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Media ‘Fact Checkers’ Lie About Ryan Speech

Here is just one example of the literally dozens of ‘fact check’ articles that have been breathlessly rushed out overnight after Paul Ryan’s speech at the Republican convention.

This one is from the stunningly ‘fact free’ propagandists at the Associated Press:

FACT CHECK: Ryan takes factual shortcuts in speech

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and JACK GILLUM | August 30, 2012

WASHINGTON (AP) — Laying out the first plans for his party’s presidential ticket, GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan took some factual shortcuts Wednesday night when he attacked President Barack Obama’s policies on Medicare, the economic stimulus and the budget deficit

The AP goes on to, once again, falsely claim that Obama-Care does not $716 billion dollars from Medicare, and that Obama’s stimulus was not a matter of political patronage and corporate welfare.

But here is how they present their latest big lie:

RYAN: Said Obama misled people in Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, Wis., by making them think a General Motors plant there threatened with closure could be saved. "A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: `I believe that if our government is there to support you … this plant will be here for another hundred years.’ That’s what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn’t last another year."

THE FACTS: The plant halted production in December 2008, weeks before Obama took office and well before he enacted a more robust auto industry bailout that rescued GM and Chrysler and allowed the majority of their plants – though not the Janesville facility – to stay in operation. Ryan himself voted for an auto bailout under President George W. Bush that was designed to help GM, but he was a vocal critic of the one pushed through by Obama that has been widely credited with revitalizing both GM and Chrysler…

Unfortunately, there are several problems with the AP’s ‘facts.’

First of all, the Janesville plant did not close in December 2008, it closed in April 2009. But some ‘fact checkers’ quibble that, since GM announced it was going to close the Janesville plant in December of 2008, that is close enough. But the fact is the Janesville plant did not close until April 2009.

Also, it’s clear from Obama’s press release and speech back in February 2008 that Obama did indeed mislead people "by making them think a General Motors plant there threatened with closure could be saved."

Obama’s promise was spelled out in a press release, as reported by the Associated Press:

Obama comments on Janesville GM plant

Posted: 10.11.2008

(AP) — MILWAUKEE – The news Friday night that General Motors is expected to speed up its plan to stop production at Janesville brought a comment from Democratic residential candidate Barack Obama who stopped at the plant there while campaigning earlier in the year.

"Reports that the GM plant I visited in Janesville may shut down sooner than expected are a painful reminder of the tough economic times facing working families across this country," Obama said in a statement released by his Wisconsin campaign organization.

"This news is also a reminder that Washington needs to finally live up to its promise to help our automakers compete in our global economy. As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America."

And here is the pertinent excerpt from Obama’s 2008 Janesville speech, via the Council On Foreign Relations:

Obama’s Speech in Janesville, Wisconsin

Published February 13, 2008

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama gave this speech at the General Motors plant in Janesville, Wisconsin on February 13, 2008.

… I believe that we can create millions of… jobs around a clean, renewable energy future…

Orion Energy Systems works with companies to reduce their electricity use and carbon emissions. And Tower Tech is now making wind turbines that are being sold all over the world. Hundreds of people have found new work, and unemployment has been cut in half. This can be America’s future.

I know that General Motors received some bad news yesterday, and I know how hard your Governor has fought to keep jobs in this plant. But I also know how much progress you’ve made – how many hybrids and fuel-efficient vehicles you’re churning out. And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.

Obama is talking about the Janesville plant. He promised the audience he would give them the assistance they need, via his ‘green energy’ spending, to re-tool the plant so it would be open for another hundred years. Just like Paul Ryan said.

The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, it’s where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that’s the future I’ll fight for as your President.

My energy plan will invest $150 billion over ten years to establish a green energy sector that will create up to 5 million new jobs over the next two decades – jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced. We’ll also provide funding to help manufacturers convert to green technology and help workers learn the skills they need for these jobs.

We know that all of this must be done in a responsible way, without adding to the already obscene debt that has grown by four trillion dollars under George Bush

As Mr. Ryan noted, the plant in Janesville still has not been re-tooled. But Obama did add an obscene amount of debt to the already obscene debt.

And yet another problem with the AP’s so-called facts is that Obama wasn’t promising to save the Janesville plant with a bailout. He was promising to save it with stimulus spending on green technology.

(By the way, in this same speech Obama also said: ‘My universal health care plan brings down the cost of health care more than any other candidate in this race, and will save the typical family up to $2500 a year on their premiums." He also said a dozen other outrageous lies that no one in the news media ever ‘fact checked’ him on.)

But this is what the news media of today calls’ fact checking’. In reality, they have thoroughly perverted the term. In fact, they now seem to reserve their biggest whoppers their fact checking articles. The lies they seem to think are the most important to foist on the gullible public.

Indeed, according to this and other recent ‘fact checks,’ Obama didn’t cut welfare reform, because it was really Republican governors who demanded that he gut welfare reform. (Which, of course, is a lie.) And Obama didn’t gut welfare by $716 billion dollars because Paul Ryan’s plan also guts welfare by $716 billion. (Which, of course, is a lie.)

And now we are told that GM did close its Janesville plant in 2008 under Bush, even though it didn’t really shut down until April 2009.

But it’s gotten to the point now that whenever you see an article claiming to be a ‘fact check,’ you can be sure it is really just a shameless twisting of the facts.

This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Thursday, August 30th, 2012. Comments are currently closed.

10 Responses to “Media ‘Fact Checkers’ Lie About Ryan Speech”

  1. GetBackJack

    I’m beginning to think the AP is confused about the meaning of the term “fact-check”

  2. Astravogel

    Be careful what you say or represent, the TSA is watching you!

  3. klassylady

    It wasn’t a lie. The plant did close in 2010. Found it on the first hit off the internet.

    http://www.gazettextra.com/new.....ant-close/

  4. klassylady

    Oh, and in case you want argue about his mother taking a bus from Janesville to Madison….
    There is a company called: Van Galder

    “We have been providing professional motorcoach services to our valued customers in and around Wisconsin for more than sixty years.”

    And yes it does go to Madison daily.

    http://www.coachusa.com/vangalder/

  5. bccnp1

    GM had planned to shut this plant down by 2010 or sooner if the market demand dictates. The market dictated and the last SUV rolled of the line December 23, 2008.
    The closing process had begun and Isuzu workers stayed on to finish up an order.
    I was a done deal. It was GM’s decision not Barack Obama’s.
    That’s what cracks me up first he is blamed for the car bailout and now he is blamed because he didn’t stop this before he was President. Which is it guys.
    Obama was pushing his vision of the future as he campaigned.
    He just can’t micro manage some car plant.
    This was all part of GM’s realignment.
    For Ryan to pretend Obama let this all happen is intellectually dishonest. Check out the banner in the article below. It was over.

    Obama could not have saved Janesville GM plant. It closed before he took office.
    Posted by Dylan Matthews on August 30, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ok-office/

    Workers watch last Chevy Tahoe roll off assembly line in Janesville
    By Joe Taschler of the Journal Sentinel
    Dec. 23, 2008
    Janesville – Workers finished the final production shift and walked out of the General Motors plant Tuesday, personal belongings and unchecked emotions in tow, never again likely to see the inside of the sprawling industrial complex that provided a livelihood and a way of life for generations.
    That the last vehicle rolled off the line on a gloomy late December day punctuated by snow and biting wind under a sodden gray sky seemed appropriate.
    The world has known for months that this day was coming. That did little to deflect the gut-punch it delivered.
    “The hardest thing is that it finally hit home for a lot of people, like a death in the family that you knew was coming,” said Rick Banach, who spent the last few years working at the GM plant after living through another shutdown at the Delphi plant in Oak Creek.
    “Today they pulled the plug. There were a lot of tears and hugs, but also a sense of pride,” Banach said.

    http://www.jsonline.com/business/36626494.html

    Plants in Moraine, Ohio, and Janesville, Wisconsin, are slated for closure in 2010 “or sooner if market demand dictates,” GM said.

    http://www.france24.com/en/200.....automobile

    GM to Speed Up Closure of Janesville Plant

    UPDATED Wednesday, July 16, 2008 — 7:40 a.m.
    http://www.nbc15.com/news/headlines/25461689.html

    Thursday is last day of production as Isuzu line comes to end
    By JIM LEUTE ( Contact ) Tuesday, April 21, 2009
    http://gazettextra.com/news/20.....comes-end/

    The Isuzu line and its employees have been producing about 25 trucks four days a week

    Hugs, tears as GM workers leave Janesville plant for last time
    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Posted Dec 23, 2008 @ 06:52 AM

    About 50 workers will remain at the Janesville plant to complete an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors Ltd. They’re scheduled to finish by May or June, and then the plant will close down for good, GM spokesman Christopher Lee said.

    Hard times hit Janesville as GM plant winds down
    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Posted Dec 17, 2008 @ 06:32 AM

    A skeleton crew will remain in Janesville after the last full-sized General Motors SUV is assembled Dec. 23. That will finish off a small joint venture producing trucks for Isuzu. But most of the plant’s 1,200 workers will join 3,000 others in the area who have lost auto-related jobs since June.

    • Steve

      You really should have read the original post. You should also have read CNN’s fact check, which was actually factual.

      Indeed, you should have read some of the material you posted. Such as:

      Hugs, tears as GM workers leave Janesville plant for last time

      THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
      Posted Dec 23, 2008 @ 06:52 AM

      About 50 workers will remain at the Janesville plant to complete an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors Ltd. They’re scheduled to finish by May or June, and then the plant will close down for good, GM spokesman Christopher Lee said

      Mr. Obama was the President in April 2009. In fact, he was also the titular owner of GM. He ordered them to make the Volt against their wishes. Why not keep this plant open?

      But I realize it is probably futile to try to reason with a closed mind.

  6. canary

    bccnp, Dear God. Barack Obama just sent me an e-mail at 1:00 am in the morning Subject “Their Night….”

    By the way it was just the Tahoo SUV alone that was stopped being made with the 2008. They continued building other autos at that plant.

    GM is GM They could have saved any plant they wanted.
    And we know GM out and out lied in those commercials showing their brand new fleet; lied that they had paid back their loan when they never will.

    I’d say Obama did micro-manage GM, when he blew Multimillions of dollars for his personal trips with his entourage and AF-1s. checking on his work and presenting new GM vehicles on the run way for the workers and brag about what he did. Millions of dollars for his post-presidential documentary and photo album.

    • canary

      460 million into new GM engine plant for new mid-size cars engines to keep up with the rest of the auto’s companies whose changes are at the speed of light. Thanks to owner and UAW for this encouragement.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe4CcJJTfAs

      They left out the price of their rising star the new Malibu. And what happened to the lower class who need cars they can afford?

    • canary

      GM didn’t want this out until after the recent news they won’t be paying back their loan.

  7. canary

    bccnp1, we would appreciate such dedication to a list of Obama’s lies as no one in media will do it. Nice to have you aboard.


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