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Majority Believe In Healthcare ‘Myths’

From the laughably named site, Live Science:

Majority of Americans Believe Health Care Reform ‘Myths’

More than 50 percent of Americans believe a public insurance option will increase health care costs, according to a new survey on assertions the White House has called myths.

The national survey, conducted from Aug. 14 – 18, involved a random sample of 600 Americans aged 18 and older living in the 48 contiguous states and Washington, D.C. Respondents indicated whether or not they believed 19 claims about health care reform, each of which is considered a myth by the White House.

The results could speak to the current partisan debate on a proposed health care overhaul. While overall the majority of Americans said they believe many of the assertions, more Republicans and Independents than Democrats stood by the claims.

"It’s perhaps not surprising that more Republicans believe these things than Democrats," said study scientist Dr. Aaron Carroll, director of Indiana University’s Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research. "What is surprising is just how many Republicans – and Independents – believe them. If the White House hopes to convince the majority of Americans that they are misinformed about health care reform, there is much work to be done."

Among the results on items the White House considers myths:

    * 67 percent of respondents believe that wait times for health care services, such as surgery, will increase (91 percent of Republicans, 37 percent of Democrats, 72 percent of Independents).
    * About five out of 10 believe the federal government will become directly involved in making personal health care decisions (80 percent of Republicans, 25 percent of Democrats, 56 percent of Independents).
    * Roughly six out of 10 Americans believe taxpayers will be required to pay for abortions (78 percent of Republicans, 30 percent of Democrats, 58 percent of Independents)
    * 46 percent believe reforms will result in health care coverage for all illegal immigrants (66 percent of Republicans, 29 percent of Democrats, 43 percent of Independents).
    * 54 percent believe the public option will increase premiums for Americans with private health insurance (78 percent of Republicans, 28 percent of Democrats, 58 percent of Independents).
    * Five out of 10 think cuts will be made to Medicare in order to cover more Americans (66 percent of Republicans, 37 percent of Democrats, 44 percent of Independents).

There were exceptions.

Fewer participants believe "myths" regarding the impact of proposed changes on current health insurance coverage. For instance, less than 30 percent think private insurance coverage will be eliminated. And just 36 percent think a public insurance option will put private insurance companies out of business.

In addition, only three out of 10 respondents believe the government will require the elderly to make decisions about how and when they will die.

Let’s address some of these so-called myths.

Certainly it is hard to believe wait time for health care services won’t increase under Obama-care, since they have everywhere else in the world where socialized medicine has been institutionalized.

It is likewise hard to believe that the federal government won’t become directly involved in making health care decisions, since the government, in fact the White House, will have the final say on what procedures will and won’t be performed on a given patient and how much they will pay for such procedures.

As for the belief that taxpayers will pay for abortions, even the Annenberg FactCheck.org, says that abortions would be covered by the House bill:

Abortion: Which Side Is Fabricating?

Despite what Obama said, the House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans…

Similarly, it is clear that there is nothing in the proposed legislation that would prevent illegal aliens from being covered by a national system. (Such amendments have been assiduously blocked by the Democrats.)

On the contrary, the House bill appears to specifically include illegal immigrants. And certainly the Supreme Court would ultimately rule that the illegal aliens have the same rights to these benefits as American citizens, just as they have in previous cases.

(And if one of the principle goals of these healthcare reforms is to insure the 40 million people we are told are currently uninsured, that must include illegals. Otherwise, the numbers are no where near that high.)

Lastly, Americans probably believe cuts will be made to Medicare because we have already been told that by Mr. Obama himself, according to the Washington Post:

Trims to Medicare, Medicaid Are Proposed to Help Fund Reform

By Lori Montgomery and Scott Wilson
Sunday, June 14, 2009

President Obama yesterday outlined measures to trim spending on federal health programs for the elderly and the poor by an additional $313 billion over the next decade, bringing his total proposed savings close to the amount necessary to cover the cost of his signature health-care plan, a top adviser said…

It would seem that the Americans in this poll are not quite so ignorant, after all.

And maybe the Republicans fall so heavily for these ‘myths’ because they are actually more informed.

By the way, here are the folks behind this poll:

Indiana University’s Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research performs quick turnaround research on the topics of health-care financing, the uninsured, medical education/training, and ethical, professional and legal issues pertaining to physician practice. CHPPR is housed within the IU School of Medicine on the Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis campus.

What bias could they possibly have?

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, August 25th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

13 Responses to “Majority Believe In Healthcare ‘Myths’”

  1. proreason says:

    Fantastic analysis Steve.

    Is there anything the Obamastration says that is truthful?

    Why do they have to lie all the time?

    • BannedbytheTaliban says:

      They don’t lie, they are the only source of the truth. That is until they contradict themselves, then the new lie is the truth. For example:

      1. There are no Death Panels
      2. Well, maybe there is a panel, but it is optional and not a Death Panel
      3. The non-existant Death Panel language will be removed
      4. End of life consuling is necessary and has bipartisan support

      See. Obama has said these things regarding Palin’s “Death Panels.” And they are all true.

    • proreason says:

      Banned, yes. I’ve written about that technique a couple of times. It’s called Affirmative Lying.

      Basically, you change the story in short increments, with the expectation that the other party will eventually give up before you have to actually tell the truth.

      Example for Rev Wright:
      – he never said those things.
      – maybe he said some of them, but I wasn’t there
      – ok, he said them, but you have taken them out of context
      – etc., etc.

  2. BannedbytheTaliban says:

    So what were the other 10 “myths” they asked about? Sorry, I ment axed about.

  3. GetBackJack says:

    Consider –

    Savings and Loan “failures”
    Bank failures

    HIV “pandemic”
    Swine flu “pandemic’

    Hillary Care
    ObamaCare

    That’s too much coincidence.

    Particularly when you know that the H1N1 vaccine was patented in 2007 BEFORE anyone knew of swine flu.

    US patent application 20090060950

    So … at the height of the Hillary Care debate HIV was being fear mongered as potentially the worst pandemic mankind would ever see.

    At the zenith of the Takeover of America by the Democrats and their enemy allies guess what? Health Care debate again and a (shazzam) killer flu virus “pandemic” about to sweep the world.

    That’s too much coincidence.

  4. Liberals Demise says:

    See what you get when you defibrillator the old Clinton WH and put a real uppity negro in charge? Somebody count the hands that are out …………. palms up!

    Bubba? You didn’t do it right!!

  5. beautyofreason says:

    How is it a myth when you know it’s true? The bill contains a provision to treat all illegal immigrants. It doesn’t mention abortion and a Democratic senator at a town hall meeting says it will cover abortion….the bill involves the government in end of life decisions though it does not explicitly state what that means…

    These health care “myths” are realities, not myths. The socialist Democrats are trying to win without going into details, just like Obama in the 2008 campaign.

    Why should I trust Obama?

    Cut the deficit? (obama 2008) – It has risen by trillions – $130 k per family of 4

    Reduce taxes? (obama 2008) – public option would tax non-users 2.5%,
    business taxes over health insurance are increasing the costs of services, hasn’t ruled out taxes for people making over 100k (originally said 250k)

    Protect and defend the Constitution of the United States? (obama 2009) what part of the Constitution allows government to takeover the auto industry? Why release the terrorists in Guantanamo, including a guy who killed a U.S. soldier with a grenade?

    Why, why, why would I ever trust that politically correct socialist who was elected on dishonest campaign promises to the highest office in our country? Eloquent speaking won’t make up for that 130k the government has taxed from my family alone since the moron came to office.

  6. MinnesotaRush says:

    I am laughing so hard I’m damn near crying. My gut hurts.

    “Among the results on items the White House considers myths:..”

    Look at those results! The dems are on the wrong side to huge degrees on EVERYTHING!!! It really affirms what everybody’s been saying for years. These dems .. these libs .. are SO far out of touch with reality. It’s laughable and breathtaking all at once. These idyllic dummies just really believe that their “vision for the Country and World” is just so “thee way”; but when realistic, thinking, and experienced people weigh in on this crap .. they’re seeing and saying .. “uh uh”.

    Whatta hoot .. and they .. just don’t get it!!!

  7. http://www.tygrrrrexpress.com/2008/06/meeting-harry-reid/

    April 19, 2007 At UCLA with Rob Reiner
    Reid: “Hillarycare should have passed. We should have single payer. There are pluses to socialized medicine. This will not be done in one year. It takes time, and needs to be done in increments.”

    Reid: “I called Alan Greenspan ‘the biggest fraud, the J. Edgar Hoover of the financial world.’ He was ‘the biggest political hack in Washington, immediately cozying up to President Bush.’ I call them like I see them.

    Reid:“In Searchlight, the closest thing I had to religion in my house was FDR. ”

    http://www.dnc.org/a/2006/01/senate_democrat_15.php

    “Good morning. I’m Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic Leader of the United States Senate.

    “I went to college in the 1960s and studied government. I remember discussing a quote by Lord Acton – “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.”

    “It’s been many years since I graduated college, but I finally understand what Lord Acton meant.

    “Republicans today control the House of Representatives, the Senate and the White House. They have absolute power, and it has corrupted their Party and led to the culture of corruption that we now have in Washington, DC.

  8. daughter of the king says:

    we have to remember that in liberal speak the word “myth” actually means “darn, they figured it out…now how do we keep all those people we managed to dumb down over the last few generations on board? ok..we’ve got it…liberals aren’t too smart (thank heaven), so we’ll just tell them that truth isn’t truth, truth is myth!!! that ought to do it.” the combined ignorance of all the leftists in this country could be the answer to the “energy crisis.” that doesn’t exist. All that hot air ought to be used to fuel all their cute little cars, and poisonous light bulbs, and we could even give them a whole state to fuel all by themselves…like , oh, i don’t know..Oregon? Personally i think we really need to look at our voting policy. Remember, it IS NOT A RIGHT!

  9. Chuckk says:

    When the government gets into the health care business (or the automobile business or banking), decisions will be made for political reasons, not for reasons having to do with good medicine. I think most people realize this.

  10. canary says:

    The first lady to speak at town meeting I went to screamed for several minutes. And then gave the Senator a mean look, and asked “are you going to do something about it”. Well, she mentioned 100’s of thousands of dollars she owed, and I thought, well, she got 100’s and thousands of dollars of free health care. Also, the Senator said alot of people are entitled to sign up for help, but they don’t. And I know someone exactly like that. Is disabled, and only has to do the paperwork, they constantly try and help her, and she is too irresponsible and selfish, and rakes up big emergency bills. One hospital just wanted her to fill out forms she wasn’t working. The injury at that time, she could not work, and she got excellent care for monthes, and she was to selfish to fill out the records. She is always rude, acts like they owe her, and complains.

  11. wardmama4 says:

    Ok – here is a ‘myth’ for you:

    SCHIP, Medicaid, Medicare, Public Health Service (Indian Reservations), and Veterans Administration – all Government Health Care Programs –

    Who in America, who is in need – isn’t covered with the above – chidren, low income families, resident aliens, disabled, elderly, Indians (of all ages), and eligible Veterans.

    I don’t know about you – but that pretty much covers the very people the Liberals whine about, doesn’t it?!?

    BTW, while on Conan – Bill Maher said – ‘60% aren’t for Healthcare Reform – Americans are stupid, we must drag them to do the right thing.’

    This people, is how liberals/progressives/leftists view their fellow citizens – for an agenda of simply power and control.

    How tolerant and inclusive and, wait it’s coming to me – how democratic of them to violate the ‘will of the majority’ for their own beliefs. How un-American can you get?!?


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