whopping .00025 percent of it’s total need. OH ! Yeah, I almost forgot….six people will get jobs too!!

Fantaaaaaaaaaastic! eh? What a dufus administration we are enduring….geeeez.

Also, do you get decent hailstorms in Florida?
SJ?

Yeah, baby!!!

I am reminded of Arco Solar on the Carissa Plains in California. It went bankrupt in just a couple years, IIRC.

You see, allowing Americans to have cheap, efficient energy is less important that saving the world (or the whales or the polar bears or what the hell ever animal the greens are pushing today).

As a side note, Austin, Texas, the San Francisco of the southwest, offered the same deal you got to various businesses in Austin. It was such a bust that the “green” costs had to be passed onto the taxpayers because businesses told Austin Power to get bent.

One other little thing that no one seems to notice; while The One keeps telling us government run health care will be good for all of us and encourage competition, where is the competition in utility companies? I am limited to one power company (owned by the city) and one gas company.

So how has the elimination of competition there made my costs go down?

I’m supposed to pay more in order to increase the demand for wind power? They’re so barking up the wrong tree.