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Lech Walesa ‘Passes’ On Obama Meeting

From the Agence France-Presse:

Lech Walesa snubs Obama, fellow Nobel winner

May 27, 2011

WARSAW (AFP) – Lech Walesa, Poland’s Solidarity-era legend, ex-president and 1983 Nobel Peace Prize winner said Friday he would not accept an invitation to meet with fellow Nobel winner US President Barack Obama.

"It’s difficult to tell journalists what you’d like to say to the president of a superpower. This time I won’t tell him, I won’t meet him, it doesn’t suit me," Walesa told Poland’s public broadcaster TVP.

Obama is due to arrive in Poland later Friday after the G8 summit in France.

Walesa was originally scheduled to meet Obama Saturday along with other key figures in Poland’s post-1989 transition from communism to democracy.

According to sources close to Walesa, he was expecting a personal invitation from Obama, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 shortly after taking office.

Notice how this article tries to make it sound like Mr. Walesa is just being petty over a personal slight. We strongly suspect it had more to do with Mr. Obama’s politics than his woeful lack of social graces.

After all, Mr. Obama is doing his level best to roll back Reaganism. And if it weren’t for the behind the scenes work of President Reagan (as well as Prime Minister Thatcher and Pope John-Paul, II), Mr. Walesa probably would not be alive today. And he certainly would not be free to speak his mind.

The US president is Friday scheduled to attend a working dinner with more than a dozen presidents of ex-communist states focusing on what lessons their democratic transformation could hold for the Arab Spring

Let’s hope he gets an ear full from those heroes. After all, Mr. Obama’s attempt to compare the end of the Cold War and the fall of the Berlin Wall to the ‘Arab Spring’ (and himself to President Reagan) is a travesty in itself. The people of Eastern Europe were clearly yearning for freedom.

Whatever else the Arab Spring is about, freedom is pretty far down on the list. In fact, many if not most of the demonstrators across the Middle East want to impose Sharia Law, which is the polar opposite of freedom.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Friday, May 27th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

11 Responses to “Lech Walesa ‘Passes’ On Obama Meeting”

  1. Rusty Shackleford

    My hat’s off to Lech. All through the 80′s I watched and listened as he battled what some would call impossible odds to emerge victorious and very much alive. In today’s modern post Soviet world, if anyone understands freedom and how it is earned, it would be Lech Walesa.

  2. Chase

    I agree, though were he had to have gone through the ordeal, I would have cheered him more if he gave ToolBoy a lecture and “look around” statement about socialism, and its evil, in any varying form, and biayatch slapped him for marginalizing and suffocating the world’s most vital economy, and the drag he has caused everywhere else.

  3. proreason

    Good for Lech.

    re the “Arab Spring”. It’s more likely the first month of the Arab winter. Islam will be destroyed within the next 50 years. Doesn’t matter how angry they are, an anger fueled by their “elites” just like american anger is fueled by our “elites”; Islam is simply incapable of winning a military conflict; and that is exactly what will eventually happen. The religion will be wiped off the face of the earth, because after that war, the west’s idiotic “tolerance” will be exhausted. Just as Nazism was wiped out, so will Islam. What the “Arab Spring” will do is give their most extreme nutters more power, which is simply expediting the process.

    It could happen a lot faster than 50 years, but that is probably the outer limit. The war itself will last a few days.

    • Rusty Shackleford

      Maybe the hurried arrival of the 12th “I’m-a-ham” is a good thing, as orchestrated by Captain Zero and Ach-I-need-a-job. As you said, with such revelry will come militarization of their “cause” and it’s a reasonable assumption that Western military can steamroll them in short order. I’ve always come to that conclusion when asking myself why they engage in such subversive, tedious tactics like terrorism. There are many reasons but one big one is that they know that any or all arab nations, if they organize militarily against the West, will be gunned down quicker than Black Bart at high noon. In a sense, it’s good but only for identifying their clear cowardice. When Iraq 1 happened I was on active duty and everyone on base followed the details very closely and were very, very impressed with the execution and definitive nature and speed of the whole thing. Sure, Saddam had just about the largest military in the region, and not only could he not even fly so much as a kite, his mobile troops were surrendering to …..DRONES.

      If that is indicative of the arab/muslim soldier mindset, then I agree that it won’t be much of a fight. But then, I’m reminded of the “cleanup actions” of the post conflict arena. My uptake on that has been and still is, “Defeat them then leave.” Let them live in their own tribal squalor. If they amass troops and try it again, then go kick their ass again and then leave. That way, endangerment of US lives is minimized and the theory that “nation-building” on a Western, post WW-II platform is a fool’s errand. If democracy is to bloom there, it has to be 100% home-grown. Any “help” from the US is seen as interference and manipulation and always will be. So, the generals and politicians, even W, had it wrong.

      You have to grab them, spank them, then send them to their room and if/when they are ready to behave, you watch them closely and if they get snotty, they get spanked again. It’s a fundamental that the politicians over-complicate and try to bring in empty arguments, then the socialists have co-opted it to mean something it doesn’t, etc., etc.

      To me, it was always simple. You send terrorists here, we will beat you bloody senseless each and every time.

  4. Chase

    I was involved in a national command center during Desert Storm and despite all the months of hype by our defeatists media (CNN was all there was outside of the networks) on how tough Saddam’s army was, how strong and well-equipped, bloodied but toughened by their long war with Iran, yadda yadda, I told my team that it wouldn’t last 4 days. And I was off by 4 hours.

    The Arab society and mindset is not geared to peaceful coexistence, cooperation, or any sense of nationalism. T.E. Lawrence provided what it took for them to find combined success (on a small scale) in their first joint endeavor in 700+ years.

    There is a saying in Afghanistan that no matter who is in charge in Kabul, the people in the valleys will resist and fight them – no interest in a central government whatsoever. It goes further than that – Islam offers or demand no hierarchy, no standard practices (check out the hilarious advice boards – I think it was while perusing one 5 years ago that I stumbled onto someone from, or a link to S & L) and no accountability of its teachers, administrators, or peoples. No Arab Mooselimb wants to keep records of his financial dealings for someone to check. No one keeps track of their income, and the bribery that is fundamental to their black-market economies. There is no real drive for higher education, basic infrastructures that would lend stability, transparency, accountability – in short, there is no interest in rule of law.

    They have and will seemingly always be tribal first. Honor of the tribe (no accounting for after getting the best place in the line as to how they fare or react to the actual fighting) is the most important thing – placement, respect, influence. They are so busy in-fighting about tribal squabbles, showings of disrespect, or haggling over the next deal that they can’t be bothered with building a working society that has any resemblance to Western Civilization.

    Islam as a standard, unique to them, unwanted by anyone else, is their only standard. Not that any two of them would stand in shoulder-to-shoulder as in Tianamen Square, but it gives them something about which to grasp and attach foolish pride,and thus to get upset about when someone publishes an obscure cartoon or burns some printed paper in the form of a book.

    So, i am in hearty agreement with Rusty and Pro on the durability, courage, or basic comaraderie of Arabs.

    My only argument would be the time it would take to see the Muslim world fold up. While I agree that the Arab nations would fold, run, and hide in their caves and spider holes to cowardly throw homemade bombs another day from behind burqa and man-jams, I think the Indonesian and Philippine bunch (non-Arabs) would add another facet to any military planning equation.

    • proreason

      I think it will be much more than any war humanity has ever seen. More extreme by far than WWII. It will be nuclear and very rapid. Mecca and Medina will be flattened and abandoned. The religion will be abolished from the planet. The likely course will be to destroy some less ‘sacred’ cities first, in the vain hope of stopping the insanity. But it won’t, so the destruction will escalate until Islam has nothing left. Islam’s defense will be Allah. Good luck with that.

      Of course, remnants of the religion will survive, because it will be impossible to totally eradicate it. But the destruction will be done thoroughly enough that it will be centuries before it can infest the world again, if ever.

      I think this will happen whether or not the ruling classes succeed in their efforts to return to a two-class feudal society (i.e., the marxists win). If the marxists do win, I think it will happen more quickly because the marxists have no compunctions at all. If they win, the destruction of Islam will immediately follow the power consolidation period.

      I see the inevitable conflict as more akin to the genecides of ancient times than what we think of a modern warfare. There are many examples of entire civilizations being erased from the earth. Carthage is one, but there were many others. The west will do it, not because that is what modern people want to do, but because the civilized world will come to realize in the next few decades that it is the only solution to the problem.

      Medieval people can’t be handled with processes that evolved to handle the conflicts of modern people; 99% of whom are motivated by desires other than mindless adherance to millenia-old and hopelessly outdated religious doctines that were designed for conquest, not personal fulfillment. All other modern religions have moved far beyond that medieval mindset, with only a few isolated resistors.

      I know this sounds extreme in the extremis. But I am convinced it is the only solution to the problem.

      I hope that as the west begins to realize that there is no chance of compromise with bloodthirsty medieval people, there is a small chance that Islam can reform itself. It better. They can’t possibly achieve their expectations. Compared to Islam, the rest of civilization might as well be aliens in a fleet of invulnerable Star Ship. Quoting the Koran won’t help them when the west’s patience has been exhausted.

    • canary

      Obama wrongly compares Ireland and Israel

      http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....71449.html

      ————–
      Obama worried over Saudi Arabia’s bid to curb Iran.

      The Wall Street Journal: Saudi Bid to Curb Iran Worries U.S.
      May 27 2011 By Matthew Rosenberg, Jay Solomon, and Margaret Coker
      http://online.wsj.com/article/.....15962.html

  5. Freedom615

    Netenyahu/Walesa 2012

    Who wants to print the yard signs?

  6. wirenut

    Great points, one and all. I guess a photo-op with a “LOSER” isn’t Lech’s cup of tea. This Buds for you! Hat’s off, and down the hatch. Real men don’t relate with a hussy.

    • Liberals Demise

      Lech would know a commie 10 miles away and coming. He had his chance
      to kick our commie / mooselimb in the twigs & berries.




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