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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-181468</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I understand your point correctly, when a state is totally screwed up, you shouldn&#039;t really say anything about its failed health care system.

Well then, we certainly won&#039;t be able to blame Obamycare for destroying the country.  The Moron is busy as a beaver with dozens of other schemes to turn us into Cuba north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I understand your point correctly, when a state is totally screwed up, you shouldn&#8217;t really say anything about its failed health care system.</p>
<p>Well then, we certainly won&#8217;t be able to blame Obamycare for destroying the country.  The Moron is busy as a beaver with dozens of other schemes to turn us into Cuba north.</p>
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		<title>By: kazooga1234</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-181467</link>
		<dc:creator>kazooga1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they don&#039;t say in this article is when things started to go down hill was when there was a resection. Not many people where visiting the island and thats where all the income comes from. They still would of had those exact same problems cept probably worse if they didn&#039;t have some sort of universal health care. There where already lots of people going broke at the time because it&#039;s not like you can just jump from one island to the other to find jobs. Also there where a lot of bad business deals that where happening in Hawaii that where horrible mistakes. Those are still being paid off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they don&#8217;t say in this article is when things started to go down hill was when there was a resection. Not many people where visiting the island and thats where all the income comes from. They still would of had those exact same problems cept probably worse if they didn&#8217;t have some sort of universal health care. There where already lots of people going broke at the time because it&#8217;s not like you can just jump from one island to the other to find jobs. Also there where a lot of bad business deals that where happening in Hawaii that where horrible mistakes. Those are still being paid off.</p>
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		<title>By: watermark0n</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-174414</link>
		<dc:creator>watermark0n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s just like government mandated overtime if you don’t want to pay it hire more people so that no one gets over 40 hours&quot;

That was sort of the point. Before this law, it was common for businesses to require people work 16, even 18 hours a day, and there was basically no other choice for anyone who wanted to advance in their career. It was a race to the bottom. The 40 hour work week raises our quality of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s just like government mandated overtime if you don’t want to pay it hire more people so that no one gets over 40 hours&#8221;</p>
<p>That was sort of the point. Before this law, it was common for businesses to require people work 16, even 18 hours a day, and there was basically no other choice for anyone who wanted to advance in their career. It was a race to the bottom. The 40 hour work week raises our quality of life.</p>
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		<title>By: watermark0n</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-174413</link>
		<dc:creator>watermark0n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s just like government mandated overtime if you don’t want to pay it hire more people so that no one gets over 40 hours&quot;

That was sort of the point. Before this law, it was common for businesses to require people work 16, even 18 hours a week, and there was basically no other choice for anyone who wanted to advance in their career. It was a race to the bottom. The 40 hour work week raises our quality of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s just like government mandated overtime if you don’t want to pay it hire more people so that no one gets over 40 hours&#8221;</p>
<p>That was sort of the point. Before this law, it was common for businesses to require people work 16, even 18 hours a week, and there was basically no other choice for anyone who wanted to advance in their career. It was a race to the bottom. The 40 hour work week raises our quality of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Gillespie</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-162280</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillespie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could you possible state what those positive affects are? Sure anyone can get health care, but should that come at the expense of the hospitals going under or having to beg money from the government (which gets its money from our tax dollars)?

in addition, the article states that it has had to &quot;severely ration care&quot; and doesn&#039;t allow you to pick your own physician anymore. Doesn&#039;t sound like a very much improved health care system to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could you possible state what those positive affects are? Sure anyone can get health care, but should that come at the expense of the hospitals going under or having to beg money from the government (which gets its money from our tax dollars)?</p>
<p>in addition, the article states that it has had to &#8220;severely ration care&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t allow you to pick your own physician anymore. Doesn&#8217;t sound like a very much improved health care system to me.</p>
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		<title>By: sharonfurst</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-162270</link>
		<dc:creator>sharonfurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZZM, where in the world did you get the idea that the public plan in Hawaii has failed? All this site posts are the negative aspects of the Hawaii public option.  Yes, there are negative aspects, but the positives FAR out weigh the negatives.  (Point in fact: the hospitals are failing due to mismanagement more than due to state payments.) 
Hawaii is one place that everyone can get medical care.  And you pay according to your need.  You guys really need to check your facts.

I&#039;ve lived here for 18 years and the public and private health insurance plans has coexisted just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZZM, where in the world did you get the idea that the public plan in Hawaii has failed? All this site posts are the negative aspects of the Hawaii public option.  Yes, there are negative aspects, but the positives FAR out weigh the negatives.  (Point in fact: the hospitals are failing due to mismanagement more than due to state payments.)<br />
Hawaii is one place that everyone can get medical care.  And you pay according to your need.  You guys really need to check your facts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lived here for 18 years and the public and private health insurance plans has coexisted just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-160663</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ZZM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ZZM!</p>
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		<title>By: ZZMike</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-160662</link>
		<dc:creator>ZZMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve linked to your post, from our blog, freedomactionnow.wordpress.com.  One would think that when a plan fails in Hawaii, fails in Tennessee, fails in Massachussetts, that the government would think that it&#039;s a really bad idea to impose it on all the other states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve linked to your post, from our blog, freedomactionnow.wordpress.com.  One would think that when a plan fails in Hawaii, fails in Tennessee, fails in Massachussetts, that the government would think that it&#8217;s a really bad idea to impose it on all the other states.</p>
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		<title>By: wardmama4</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-156174</link>
		<dc:creator>wardmama4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are just so many problems and just plain idiotic &#039;ideas&#039; that can be dis proven here. 

Competition - open - not employer required benefit - not within a State or area - but from the entire US would help to bring down the Insurance costs.

Anyone knows that when something is offered for free versus paying for it - more people will use it more often for no reason other than - They can. Which will make things worse not better.

Also anyone with a brain can deduce - if another responsibility of parenthood is provided by the Government - there will be an increase in population - as people always get in line for the next Government entitlement - when if forced to pay their way - family size (most importantly from the non-married) would be kept manageable or non-existent.

And have you read/listen to the blather - &#039;rushing because so many are begging for something to be done&#039; - because the costs are so high (cost of what, where, who - provide references, sources please) - won&#039;t add to the deficit (in whose insane dreams/fantasy is that ever going to happen) - Public option will make competition for private option (no it will end up forcing more into Public option - just as it&#039;s done for education - and look how that&#039;s turned out).

Finally I want someone - anyone to show me where exactly in the Constitution it says Healthcare is a &lt;b&gt;RIGHT&lt;/b&gt; (btw - I&#039;d also like to see where abortion is a &lt;b&gt;right&lt;/b&gt; also) - I have several copies of the Constitution and have read it - don&#039;t see where Healthcare, Education, abortion, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security are &lt;b&gt;RIGHTS&lt;/b&gt; - at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are just so many problems and just plain idiotic &#8216;ideas&#8217; that can be dis proven here. </p>
<p>Competition &#8211; open &#8211; not employer required benefit &#8211; not within a State or area &#8211; but from the entire US would help to bring down the Insurance costs.</p>
<p>Anyone knows that when something is offered for free versus paying for it &#8211; more people will use it more often for no reason other than &#8211; They can. Which will make things worse not better.</p>
<p>Also anyone with a brain can deduce &#8211; if another responsibility of parenthood is provided by the Government &#8211; there will be an increase in population &#8211; as people always get in line for the next Government entitlement &#8211; when if forced to pay their way &#8211; family size (most importantly from the non-married) would be kept manageable or non-existent.</p>
<p>And have you read/listen to the blather &#8211; &#8216;rushing because so many are begging for something to be done&#8217; &#8211; because the costs are so high (cost of what, where, who &#8211; provide references, sources please) &#8211; won&#8217;t add to the deficit (in whose insane dreams/fantasy is that ever going to happen) &#8211; Public option will make competition for private option (no it will end up forcing more into Public option &#8211; just as it&#8217;s done for education &#8211; and look how that&#8217;s turned out).</p>
<p>Finally I want someone &#8211; anyone to show me where exactly in the Constitution it says Healthcare is a <b>RIGHT</b> (btw &#8211; I&#8217;d also like to see where abortion is a <b>right</b> also) &#8211; I have several copies of the Constitution and have read it &#8211; don&#8217;t see where Healthcare, Education, abortion, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security are <b>RIGHTS</b> &#8211; at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Right of the People</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-156171</link>
		<dc:creator>Right of the People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I bet Oregon will become the model for Crap and Tax.</description>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-156165</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have to go back to the way it was proposed to legislation originally.  By Hitlery Clinton.  At the time merely the first &quot;lady&quot;...not a voted-in member of government.  Back then it just skewered every last belief I had of fair and equitable government.  

And, we also have heard the &quot;California economic model&quot; barkers pretty much die down as that argument died on the vine in light of recent developments.   Interestingly...and as a small point of order, their chief executive is a FOREIGN NATIONAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have to go back to the way it was proposed to legislation originally.  By Hitlery Clinton.  At the time merely the first &#8220;lady&#8221;&#8230;not a voted-in member of government.  Back then it just skewered every last belief I had of fair and equitable government.  </p>
<p>And, we also have heard the &#8220;California economic model&#8221; barkers pretty much die down as that argument died on the vine in light of recent developments.   Interestingly&#8230;and as a small point of order, their chief executive is a FOREIGN NATIONAL.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-156164</link>
		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hawaii weren&#039;t a beautiful Island paradise it would easily be recognized as the money pit that it has become thanks to government &quot;safety nets&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hawaii weren&#8217;t a beautiful Island paradise it would easily be recognized as the money pit that it has become thanks to government &#8220;safety nets&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-156152</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All powerful governments are often able to termporarily suspend the laws of economics, and even human nature.  But life has a way of rearing its ugly (ugly to Statists) head.

And no amount of evidence is enough to persuade the tyrants of the danger of their methods.

That&#039;s because they don&#039;t care about the danger, since the danger never affects the tyrants.  Indeed, they view the danger as a useful tool to control the serfs.

Until the guillotines emerge again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All powerful governments are often able to termporarily suspend the laws of economics, and even human nature.  But life has a way of rearing its ugly (ugly to Statists) head.</p>
<p>And no amount of evidence is enough to persuade the tyrants of the danger of their methods.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t care about the danger, since the danger never affects the tyrants.  Indeed, they view the danger as a useful tool to control the serfs.</p>
<p>Until the guillotines emerge again.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/lessons-from-hawaiis-health-care-system#comment-156144</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH MAN ...... This is our redeeming moment for the classical fingerprint / DNA of Socialized  Medicine.
 &quot;Come to papa, baby!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH MAN &#8230;&#8230; This is our redeeming moment for the classical fingerprint / DNA of Socialized  Medicine.<br />
 &#8220;Come to papa, baby!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: VMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just like government mandated overtime if you don&#039;t want to pay it hire more people so that no one gets over 40 hours.  It&#039;s a common practice.  And what exactly do they call it when the government mandates how businesses are run?  Can you say &quot;socialism&quot; sure I knew you could.  Why can&#039;t these dillrods stay out of businesses way and let it flourish?  Oh I know it&#039;s because NONE of them have ever run a business and they don&#039;t know their butts from a hole in the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just like government mandated overtime if you don&#8217;t want to pay it hire more people so that no one gets over 40 hours.  It&#8217;s a common practice.  And what exactly do they call it when the government mandates how businesses are run?  Can you say &#8220;socialism&#8221; sure I knew you could.  Why can&#8217;t these dillrods stay out of businesses way and let it flourish?  Oh I know it&#8217;s because NONE of them have ever run a business and they don&#8217;t know their butts from a hole in the ground.</p>
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