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Loughner E-Mails – No Palin Or Limbaugh?

From the Arizona Republic:

E-mails detail college’s struggle with Loughner

Officials felt a need to balance his rights with others’ growing fears

Robert Anglen and Dennis Wagner – May. 20, 2011

E-mails obtained Thursday as part of a lawsuit by The Arizona Republic against [Pima Community College] show that in the months leading up to Loughner’s suspension, instructors wanted to remove him from class and campus police wanted to expel him from school. Administrators, concerned about violating his rights or treating him unfairly, wanted more time to investigate.

Officials acknowledged in e-mails that Loughner’s outbursts in class left students and teachers fearful but stressed that he never made any overt threats. That created a quandary about how best to deal with a student to whom some referred as "dark," "creepy," "strange," "bizarre" and "psycho."

Although administrators ultimately did suspend Loughner, the e-mails raise questions about how far colleges and other schools should go in reacting to disruptive students and at what point officials should take serious steps…

The e-mails are among 255 that a Pima County Superior Court judge ordered the college on Wednesday to make public.

The Republic sued the college for the e-mails, arguing in court that the records could help the public determine if the college took appropriate steps in dealing with Loughner

Why was it left to the plucky Arizona Republic to sue for these emails? Didn’t the Associated Press or the New York Times want to see them? Were they afraid they would not support their theories about his motives?

Within hours of the court decision Wednesday, the college announced that it would improve its threat-assessment procedures by hiring a staff psychologist and contracting with a nationally recognized behavioral-assessment expert.

The e-mail reports of Loughner’s disruptive behavior started in September 2009 and reached its apex as the 2010 spring semester ended in June. When the fall semester started last August, new e-mails surfaced…

Loughner was suspended after college officials discovered a "strange video on YouTube," in which the student filmed himself touring the campus and claiming to be a victim of torture and mind control. Administrators circulated a transcript of the film in which Loughner says, "This is my genocide school." ..

A day after his suspension, college officials began circulating a warning bulletin with Loughner’s picture to faculty members. E-mails were marked "Red Category." The message: "Jared Lee Loughner is not permitted on any Pima Community College property. If you see him, please contact campus police immediately."

Even then, e-mails stressed that the information was for law enforcement and staff use only and "cannot be disseminated to the public."

The e-mails did not indicate that Loughner’s case was referred to the school’s Behavior Assessment Committee, which advises administrators on how to handle students whose conduct may present a danger…

The committee, made up of a vice chancellor, a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, and a campus police officer, can determine if a student should be restricted from campus until cleared by a mental-health examiner.

The college’s conduct code dealing with potentially dangerous students doesn’t mention Arizona’s Title 36 law, which gives any "responsible individual" the right to request that a person undergo a court-ordered psychiatric evaluation.

The only references to a clinical review in the e-mails came on the same day or after Loughner was suspended. A college counselor outlined Loughner’s behavior problems under the heading, "notes for . . . clinical guidance" and suggested a referral to the Behavior Assessment Committee to get "advice on restrictions" for his return…

Throughout the e-mail exchange, Pima officials urged caution about acting rashly and violating Loughner’s rights

To sum up, starting in September of 2009 the faculty and administrators at Pima Community College wrote at least 255 internal emails discussing Jared Loughner’s troubling behavior. Local law enforcement has had access to these emails since January of this year.

So if there was any mention in them of Mr. Loughner having been influence by either Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh, we suspect it would have come out by now. But apparently it never came up. How is that possible? And how come we never heard about that?

Don’t ex-governors or radio talk show hosts have any rights?

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, May 20th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

12 Responses to “Loughner E-Mails – No Palin Or Limbaugh?”

  1. Liberals Demise says:

    I smell a tuition hike to offset the cost of a staff psychologist and contracting with a nationally recognized behavioral-assessment expert.
    “Going PC…….That’ll learn ’em.”

  2. GetBackJack says:

    My vivid memory is that Ms. Courtic Matt Lauer, Anne Whats-Her-Name, the NY Times and all the usual suspects did the winky wink in front of cameras strongly suggesting to us that Loughner was driven mad by Limbaugh and Palin, so obviously this article is ginned up by the Tea Party loving Arizona Republic to deflect attention from the facts of Limabugh and Palin’s culpability.

    Because, we know the MSM is factual and unbiased and reliable.

  3. proreason says:

    The lesson seems to be that the wackier and more dangerous you are, the easier it is for you to skate through the already porous systems that are supposed to protect the public from wackos.

    Even mass murderers have their rights.

    This guy would be a hero on t-shirts if he had gone after a conservative politician…or if he was a member of a race approved by the Dept of Racial Justice.

    • Petronius says:

      pro, if he had gone after a conservative, there would be rap artists reciting paeans to him in the White House.

    • Right of the People says:


      Yo dog, you be speakin’ the true 411.

  4. merkelerk says:

    If there had been even a hint of Limbaugh, Palin or the Tea Party in Loughner’s behavior, the school would not have sat on it’s hands and worried about his rights.
    They would have tossed him immediately and reaped the praise of the media.

  5. yadayada says:

    had he been a loyal Rush adherant, he would not have been insane.
    if there had been a whif of him being a Dittohead, he would have been expelled long before his breakdown.

  6. bobdog says:

    See, that’s the thing about mind control. You can’t prove it. Palin and Limbaugh will get away with it again and again until they’re stopped by the media.

    You have no idea how powerful they are. The Tea Party, who, according to CBS, allegedly may number in the dozens, are all the victims of mind control. You saw what they did to Katie Couric. They completely destroyed America’s Cutest Anchorwoman and ruined her career. You saw what they did to Keith Olbermann, reducing him to humiliating public idiocy without leaving a trace of evidence behind. Dan Rather was just their first successful field test.

    Their insidious power grows day by day, and nobody can prove a thing. How do you prove mind control waves? Not even the overwhelming majority of scientists in the Climate Sciences community can prove that remote mind control is even scientifically possible.

    The Progressive Movement, and perhaps even civilization itself, is at risk. Imagine a world where attendance at NASCAR events is compulsory and previously enlightened people are reduced to working for a living at scab wages. This clearly cannot be allowed to happen. Something must be done.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      It’s already happening. Last week I got my electric bill and for some inexplicable reason….I paid it. Same with my rent on the first of the month. I’m seeing a trend here. It may even go all the way back to my enlisting in the military. I have no idea why I did that, except I remember seeing a recruiting commercial once. I was surrounded by people my own age who really couldn’t explain their reasons for being in uniform….we were all mostly 18 and I can only blame it on conservative mind-control tactics which swelled the ranks of the military.

      I checked my bank records and, yup, just as I suspected…premiums to insurance companies, medical bill payouts, the list is endless. Now with Palin on the scene, it’s becoming more clear. The conservatives will stop at nothing, NOTHING I tell you to make me and others personally responsible. I hate it and it’s so unfair.

  7. wirenut says:

    Mind control really does exist! Libtart’s call it………..COLLEGE.

    Any questions?

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      The first rule of hypnosis is that the subject has to want to be hypnotized.

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