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		<title>By: JohnMG</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/legislation-you-get-from-an-acorn-organizer#comment-119817</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>torrentami;  And Reagan appointed Sandra Day O&#039;Connor to the Supreme Court.  Point being, these folks become a law unto themselves once they are seated.  I&#039;ve sat on Grand Jury panels and know how the politics works, and the prosecutors are not beyond pandering to keep their jobs.  Further, testimony given to a grand jury cannot be made public, and as you mentioned, an indictment only means that the grand jury felt there was enough evidence for the prosecutor to go to trial.  High profile trials are good for high-profile careers.  The fact that this case is located in SoCal and is being aired during an election cycle makes me curious.  Nguyn is no David Duke, but since the case seems tied to a letter that was translated from one language into another, and there is no way of knowing what the demographic make-up of the jury panel is makes me queasy.

This was no swipe at George Bush or republicans in general, but if you think everybody serving in these positions are republicans, or are sympathetic to the Bush administration, I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.  ;-}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>torrentami;  And Reagan appointed Sandra Day O&#8217;Connor to the Supreme Court.  Point being, these folks become a law unto themselves once they are seated.  I&#8217;ve sat on Grand Jury panels and know how the politics works, and the prosecutors are not beyond pandering to keep their jobs.  Further, testimony given to a grand jury cannot be made public, and as you mentioned, an indictment only means that the grand jury felt there was enough evidence for the prosecutor to go to trial.  High profile trials are good for high-profile careers.  The fact that this case is located in SoCal and is being aired during an election cycle makes me curious.  Nguyn is no David Duke, but since the case seems tied to a letter that was translated from one language into another, and there is no way of knowing what the demographic make-up of the jury panel is makes me queasy.</p>
<p>This was no swipe at George Bush or republicans in general, but if you think everybody serving in these positions are republicans, or are sympathetic to the Bush administration, I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.  ;-}</p>
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		<title>By: torrentami</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/legislation-you-get-from-an-acorn-organizer#comment-119814</link>
		<dc:creator>torrentami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnMG: I didn&#039;t quite understand your comment.  The US Attorney for the Central District of California is Thomas O&#039;Brien, who was appointed by GWB.  Southern California, especially Orange County, is heavily republican.  The FBI is run by Robert Mueller who was appointed by GWB and set the mandate for the Civil Rights Division.  It seems like this is legitimate.  Unless your comment was meant as a jab against republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnMG: I didn&#8217;t quite understand your comment.  The US Attorney for the Central District of California is Thomas O&#8217;Brien, who was appointed by GWB.  Southern California, especially Orange County, is heavily republican.  The FBI is run by Robert Mueller who was appointed by GWB and set the mandate for the Civil Rights Division.  It seems like this is legitimate.  Unless your comment was meant as a jab against republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: therightguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>therightguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering Obama comes from Chicago and that machine, he should be well acquainted with voter fraud and magic as well. It must be magic when whole cemeteries get out and vote. I would bet Daily&#039;s father will be voting on November 4. 
Jim
http://www.therightguyshow.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering Obama comes from Chicago and that machine, he should be well acquainted with voter fraud and magic as well. It must be magic when whole cemeteries get out and vote. I would bet Daily&#8217;s father will be voting on November 4.<br />
Jim<br />
<a href="http://www.therightguyshow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.therightguyshow.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: curvyred</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/legislation-you-get-from-an-acorn-organizer#comment-119782</link>
		<dc:creator>curvyred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add this to the truth squad tactics and we should all be very afraid, why don&#039;t people wake up, now during Hitler I could understand because there was limited ways to get the word out, now there is no excuse to have your head in the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add this to the truth squad tactics and we should all be very afraid, why don&#8217;t people wake up, now during Hitler I could understand because there was limited ways to get the word out, now there is no excuse to have your head in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>torrentami;  .....&quot;The case is being investigated by Special Agent Julie McWilliams of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and prosecuted by Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney James Walsh, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Waier of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California......&quot;

Hmmmmm.  I wonder who appointed these paragons of justice to their esteemed positions.  And in southern California, no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>torrentami;  &#8230;..&#8221;The case is being investigated by Special Agent Julie McWilliams of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and prosecuted by Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney James Walsh, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Waier of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmmm.  I wonder who appointed these paragons of justice to their esteemed positions.  And in southern California, no less.</p>
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		<title>By: wardmama4</title>
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		<dc:creator>wardmama4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Obama claiming foul on voter fraud is rich - I have received a number of flyers touting &#039;how easy it is&#039; to vote by mail with at least two sides of it Obama ads - not to mention the phone calls (daily) - I am disgusted by it. [Give the money you waste on this crappola back to the taxpayers, damn it]

The Republicans here - send out the usual stuff - here I am, here is what I stand for. Even the guy who is attempting to unseat our incumbent Rep - sent one of those flyers - but not Obama - he is into milking the system to the end.

I don&#039;t like how my state has allowed anyone and everyone to vote absentee - but they have done everything to turn OH blue - so this is just another step in that attempt. I can&#039;t wait to election day - going to be a long day for me (I&#039;m a poll worker) but it will be fun. . .My first Presidential election. I can&#039;t do much, but I won&#039;t sit on the sidelines and do nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama claiming foul on voter fraud is rich &#8211; I have received a number of flyers touting &#8216;how easy it is&#8217; to vote by mail with at least two sides of it Obama ads &#8211; not to mention the phone calls (daily) &#8211; I am disgusted by it. [Give the money you waste on this crappola back to the taxpayers, damn it]</p>
<p>The Republicans here &#8211; send out the usual stuff &#8211; here I am, here is what I stand for. Even the guy who is attempting to unseat our incumbent Rep &#8211; sent one of those flyers &#8211; but not Obama &#8211; he is into milking the system to the end.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like how my state has allowed anyone and everyone to vote absentee &#8211; but they have done everything to turn OH blue &#8211; so this is just another step in that attempt. I can&#8217;t wait to election day &#8211; going to be a long day for me (I&#8217;m a poll worker) but it will be fun. . .My first Presidential election. I can&#8217;t do much, but I won&#8217;t sit on the sidelines and do nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: dulcimergrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>dulcimergrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that whole letter brouhaha in 2006. At the time, it seemed like a tempest in a teapot. It still does. And it&#039;s unfortunate that they&#039;re pursuing this as a criminal investigation when the opposing candidate, Loretta Sanchez, was &#039;suspected&#039; of defeating Dornan under fraudulent circumstances, with no official investigation that I know of. But it&#039;s okay, she&#039;s a democrat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that whole letter brouhaha in 2006. At the time, it seemed like a tempest in a teapot. It still does. And it&#8217;s unfortunate that they&#8217;re pursuing this as a criminal investigation when the opposing candidate, Loretta Sanchez, was &#8217;suspected&#8217; of defeating Dornan under fraudulent circumstances, with no official investigation that I know of. But it&#8217;s okay, she&#8217;s a democrat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: torrentami</title>
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		<dc:creator>torrentami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like this is still ongoing.  This is directly from the DOJ today:

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/October/08-crt-879.html

Former Congressional Candidate Indicted on Federal Obstruction of Justice Charge

WASHINGTON - A federal grand jury in Santa Ana, Calif., indicted former congressional candidate Tan Nguyen on a federal obstruction of justice charge today, announced Grace Chung Becker, Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, and Thomas P. O’Brien, U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California. The indictment alleges that Nguyen made misleading statements to investigators regarding a letter that was sent to Latino voters in the 47th Congressional District of the State of California prior to the November 2006 federal elections. At the time the letter was sent, Nguyen was running to represent the Orange County-based district in the U.S. House of Representatives.

The grand jury alleged that Nguyen knowingly misled state investigators who were investigating the circumstances surrounding the mailing of the letter. The indictment also alleges that Nguyen’s actions were intended to prevent communication to federal law enforcement officers of information relating to Nguyen’s involvement in the production and dissemination of the letter and to whether the letter violated federal election laws, including interfering with the federally protected right to vote in federal elections.

An indictment is merely an accusation, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless proven guilty. If convicted, Nguyen faces up to 10 years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervised release. Nguyen will receive a summons to appear in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana for his initial appearance and post-indictment arraignment on Oct.14, 2008.

This continuing investigation is being conducted jointly by the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The case is being investigated by Special Agent Julie McWilliams of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and prosecuted by Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney James Walsh, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Waier of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like this is still ongoing.  This is directly from the DOJ today:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/October/08-crt-879.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/20.....t-879.html</a></p>
<p>Former Congressional Candidate Indicted on Federal Obstruction of Justice Charge</p>
<p>WASHINGTON &#8211; A federal grand jury in Santa Ana, Calif., indicted former congressional candidate Tan Nguyen on a federal obstruction of justice charge today, announced Grace Chung Becker, Acting Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, and Thomas P. O’Brien, U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California. The indictment alleges that Nguyen made misleading statements to investigators regarding a letter that was sent to Latino voters in the 47th Congressional District of the State of California prior to the November 2006 federal elections. At the time the letter was sent, Nguyen was running to represent the Orange County-based district in the U.S. House of Representatives.</p>
<p>The grand jury alleged that Nguyen knowingly misled state investigators who were investigating the circumstances surrounding the mailing of the letter. The indictment also alleges that Nguyen’s actions were intended to prevent communication to federal law enforcement officers of information relating to Nguyen’s involvement in the production and dissemination of the letter and to whether the letter violated federal election laws, including interfering with the federally protected right to vote in federal elections.</p>
<p>An indictment is merely an accusation, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless proven guilty. If convicted, Nguyen faces up to 10 years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervised release. Nguyen will receive a summons to appear in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana for his initial appearance and post-indictment arraignment on Oct.14, 2008.</p>
<p>This continuing investigation is being conducted jointly by the Criminal Section of the Civil Rights Division, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.</p>
<p>The case is being investigated by Special Agent Julie McWilliams of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and prosecuted by Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney James Walsh, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Waier of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;referring specifically to your last comment, yes, that story about the letter mailed out to latinos in orange county is substantiated. a quick google search can verify it.&quot;

The existence of some letters was substantiated.

The claim that this was a &quot;calculated efforts to disenfranchise voters&quot; was not.

In fact, the California Attorney General rejected that claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;referring specifically to your last comment, yes, that story about the letter mailed out to latinos in orange county is substantiated. a quick google search can verify it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The existence of some letters was substantiated.</p>
<p>The claim that this was a &#8220;calculated efforts to disenfranchise voters&#8221; was not.</p>
<p>In fact, the California Attorney General rejected that claim.</p>
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		<title>By: JerseyGrrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerseyGrrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t put it past the offended side to create their own issue here.  If the Republicans won&#039;t intimidate anyone, we&#039;ll do it ourselves then report the &#039;discovery&#039;.

Nah, couldn&#039;t happen.  I&#039;m just cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put it past the offended side to create their own issue here.  If the Republicans won&#8217;t intimidate anyone, we&#8217;ll do it ourselves then report the &#8216;discovery&#8217;.</p>
<p>Nah, couldn&#8217;t happen.  I&#8217;m just cynical.</p>
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		<title>By: torrentami</title>
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		<dc:creator>torrentami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>referring specifically to your last comment, yes, that story about the letter mailed out to latinos in orange county is substantiated.  a quick google search can verify it.  

the text of the actual letter (translated) is as follows:

    “You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time, and you will be deported for voting without having a right to do so.”
    “At the same time, you are advised that the government of the United States is installing a new computer system to verify the names of all new registered voters that vote in the October and November elections. Anti-immigration organizations can ask for information from this new voting system.”

readers can decide for themselves if the letter seems intimidating or misleading.  It seems like the &quot;or you are an immigrant&quot; part is what was controversial.  It implies that as a naturalized immigrant, you can&#039;t vote.  Ironically, that would be one of the first things that one would have to understand if they passed the citizenship test.  In any case, the local GOP condemned the letter and asked for Nguyen to resign his candidacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>referring specifically to your last comment, yes, that story about the letter mailed out to latinos in orange county is substantiated.  a quick google search can verify it.  </p>
<p>the text of the actual letter (translated) is as follows:</p>
<p>    “You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time, and you will be deported for voting without having a right to do so.”<br />
    “At the same time, you are advised that the government of the United States is installing a new computer system to verify the names of all new registered voters that vote in the October and November elections. Anti-immigration organizations can ask for information from this new voting system.”</p>
<p>readers can decide for themselves if the letter seems intimidating or misleading.  It seems like the &#8220;or you are an immigrant&#8221; part is what was controversial.  It implies that as a naturalized immigrant, you can&#8217;t vote.  Ironically, that would be one of the first things that one would have to understand if they passed the citizenship test.  In any case, the local GOP condemned the letter and asked for Nguyen to resign his candidacy.</p>
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