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“9/11″ Zogby Poll Commissioned By Iran

By now you have probably heard of the results of the recent Zogby poll (pdf file), which claims that 42% of Americans believe Bush either caused 9/11 or let it happen.

From Press TV:


Poll: US gov’t knew about 9/11 attacks

Tue, 11 Sep 2007

A new poll indicates that some 43 percent of Americans believe that Washington knew about the 9/11 attacks but did nothing to stop them.

According to the Press TV-Zogby International poll, 42.5 percent of the respondents believed that the Bush Administration knew about the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center but did nothing to prevent the attacks.

Only 37.5 percent of the respondents strongly disagreed with the idea and 4.5 percent neither agreed nor disagreed with it.

Among the members of the armed forces who participated in the poll nearly 44 percent said that the US government had known about the plans for 9/11 attacks with 37.2 strongly disagreeing with it.

The poll also indicates that a majority of Americans (56.3 percent), including the members of US armed forces, support the idea that the Bush Administration used the September 11 attacks as an excuse to push ahead with its own agenda, particularly in the Middle East and only 27.1 percent of respondents disagreed with it.

Some 1006 people across the US were questioned by pollsters and the margin of error was +/- 3.2.

But what you may not have realized is that the poll was “commissioned” by Press TV, which is owned and operated by the Iranian government.

From Zogby International:

Press TV/Zogby International Poll Results

Survey Methodology [Zogby America Adults] 09/06/07 thru 09/09/07

Zogby International was commissioned by [Press TV] to conduct a telephone survey of [adults].

The target sample is [1006] interviews with approximately [82] questions asked. Samples are randomly drawn from telephone cd’s of national listed sample…

From Wikipedia:

Press TV

PRESS TV is an English language international television news channel which is funded by the Iranian government, based in Tehran and broadcasts in English on a round-the-clock schedule. With 26 international correspondents and more than 400 staff around the world, its stated mission is to offer a different and unbiased view of the world events…

This work by Zogby on Iran’s behalf may even be illegal, since American businesses have been restricted from dealing with Iran (pdf file) because of its sponsorship of terrorism. Although some of these sanctions have been subsequently relaxed.

But even if the Iranian sponsorship of this poll wasn’t illegal it is highly questionable.

And of course one wonders what was the purpose of Iran commissioning such a poll at this time in the first place?

And how many polls have they commissioned previously?

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This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, September 12th, 2007 at 12:01 am. You can leave a response.

25 Responses to ““9/11″ Zogby Poll Commissioned By Iran”

  1. SG
    September 12th, 2007 at 3:48 am

    I first posted about this on the news side:

    Poll: US gov’t knew about 9/11 attacks — Iranian/Zogby Poll? | Sweetness & Light - News
    http://sweetness-light-forum.c.....rtNum=1041

    But figured it needed a bit more airing.

  2. Liberals Make Great Speedbumps
    September 12th, 2007 at 4:05 am

    Well that explains quite a bit regarding the outcome of this “poll”. I just didn’t believe that it would be possible to get such a ludicrous result unless the official call list for pollsters was the NY Times subscribers list.

  3. Lipstick on a PIAPS
    September 12th, 2007 at 5:02 am

    Iran, George Soros, the Democrats, the Syrians and the North Koreans, what’s the difference? They all hate Bush’s effectiveness on the Global War on Terrorism. Equally…….. says a lot about the man.

  4. englishqueen01
    September 12th, 2007 at 7:52 am

    Oh. My. Goodness.

    This is why a Republican needs to win in 2008. If a Democrat wins, I’m-a-Nut-Job will be our president before the end of the decade.

    These people are nuts and they’re giving our country to ruthless, Islamofacist dictators.

  5. pagar
    September 12th, 2007 at 7:53 am

    “Iran, George Soros, the Democrats, the Syrians and the North Koreans” the new improved Axis of Evil”

  6. low profile
    September 12th, 2007 at 10:19 am

    I am always skeptical of polls. In this case, the source is known to have an axe to grind. The surprising thing is that the Iranians didn’t blame the usual Zionist suspects, but let stand the fact that the highjackers were mostly Saudi and all Islamic.

    By the way, FDR ‘knew’ about Pearl Harbor–using the same criteria.

  7. EvaTheFrisbeeDog
    September 12th, 2007 at 11:56 am

    Of this sample set, nearly 10% say the US Govt actually carried out the attacks and 11% only somewhat disagree with this statement; therefore, 20% of those polled are out of their minds; the remaining 23% were obviously confused by the the question.

    For instance, let’s say you believe that there was sufficient evidence to predict an attack and the FBI held in custody one of the 9/11 hijackers before the attack, but because of their ineptitude or inability to correlate all these events they did nothing, you may respond the same. It’s a confusing statement, especially when you’re peppered with all sort of conspiratorial accusations. It’s a classic implicit association trap. The order in which these questions were asked can lead to a statistical bias, and Zogby knows this. Also, they’re only using “listed” telephone numbers. I wonder if cell phones were called? Probably not. I’m not buying these results.

    As for Zogby, he did some amazing work on the 2000 national elections, but he is after all a self-professed liberal Democrat of Lebanese descent; his brother is the founder of Arab American Institute. That’s not to say his not a good pollster, but he’s no fan of the Bush administration and he knows how to skew results.

  8. SG
    September 12th, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    Mr. Limbaugh is talking about this article as we speak.

  9. texaspsue
    September 12th, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    I knew something was fishy about the news report. I’ve been a Zogby pollster for quite a few years now and for the life of me, I didn’t recall taking this poll. The MSM is moving from careless reporting to dangerous reporting. I am being to think the U.S. MSM only writes the news for the rest of the World’s benefit, not ours. To promote pure propaganda and lies Worldwide!!!!

  10. ATLien
    September 12th, 2007 at 3:45 pm

    If there is one thing I learned in statistics, it is that you can make them prove any point or show any result that you want them to. This is gross and it disturbs me. When will people wake up and start condemning these conspiracy theorists publically?

  11. GetBackJack
    September 12th, 2007 at 3:52 pm

    In my humble opinion, and I am not wrong about this …. polls exist to gauge the effect of propaganda. The Dominant Paradigm is issued through ‘news outlets’. People read and discuss what they’ve been told. Then a poll is conducted to see how well the miasm is being ingested and taken for Reality. Polls are a feedback loop. Ask anyone what they think of Iraq and let them expound. Then ask, “How do you know all that?” Or, “who told you?” Their response will be from any number of sources, but only one in a million will have Been There and Seen That. Virtually no one you’ll meet has been to Iraq and done the heavy lifting and also has the contextual knowledge of how all this fits together in the World Puzzle. But … they’ll damn sure have an opinion … and their views and opinions are derived from Others. In essence … They Do Not Know. They know only what they are told, wheher it is FoxNews or CNN or the AP.

    Polls exist to find out how well a message is taking. Any engineer will tell us that a feedback loop is necessary in order for machinery to operate correctly. Negative feedback produces a more stable response, and positive feedback loops cause a machine to oscillate out of control and tear itself apart. Negative Feedback in terms of ‘news’ would be actual facts, absent spin and agenda. The naked cold truth. Spin, agenda and crafted stylized journalism is Positive Feedback, because it reinforces the propaganda already being pushed down the pipe. The whole thing is a vicious tactic in a larger strategy to get us to tear ourselves apart. No one can defeat America except Americans tearing each other apart. We won’t do it willingly, so we must be manipulated into doing it.

    We are children of the Living God.
    Jesus Himself said, “ye are gods”.
    What does God do? He creates.
    Our natural estate is Creating.
    That which opposes God cannot stop us from creating … it can only corrupt what we create, by controlling us. Control the creator.

    And now you know what Polling is for.

    Control. Positive Feedback. Busting the machinery.

  12. BillK
    September 12th, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    You’ve got to put up an MP3 of Rush saying “Sweetness and Light.” :-)

  13. wardmama4
    September 12th, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    SG you have hit THE BIG TIME - I’ve seen S & L linked (was it Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham or Michelle Malkin ?!?) this week and now the Great One (you know the One Who is Running America) let everyone know that Iran is behind the latest attempt to ‘validate’ the Truthers and other lunatic moonbats. . .

    I lost all interest and respect for polls when we subscribed to USA Today (ages ago) and read a poll - 46% of Americans were scared of AIDS. I thought wow and actually read the whole deal - the poll was done only in SanFrancisco. Well - they got what they wanted.

    Same with this one.

    Polls are now being used (sorry GetBackJack) not to test whether their propaganda is working - but rather to make sure the masses know exactly what to answer. Read some of them now days - I won’t answer as they are so twisted I can’t answer honestly. Not that any of the msm deals with truth, facts or honesty any more.

  14. fight_the_good_fight
    September 12th, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    To GetBackJack, as an engineer who hated studying control systems and also not “getting it.” I must confess I also don’t think I understand your post. What does the bit about God have to do with polls? Finally, Christ was quoting a Pslam that was referring to the Jewish judges and leaders of the people. It was actually quite condemning and I don’t think I would take the title up myself if I were you. Sorry this is completely off topic but some things confuse me.

  15. caambers
    September 12th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    I’d like to mention that the founder of Zogby International is John Zogby, also the founder and president of the Arab American Institute (not Arab is listed first in the name) and co-founder and Executive Director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. He’s also co-founded an organization which funds health care for Paleosimians. I don’t think I need to say more here.

  16. bnelson44
    September 12th, 2007 at 7:44 pm

    Anyone know if the Iranian Republican Guard owns Press TV?

  17. bnelson44
    September 12th, 2007 at 7:46 pm

    or is it Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps?

  18. SG
    September 13th, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    BTW, it should be noted that the crackpot conspiracy theorists at Truth.org also claim to have “co-sponsored” this Zogby poll.

    From 911Truth.org:

    Zogby Poll: 51% of Americans Want Congress to Probe Bush/Cheney Regarding 9/11 Attacks; Over 30% Seek Immediate Impeachment

    Released: September 06, 2007

    Kansas City, MO (Zogby International) September 6, 2007 - As America nears the sixth anniversary of the world-churning events of September 11, 2001, a new Zogby International poll finds a majority of Americans still await a Congressional investigation of President Bush’ and Vice President Cheney’s actions before, during and after the 9/11 attacks. Over 30% also believe Bush and/or Cheney should be immediately impeached by the House of Representatives.

    The 911truth.org-sponsored poll also found that over two-thirds of Americans say the 9/11 Commission should have investigated the still unexplained collapse of the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 at 5:20 p.m. on September 11, 2001…

    Poll Sponsor

    The Zogby poll was conceived and commissioned by 911truth.org and paid for with generous assistance from individual project donors and Visibility911.com. 911truth.org is a national information clearing house and grassroots resource center for the US 9/11 truth movement. The group is dedicated to investigation, education, organizing, and accountability regarding the recent criminal misuse of government to promote fear, repression and endless war…

    http://tinyurl.com/227zmr

    I thought it was victory that was supposed to have a thousand fathers. Not “truther” opinion polls.

  19. Warmonger Infidel
    September 13th, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    SG….all those numbers are making my head spin. You are a much better man than I when it comes to being a numbers ferret.

    But as I think most of us already knew, Zogby is a whore that will take any organization’s money, and provide them with a poll and results that fit their particular agenda. There are those that believe politicians base their decisions on polls. That may be true in some cases, but I think it’s really the other way around….they use the polls to justify bad decisions.

  20. DW
    September 13th, 2007 at 2:14 pm

    Speaking of the 9/11 conspiracy…from the Toronto Sun:

    Conspiracy’s end?

    By THANE BURNETT

    There’s a radical theory that’s being considered in hushed tones.

    That the 9/11 conspiracy chorus, which started to rise before the ashes of that day had completely fallen, has reached a natural and final crescendo.

    That despite the tremendous popular success of online videos, forums and books — claiming the U.S. government was behind the deaths of almost 3,000 people, the planes were remote drones and the towers were brought down with military-planted explosives or missiles — the movement has left its most productive days behind.

    That — even as it, according to a poll last year, convinced a third of the American population that U.S. officials were somehow complicit in the attacks — it can never really prove its case.

    Who is this skeptic to suggest such a thing? The man doubting the doubting is Jimmy Walter; once the 9/11 “Truth Movement’s” most diehard promoter. Over the years, Walter, an American venture capitalist and heir to a $14.3 million fortune from his dad’s home-building business, has spent nearly $8-million to convince his fellow citizens that the attacks of 9/11 were orchestrated by “they” — an “inside job” of government leaders, media and businessmen. He’s run full page ads in papers like The New York Times and, in 2004, funded 30-second messages on major American cable networks, such as CNN and Fox News.

    His efforts found thirsty soil, especially around New York, where three years ago, a Zogby poll found almost half of Gotham residents believed federal officials knew in advance that the attacks were being planned. But more recently, Walter, one of the loudest voices in the ranks of skeptics, has quietly moved out of the U.S. He’s stepped back from changing the minds of the other 70% of Americans who believe what their government has determined — that a group of terrorists successfully attacked the U.S.

    Walter says he no longer hands out free copies of his DVD, Confronting the Evidence, which he’s given away 300,000 times. He doesn’t even bother to return most e-mails.

    “There is no hope of this,” Walter tells me of proving a mass conspiracy he believes in. One, having covered 9/11 from Ground Zero, I can’t accept beyond the already proven government ineptness and blindness.

    He is on the line from Austria, where he has moved. He still figures explosives, planted in the towers, brought them down, and even put up a $1-million reward for any expert who could prove different. But he’s no longer interested in offering the bounty.

    He also still believes — as is the “Truth Movement’s” mantra — that a plane didn’t fly into the Pentagon and that the World Trade Center, which fell late in the afternoon after the two main towers came down, was detonated from the inside. He’ll never buy that, as he sees it, “19 screw-ups with box cutters” could have made the seemingly impossible happen.

    Over the years, the conspiracy theory debate has been a tennis match. Those questioning the official version lob loaded questions and bits of evidence, such as photos or interviews. Then an entire counter culture, outraged that even the grief of victim’s families has been questioned, answers back with their own sites, videos and books. But conclusions breed doubt and more questions in a match without end. There is even a book titled Debunking 9/11 Debunking.

    “I mean, it’s been six years — for at least five, the information has been out there,” Walter says. It’s blatantly obvious the truth will never come out and it will all end up like debates over who really shot John F. Kennedy, he’s sure.

    “The people know. Nothing is happening,” he says, noting of his own part in the odd debate: “(I’ve) completely walked away … the curtain call is done.”

    He is not alone. A column in an online forum popular with 9/11 “Truthers,” by lesser known skeptic Michael Bonanno, recently said: “I think we should give up.”

    The truth will likely never be found, and the debate stops people from getting on with life to make things better, he argued.

    But there are those who aren’t ready to walk away from the rubble — a good amount of which they’ve stirred up.

    Phil Jayhan, who takes credit for being one of the early players involved in the first version of Loose Change, one of the most popular 9/11 skeptics’ movies, is preparing his own conspiracy film.

    Loose Change even made it into Vanity Fair, and Jayhan is sure there’s still growth in doubt.

    “Is it a conspiracy movement when you can prove the conspiracy?” he tries to convince me, on the line from Alaska.

    He vows to carry on, saying the movement is no longer fringe, but rather mainstream. Shortly after our conversation, I receive an e-mail about a new poll — done on behalf of a skeptic organization — which found even more people around the world suspect a wider 9/11 conspiracy.

    Despite deciding to exile himself from the need to disbelieve, there was no doubt it was sent to me from Austria by Jimmy Walter.

    http://www.torontosun.com/News.....489430.php

    Boo Hoo…

  21. Warmonger Infidel
    September 13th, 2007 at 2:22 pm

    Nice Sunshine Girl today DW. That’s about the most credible thing in that rag…….:-).

  22. Gila Monster
    September 13th, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    Not bad WI, but I’ll take Monday’s Sunshine Girl if you please.
    Catherine, 27 with two rugrats, brunette with green eyes and a rack any true hunter would be proud to mount in front of, oops, I really meant over, his fireplace…. ;o)

    Actually, she’s young enough to be my daughter but hey, fantasies are fun too…!! Sorry for being OT.

  23. sheehanjihad
    September 13th, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    People will believe at the level their intelligence allows…..truthers would be “flat earthers” a couple of centuries ago, and demand that Columbus return the money he used to prove otherwise.

    It would be like showing a stone age group a Bic lighter….they would not be able to conceive the idea of instant fire…..

    and folks like the ones that insist that for whatever reason, the 9/11 attacks were a product of the Bush administration’s evil plan for world domination just cannot fathom that it was merely Islamic terrorists flying aircraft into infidel buildings to kill as many people as possible
    .
    They cannot understand metallurgy, physics, reality, the world is indeed round….and they choose to dwell in their ignorance and unfortunately try to foist their ignorance on more intelligent people.

    These are the people the democrats adore. These are the myopic issue ridden people who want so desperately to believe anything other than the blatant facts…..because they are incapable of absorbing reality. It hurts their brains. It makes them realize just how small and woefully insignificant they really are.

    So, conspiracy theorists they become. It gives them a sense of self worth they couldnt otherwise achieve through normal means….such as a life.

  24. wardmama4
    September 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    You know what this story, DW’s about Jimmy Walter and the Moveon ad, Code Pink et al shows: that when conservatives make/have millions they invest in/start companies, donate to service/aid charities, establish educational scholarships and so on and when liberals have millions they use that money to overthrow free/democratic governments, secretly further progressive agendas and propagandize their positions. It is all about THEM.

    What a shame, I thought that those who desire peace, equality and justice would be all about Humanity. . .My bad.

  25. Warmonger Infidel
    September 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pm

    GM….probably young enough to be my grand daughter but whose counting? Now back to the topic at hand….


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