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Michael Moore: This Really Is Class War

From MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow Show, via YouTube:

Michael Moore on the Rachel Maddow Show — March 9th, 2011

[Our transcription of the ‘highlights’:]

Maddow: Joining us now in studio is award winning film maker Michael Moore, fresh off his own very well received barn-burning speech in Madison this weekend. Michael thank you for being here.

Moore: Thanks for having me, and I, I just want to say, anyone who lives within driving distance of Madison, Wisconsin right now should make their way to the capital. I would love to see thousands of people there right now, there in that capital building, in that rotunda, out on the lawn, whatever it takes. I mean really, this is really, this is war. This is a class war that’s been leveled against the working people of this country and at some point people are just going to have to stand up and say – nonviolently – ‘This is enough, we’re not taking it anymore.’

And I think these actions that happened today in Wisconsin, and in Michigan, where the Governor, and, and well the senate today in Michigan, the House has already passed a version of this bill, they’re going to get together hopefully, that’s their plan, and the Governor will sign it, and um, they are stripping the democratic rights of the people of the state of Michigan. They literally at this point, the Governor can dissolve a town, the elected officials of a town. A month ago, if you or I on this show, had said, you know what, we think, Rachel and I think that the government should have the ability to remove the elected mayor and city council of any town it feels like and put in one guy in charge of the town. What do you think would have been written or said about us? The fact that they think they could get away with this?

At least Charlie Sheen has the excuse that he’s probably hopped up on cocaine, and crystal meth and porn stars. What excuse does Michael Moore have for gibbering like this?

[1:30] I mean, you said it all in the last segment there: what happened three years ago in 2008, um, what happened is that they realized that they could get away with murder. They realized that they could literally loot the Treasury, they could play with people’s pension funds on Wall Street, they could destroy the economy, they could essentially do what they could to eliminate the middle class, and there would be no response from the people, there would be no revolt. People would just take it and people took it. People have been taking this now for about thirty years…

Bear in mind that Mr. Moore seems to be talking about Republicans here and not the Democrat Party.

[E]ver since Reagan fired the air-traffic controllers, and we should have stopped them then. We shouldn’t have crossed those picket lines, people shouldn’t have flown those planes. And once they saw they could get away with that thirty years ago, bit by bit by bit right up until 2008, and that was the big enchilada for them and they got away with it. People didn’t do anything about it. None of them went to jail. None of them are in jail for this theft. And so it comes now 2011, ‘Hey, why don’t we just vote to just take away people’s democratic rights! We can just eliminate the mayor of a town, we can just dissolve a school district! We can, in Wisconsin, we can just take away the right of working people to sit down and talk across a table about the things that are of concern to them.’ They think they can get away with this, they honestly think they can get away with this. And I don’t think they will get away with it.

Will Mr. Moore or Ms. Maddow be blamed for any violence across the country from people following his exhortations?

[2:50] And I hope that tomorrow people are in Michigan, are in that Lansing rotunda packing that place. On Friday afternoon, the students, I just read this on the internet, the students in Madison, Wisconsin are calling for not only in Wisconsin but a nationwide student walkout of high schoolers, last hour of school, 2 o’clock in the afternoon, wherever 2 o’clock is in your time zone, you walk out of that school and call the local media and blog about it and take pictures and get everybody organized. There’s going to be a massive student walk out Friday afternoon. Tomorrow in Indiana, 20,000 people you mentioned there, hopefully more, at the state capital. This has to continue day after day after day. And these Governors are going to have to step down, they’re going to be recalled, they’re going to be impeached. They’ve broken the law. There’s no way they can get away with this.

Wasn’t Mr. Moore just decrying how the Republicans are removing elected officials? Which, of course, is some kind of hysteric fantasy. But isn’t he actually calling for the very same thing he was weirdly and falsely accusing the Republicans of doing?

Is he working with Col. Kaddafi’s speech writer? (Assuming Kaddafi’s speech writer is non-union.)

[3:38] Maddow: How does it make a difference for people to protest? How does it make a difference, that student walkout? Tonight in Madison, how does it translate into making a difference?

Moore: It’s already made a difference. Look at the change just in the polls you just cited. Just in one month, the public opinion of the Governor of Wisconsin, of the legislature, of support for unions and their rights, everything has turned in favor of the working people, and it’s been because the people of Madison have been there every single day and they’ve and they’ve helped to turn people around on this.

Of course the non-stop barrage of union sponsored anti-Walker commercials on Wisconsin television may have had something to do with this. And the media has done the rest with their artfully skewed polls.

The American people have woken up and I think that this is… I mean, as I said in that speech in Madison, four hundred Americans now have amassed more wealth than fifty percent of the American households combined. Four hundred people have more than a hundred and fifty-five million people – combined! Is that the… I’m sorry, that’s not the country I live in. I refuse to participate in this and I’m going to do my part, whatever I can, to get the word out and get people involved.

We take it Mr. Moore, who is a multi-millionaire many times over, is hereby offering to give away some of his filthy lucre. Where do we sign up for our share? Should we go to his website?

These protests do matter. In fact, this is one of the few times I can say that in my lifetime. actually going to a protest really has made a difference. And people have got to come out of their homes tomorrow in Lansing, in Madison, in Indianapolis. They’re planning a huge in Madison on Saturday afternoon, and this going to continue on in other states.

The problem is that nobody how many people protest, you can’t change the laws of economics. Broke is broke.

[5:05] Maddow: I have a theory on why protests feel more effective on this issue than they have on every other issue that you or I have observed or participated in the last twenty years, and I think that is because of the political brittleness of what it is they’re trying to do. It’s important to recognize that these guys didn’t campaign on stripping collective bargaining rights. They may have demonized unions, they may have talked about downsizing government, they may have talked about some of those other things, but they didn’t campaign on dissolving towns by fiat, they didn’t campaign on dissolving collective bargaining rights. And the reason they didn’t is because they’re unpopular. And they’re justifying them now by saying there’s a crisis. But all it takes is some political push-back against that, and it collapses, it seems to me it collapses very easily.

[5:50] Moore: Yes, and information. You, others have provided this information. We’re not broke. Wisconsin isn’t broke. America isn’t broke. We have trillions of dollars in our economy. The problem is that the money isn’t where it needs to be. Those four hundred people, and the upper one percent, their allies, took that money out of circulation. They took that money and it’s not there anymore and they’re not being taxed appropriately and that’s why that money isn’t there.

Those bastards have taken our money. By the way, this is exactly the same thing the communists are saying in Greece, right before they set a car on fire with a Molotov cocktail.

There’s a revenue problem, that’s all there is. It’s not because there’s debt. There’s always debt. If you make car payments you’re in debt. That doesn’t mean you’re broke. Wisconsin isn’t broke. America isn’t broke. The money’s just not in the people’s hands, it’s in the hands of the rich, the rich who committed these crimes back on Wall Street and they got away with it. And that’s why this, I have these, I brought these, Rachel. This is my prop for the night, just out of confetti… [a pair of metal handcuffs]

It would be even more entertaining to watch this super-sized ‘Beaver Cleaver’ try to conduct a ‘citizen’s arrest’ than seeing Barney Fife in action. And the resulting lawsuits would be even more hilarious.

Maddow: Could we have a wide shot of what Mr. Moore has brought with him?

[6:40] Moore: I brought these with me. I’d like anyone who works on Wall Street, anyone who works at one of the banks, take a look at this OK?  This is what’s coming. This is for you, because the people aren’t going to take it anymore. The people are going to demand justice, they’re going to demand that your ass is in jail. You’ve taken our money, we want the money back. You’ve taken jobs overseas, we want those jobs back. Those are a national resource, those are not yours to do with as you please. They affect all of us as a society. We have a right to those jobs. We have a right to that money that used to belong to the people of this country, a million people evicted from their homes this year, another million expected this year. I just want to again if I can, just address the Wall Streeters and the Banksters out there: How many more people do you think you can throw out of their homes before they do revolt? How long do you think this is going to go on?

Say what you will about Mr. Moore. He presents the Democrat point of view without sugar coating it. After all, he doesn’t have to get elected.

But just bear in mind – this is exactly what every Democrat believes in his heart of hearts.

This article was posted by Steve on Thursday, March 10th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

21 Responses to “Michael Moore: This Really Is Class War”

  1. proreason says:

    Yes it is class warfare.

    Will 7% be able to continue to force 93% to fund their outsized lifestyles.

    If hate, lawlessness and violence is still as acceptable in the US in 2011 as it was in the Middle Ages, then the answer is yes. They will continue to force their will down our throats.

  2. Rusty Shackleford says:

    Michael Moore a flaming pustule of a runaway liberal rash. Who knew?

    “There’s going to be a massive student walk out Friday afternoon…. This has to continue day after day after day.”

    Yes, it reminds me of that time in the 5th grade when I told my teacher, “I’ll show you, I’ll just fail this test. Then you’ll be sorry!”

    Michael, you have such convoluted thinking, it’s amazing you can even dress yourself. How will a “student walkout” help anything at all? What is the position here, that…uh…”Students understand that if teachers don’t get what they want and get paid their ridiculous benefits packages via my parents’ tax dollars, they are going to be less effective teachers!”


    Michael obviously never had to do any really hard thinking in his education career. But, I’ve already spent more time than this fat slob is worth…but there is so much of him that’s worthy of criticism.

    One other thing, looking at photos of him and his wife, they truly are suitable for DC (AKA: “Hollywood for ugly people”).

  3. David says:

    Math check!

    Those four hundred people, and the upper one percent, their allies, took that money out of circulation. They took that money and it’s not there anymore and they’re not being taxed appropriately and that’s why that money isn’t there.

    1. Since there are 114 million households in the US the top 1% is over a million (mostly two income) families, not 400.
    2. Putting aside the moral travesty of stealing all the wealth of the top 400 people, if we equally split up the $1.37 trillion (Forbes) owned by those 400, each household in the US will get about $12k. A nice check but certainly not life changing.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Math wasn’t Mike’s strong suit in HS. He was busy working in the AV lab and trying to figure out ways to get free stuff out of the vending machines.

    • proreason says:

      The problem is that there are millions of people in this country who will literally do anything for $12K. Not because, as you say, it is life-changing, but because they are so stupid that they think it is life changing.

      Most people who win windfalls in lotteries are soon again broke. They have no idea how much they won or how to make it last. It doesn’t matter if it’s 1 thousand, 1 million or 10 million; they go through it like a knife through butter, and are back on the dole in short order.

  4. tranquil.night says:

    Oh yeaaah!

    You can get the sense just from the text how long he’s been itching for this to come. He’s probably shedding poundage from the sheer excitement.

  5. untrainable says:

    To quote that great American philosopher Bugs Bunny : “What a maroon”
    Moore should be deported to Cuba. Maybe their wonderful healthcare system can do something about his brain damage.

  6. JohnMG says:

    …..”At least Charlie Sheen has the excuse that he’s probably hopped up on cocaine, and crystal meth and porn stars. What excuse does Michael Moore have for gibbering like this?….”

    Fat cells. They’ve occluded his brain waves. They’ve occluded his brain.

    Even Madd(c)ow gets it when she says…..” Could we have a wide shot of what Mr. Moore has brought with him?” What, other than a WIDE shot, could capture the essence of Michael Moore? Now if he’d just suffocate in his own fat folds……

  7. retire05 says:

    When I grow up can I too, be a fat bastard in a baseball cap that refuses to use union workers on his movies and sends his kids to a private [non-union] school?

    Moore-on is worth an estimated $10 MILLION. Can we start the redistribution plan with his money?

  8. wardmama4 says:

    What a lying, duplicitous liberal.

    Here’s hoping that now that he’s arrived – This ‘protest’ becomes irrelevant – and psst Union in WI – you might want to gird your accountants for the bill he will probably send you for his ‘gracing’ your protest with his ‘presence’.

    Or he just might sue you.

    His last movie wasn’t seen by anyone outside of DC – so he is in need of money.

  9. pilgrim1949 says:

    Well, it WOULD have been “class” warfare, but then the Libs and that boil-on-the-buttocks-of-humanity Mikie Moore showed up.

    From there it was only a natural entropic descent into “totally-without-class” warfare at its partisan ugliest (in all meanings of that word).

    Nice, however, for the masks to come off and these self-centered, grasping anarchists to be fully seen for what they truly are at heart.

    Light — a wonderful disinfectant.

  10. canary says:

    Rusty, I agree with you. It’s against school regulations for students to leave school, and could hurt their grades and their affect college. Schools micro-manage, but I’m guessing in Wisconsin those that walk out would be rewarded.

    Micheal Moore is simply trying to capitalize on the younger crowd as the older crowd sees through him.
    Perhaps he’s doing a documentary. I’ve never seen any of his documentaries, considering the source.

  11. I always thought “F@t B@st@rd” was just a character played by Michael Myers in the Austin Powers movies..

    Sorry.. Hyperbole

    So.. from Moore’s hijacking our youth website:
    “Although I’ve long since left your age group, I’ve been so inspired by recent events that I’d like to do my bit and lend a hand. I’ve decided to turn over a part of my website to high school students so they — you — can have the opportunity to get the word out to millions more people. For a long time I’ve wondered, how come we don’t hear the true voices of teenagers in our mainstream media? Why is your voice any less valid than an adult’s?” then …

    Why must we silence or keep out of sight the voice of our teenagers?

    It’s not that way in other countries. The voting age in places like Austria, Brazil or Nicaragua is 16. In France, students can shut down the country by simply walking out of school and taking to the streets.”

    This guy is a tool. An inciteful overgrown radioactive rat.

  12. Chuckk says:

    I notice that Moore stayed safely in NYC while inciting the union thugs. Typical.

    Of course if Moore did go to the capital there would be a lot less room for other protestors.

  13. canary says:

    If Micheal Moore can hold up hand cuffs with chains and threaten imprisonment and bondage, someone should do a cartoon of Micheal Moore standing on the cliff of a sea with a large rope and stone tied to it.

  14. Mithrandir says:

    This guy is so easy to debunk, it’s ridiculous!

    MOORE is filthy rich, mostly on profits from his movie F.9-11, about the war he opposed. When will he (and David Letterman) stop complaining about teachers, and start writing checks to them?

    “Wall Street should be in jail……”
    –NO, these people will never be punished. Obama had a chance to do it, he didn’t cut off funding from these lobbyists.

    “You’ve taken jobs overseas, we want those jobs back.”
    –The jobs you never risked investment in, are not yours to decide. The little red hens can do as they want. ….And your expensive UNIONS chased them away! (see: Detroit)

    “Those are a national resource, those are not yours to do with as you please.”
    –Jobs are intangible objects. They are invented or destroyed at a whim. If you don’t create them with your effort, then they are not yours to own or decide.

    “We have a right to those jobs.”
    –A job is not a right. How do you enforce this “right?” How do you make one job equal to another? How do you give or not give a job to someone based on race or gender, or past discrimination?

    Petty, childish ranting, pouting, demanding unreasonable nonsense, is childlike dependency upon the gov’t to paternalistically hand out and cover up every uncertainty resulting from freedom: http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Mind-Psychological-Political-Madness/dp/097795630X

  15. sheehanjihad says:

    Moore! Look, shut the eff up and give ALL of your money to deserving people. Get real poor, stop blathering on about class warfare when you own more than 90% of the class you claim to be the champion for.

    Remember the sage words of a Navy Master Chief….” in a sh*t throwing contest, it isn’t the amount of sh*t you throw, it’s how much is stuck to you when it’s over with”.

    Words to remember fat boy. Now stop remembering how you were treated in high school, stop acting like you are in middle school, and really try to upgrade your brain to elementary school, you worthless blowhard pig.

    That isn’t chocolate pudding on your face either….and you don’t seem to smell so good.

  16. Reality Bytes says:

    What A Hypocrit – with emphasis on Hippo of course!

    You know if we were so Christian, somebody would put a microscope up Moore’s finances & life style. How many award points does this guy enjoy from his stays in The Four Seasons, flying around in his private jet while commuting to the local Motel 6 for his interviews with that stupid asshat of his.



    “Moore uses a private jet on his book tours and stays at the Ritz Carlton hotel when in London, but conducts press interviews in a cheap hotel nearby to give reporters the impression he is staying there instead. Moore calls himself “an Average Joe from Flint, MI” and says, “Once you’re working class, you’re always working class”. The reality is that hypocrite Moore lives a luxury-class lifestyle out of reach of most Flint residents.”

    According to Reuters in June 2007, Moore is reported to have hidden assets in Canada in reaction to an official investigation. Moore was operating offshore in Cuba allegedly as a “journalistic endeavor.” The United States Treasury Department does not confirm or deny the existence of investigations.

    So it’s the same old dance with a new grass skirt (as Rush would say).

    Commendeer the citizenries’ money in order to ensure you keep yours!


  17. Dagwood says:

    Moore is right, it is class war. It’s a war between those of us in this country who still have some sense of class and decorum, and those without any class or capacity for shame (as they’ve so willingly displayed in Madison).

  18. oldpuppydixie says:

    What the hell would Michael Moore know about CLASS??!!

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