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Muslim B’hood: We Will Topple US Allies

From an unfazed Associated Press:

Jordan’s opposition: Arabs will topple tyrants

By Jamal Halaby, Associated Press Sat Jan 29, 2011

AMMAN, Jordan – The leader of Jordan’s powerful Muslim Brotherhood warned Saturday that unrest in Egypt will spread across the Mideast and Arabs will topple leaders allied with the United States.

Hammam Saeed’s comments were made at a protest outside the Egyptian Embassy in Amman, inspired by massive rallies in neighboring Egypt demanding the downfall of the country’s longtime president, Hosni Mubarak.

About 100 members of the fundamentalist group and activists from other leftist organizations and trade unions chanted "Mubarak, step down" and "the decision is made, the people’s revolt will remain." …

Saeed said Arabs have grown disgruntled with U.S. domination of their oil wealth, military occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and its support for "totalitarian" leaders in the region.

"The Americans and (President Barack) Obama must be losing sleep over the popular revolt in Egypt," he said. "Now, Obama must understand that the people have woken up and are ready to unseat the tyrant leaders who remained in power because of U.S. backing."…

"We tell the Americans ‘enough is enough’," he said…

We suspect that Mr. Saeed is mistaken about Mr. Obama "losing sleep."

This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, January 29th, 2011. Comments are currently closed.

11 Responses to “Muslim B’hood: We Will Topple US Allies”

  1. River says:

    This may be very good for us in the west. Now that violent radicals smell blood in the water they’re certain to overplay their hand. The Muslim Brotherhood threatens all the prosperous Arab oil states in the region with chaos and collapse. The Saudis will lead the charge against the really bad guys, in their own interest, and the more moderate Arabs in the Arab League will want to keep the non-Arab IslamoNazis – funded by Iran – out of the region also.

    Egyptians as a whole don’t want Iranian-style theocracy,

    • hushpuppy says:

      River (and others): you are making a huge mistake by making an artificial differentiation between ‘radicalized’ muslims (ie The Muslim Brotherhood) and ‘moderate arabs’. The koran makes no such differentiation. All muslims are muslims and follow the koran as if it was some kind of holy book. What it is is a how-to on how to make war, kill, steal, lie and do whatever is necessary in order to:

      1) benefit islam
      2) enslave Christians, Jews and other non-believers
      3) set fire to the world so that their end-time imam comes and unifies the world under the flag of islam.

      What is so wrongly referred to as ‘moderate’ muslims are those who haven’t killed anyone – yet… because killing enemies is one of the 5 pillars of islam.

      “Egyptians as a whole don’t want Iranian-style theocracy.”

      Don't kid yourself – they want Egypt to be under the flag of islam – not a dictatorship.

      I can’t stress this enough: study the koran – know your enemy – listen to books like ‘The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades’. It’s an excellent primer.

      Here’s the link: http://tinyurl.com/4u67m29

      All muslims are taught to hate and distrust everyone that isn’t a muslim! People in the west really need to repeat this to themselves as many times as necessary in order to get that one, simple fact firmly anchored into their heads.

  2. GetBackJack says:

    As I said the previous news story. the essential question is … Why Now?

    That any of this was on the burner, simmering is always the case, but who decided that “now” is the time to bring it to a boil? What’s changed behind the scenes … who went up, who went down, what impediment has been swept aside, etc etc? Why now is the question?

  3. River0 says:

    You’re partly right, hushpuppy; but largely wrong. Sharia Law – the backbone of traditional Islam – is not universally popular among Muslims worldwide. There’s a huge fault line in Islam, and countries that embrace IslamoNazis are horribly backward. People who aren’t mentally ill don’t want to be poor and ignorant. Iran is a powder keg, and the Mullahs know it. There’s huge discontent there, just as in Egypt. We need to exploit it, but Obama and his Keystone Kops haven’t been doing the job.

    You’ve fallen into the trap of referring to ancient Scripture and then assuming that religious people will follow and act in lockstep with it. This is what radical Islamists do also to condemn Christians. You can take excerpts out of the Judeo-Christian Bible – advocating slavery and burning witches and homosexuals, etc. – and slander all Christians and Jews with them.

    • tranquil.night says:

      River, it’s funny though, you just don’t see majorities of Christians making those connections, nor radical groups focussed solely on acting on them, nor any of them raging in the streets for fundamentalist reforms, even in the countries like Egypt where Christians are blown up by Muslims all the time.

      We do, however, see this happen with Islam in practically every country to which they emigrate.

      Some S&Ler (likely Tater as he’s pretty much your go to guy for relevant information on this) posted a CIA handbook notation detailing at what percentage of Muslim population levels a country can expect in terms of activism. Basically at below 10% the group is essentially benign immigrants; above 10% and, like we’re beginning to see here in the US, they’ll begin organizing at municipal and state levels for certain “moderate” moral provisions to erode the integrity of universal secular Western law on the basis of freedom of worship. At 25-30%, like certain European states, they’re in the political system, there’s great social strife and whole districts and towns are essentially segregated. All of this is the well know to be the global colonial strategy for rebuilding the calliphate of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood. Egypt is said to be something like 70%, 20% secular, 10% Christian. Even if 50% are just poverty-stricken and looking for a job, not to impose their religious beliefs, it’s too often that 20% or even less who end up in control because they use tactics of fear and control and ultimately convince people it was for their own good and the good of the religion.

      There just is no morally equating the fundamental values of Islam with British Common Law or Judeo-Christianity. Whether Muslims pursue the goals of their beliefs violently or non-violently, the core of them cannot be classified as anything other than radical. In the Quran’s current form, their beliefs and ours are as practically diametrically opposite sides of the coin as Tyranny and Liberty.

      I don’t know how you have an Islamic reformation either, without erasing much of the pretext and context of the faith; it’s so engrained in their History. Maybe that’s why we see no such movement, nor even much of a condemnation of the violent arm of jihad by the “moderates.”

      But now that I’ve railed against your point, I actually am going to agree with the premise. The Arabs hate the Persians, and the feeling is quite mutual. The other fact is that, as demonstrated in Iran and Tunisia, there is genuine grassroots energy out there for whatever reason – globalism, Iraq, organized incitement, or otherwise – that some have argued if given the proper support could be miraculously successful, based chiefly and majorly on the fact that popular concern is for basic human rights and economic opportunities, not religious fundamentalism. That was especially our belief in Iran.

      The Egyptians are making it abundantly clear that they want us to believe those are their goals, too. It’s a long shot, but if the US could manage to harbor a relationship between this element of the protestors and the military, while a transitional government is established, then that’s our best shot of seeing a pro-west outcome.

      It’s well-known the military hates the Islamists. The MB is who in all likeliness is trying to destroy the artifacts of their heritage and culture. If the military can be free to crackdown on the criminals and hard-liners without the Egyptian’s falling for the line that their new government is going to be another American puppet-stage, then there’s hope.

      But that’s a lot of known knowns to overcome without even thinking about what we don’t know about the situation. It’s more than probable that we don’t even have a president with the country’s interest truly at mind here, to top it all off.

      Thanks for reading this behemoth if you did.

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      “The Egyptians are making it abundantly clear that they want us to believe those are their goals, too. It’s a long shot, but if the US could manage to harbor a relationship between this element of the protestors and the military, while a transitional government is established, then that’s our best shot of seeing a pro-west outcome.”

      Not only is it a long-shot but with Hitlery, Obama, Biden and whoever else at the helm….you can kiss that whole idea g’bye.

      They have successfully screwed up everything they have ever touched from the oil leak to Tucson and everything in-between. They will screw this up monumentally!

    • River0 says:

      Point well taken, tranquil. I certainly don’t discount the danger of Islamists – having had personal experience with it in Europe – and I see it as a pure threat to the Western Tradition and everything we hold dear. Somehow we have to figure out a way to coexist, though. There are….what… 1.3 BILLION Muslims in the world? That’s the figure I last heard. We can survive only by being spiritually and physically strong, vigilant, and smart. We have to learn to play them off against each other the way they do with us. I don’t know how or when that’s going to happen. Perhaps we’ll have to suffer another, larger, 9/11.

      So true, Rusty, the Obama Regime doesn’t inspire confidence at any level with any thing.

    • tranquil.night says:

      We can survive only by being spiritually and physically strong, vigilant, and smart.”

      And continuing to fund and support our military, as well (and most critically) as defeating the Democrats and their pillars of deceit definitively in 2012. Patriotism and economic freedom have to become, as Reagan said, institutionalized again.

      Once our spirit is fully revived, our enemies will come to coexist with us, as it was before and hopefully more.

      But it is ironic to me that I’m seeing so many writing how this event has come to validate so much of the Bush-Hitler NeoCon stratagem laid out in Iraqi Freedom, in that the whole dynamic of the protests and our involvement might’ve been completely different had our efforts not been impugned since 2005.

      Thank you for your posts Rusty and River, I agree with your sentiments entirely.

    • hushpuppy says:

      @river – you’re still not ‘getting it’:

      1) minor fault line that was created not because sharia is or is not popular… it is solely because Mohammed died without producing a son! Instead, the so-called ‘truths’ Mohammed dreamed up were given to his daughter to teach. So the controversy is actully a bloody debate as to whether or not islam as taught by a female is valid!

      So- you’re the one that’s mistaken in that point.

      2) I’ve not fallen into any such ‘trap’. As a Christian and one who has studied the Holy Bible for over 32 years now you don’t see violence and wars committed against other nations by Israel. Israel went to war against invading nations bent in destroying the Israelites!

      3) tranquil night published what I was thinking of saying… but I’ll add my own 2 cents: I have not taken excerpts out of context, you are the one who is doing that – and you’re doing that like typical secular liberals do and that is by not acknowledging there is a God, lump all religions together and announcing that one religion is just as good/valid as any other religion.

      Go and study the books of Kings and Chronicles. Find out which nations (guess what? They’re arab nations!) are attacking Israel. God gave the victory to Israel time and again to show the other nations that Israel was special to Him.

      4) Regarding slavery: the Bible does not use the term slavery in the same context as blacks enslaved by blacks (as it is still practiced in many countries in Africa), or the short history of blacks enslaved by whites, which by the way, when slavery was abolished, all the countries including the United States flourished!

      I’ll take the opportunity to remind you that it was those awful right wing conservatives that couldn’t stomach the notion of slavery, and the liberal democrats who did not want to abolish slavery!

      There are very specific Scriptures that deal with ‘slaves’ (bond servants) that God outlined for those who temporarily owned ‘slaves’ (usually to work off a debt incurred by the servant). God instructs those who have bond servants to treat them kindly and reminded Israel they were once slaves to other nations… and re-iterated the point by reminding them to treat others as they themselves would want to be treated! There are cases wherein after the debt was paid off, and the bond servant wished to stay with his former ‘owner’, there was a set of instructions the former owner and his now equal servant were to adhere to.
      You’ll find the instructions in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

      Fast forward to the New Testament to the books of Peter: again there were two categories: servants/slaves owned by gentiles such as Greeks and Romans, and servants in the house holder’s care. Because the Greeks and Romans (especially the barbarian Romans) were cruel, there are instructions both to the slave/servants as well as to those whose masters were cruel. Study the books of Peter.

      As for homosexuality – it’s condemned in both Old and New Testaments. Since God is our Creator, He has the perfect right to delineate sex between a married heterosexual situation. Homosexuality and lesbianism is condemned because it’s unnatural.

      Witches were to be put to death, period. Scripture says witchcraft and divination do not come from God and is one of many forms of satanism:

      Deu 18:10-12: There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.

      Exo 22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

      It didn’t say torture and dunk or burn them, it just says to put them to death.

      Christians don’t blow themselves up – and kill innocent people whilst doing that. Muslims do. Christians are told to love their enemies, to bless those who curse them, and spitefully use them, to forgive them and to feed them when they’re hungry. Muslims are taught to kill Christians, Jews and other unbelievers.

      River – I have undertaken a 11 year side-by-side comparison of islam vs the one true religion that God taught all His children to practice. God is not divided and is the same yesterday, today and forever – that He doesn’t change, that He is incapable of lying like humans do.

      Muslims are taught to kill, rape and behead all unbelievers with special emphasis on Christians and Jews. You are in over your head in this discussion.


      (Also by Robert Spencer): “Religion of Peace?”

      “If you are sick of attacks on the West, tired of Judeo-Christian-bashing, and unwilling to succumb to jihad-friendly propaganda, buy this book and spread the word. Robert Spencer’s latest salvo–careful, thorough, and meticulously researched as always–offers a crash course comparison of the history and teachings of Christianity and Islam. Conclusion: ‘No, Virginia, not all religions are equal.’ Armed with facts and fearlessness, Spencer stands up for Western civilization. How about you?” — Michelle Malkin.

      “Brilliantly written and argued, Religion of Peace? is the perfect book to give liberals who fervently believe that Christianity is as dangerous — if not more dangerous — than Islam. Robert Spencer skewers the liberals’ paranoid and suicidal hatred of Christianity while reminding us how they ignore the real threat: Islamic jihadists with bombs. This splendid book demonstrates that what Islamic terrorists hate about the West is not its MTV, not the easy availability of pornography and abortion, but its Christian tradition. This goes a long way toward explaining why liberals never wanted to fight this war in the first place. Spencer’s book is well written, heavily researched, and a clarion call to America to wake up and fight back.” — Ann Coulter

      @tranquil – would you have a bookmark for the information you referred to?

  4. proreason says:

    Radical Islam and the marxists are blood brothers, at least for the moment.

    The Muslim kooks are splendid allies for marxism. Completely free of charge, they cause chaos in the west that would occupy the time of millions of marxists. It’s a great deal for little lenin. That’s why he is so breathlessy undermining Mubarak who, no saint, is still one of the west’s primary allies in the Middle East.

    The bad news for the kooks though is that once little lenin and his fellow western totalitarians get their sweaty hands firmly and irrevocably on US nukes, the kooks’ day in the sun will be over in a second. Unlike the Alan Aldas of the west, the marxists won’t have the slightest compunction against wiping Mecca off the face of the earth. The kooks will see that in a flash, and become compliant subjects in a heartbeat. They have already waited 1200 years to rule the world. Another couple hundred mean nothing to them.

  5. hushpuppy says:

    A couple of URLs with tons of info on muslims. Not ‘Islamists’, not ‘radicalized’ just plain muslims:


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