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NASA Ordered To Probe Toyota Problems

From Louisville’s Business First:

Feds enlist NASA in Toyota probe

Tuesday, March 30, 2010

U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said Tuesday that NASA engineers have joined investigators from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to examine the “sudden acceleration” problems reported in some Toyota models.

The National Academy of Sciences will conduct a separate investigation of acceleration and electronic vehicle controls across the entire automotive industry, the department said in a news release.

“We are determined to get to the bottom of unintended acceleration,” LaHood said in a news release. “For the safety of the American driving public, we must do everything possible to understand what is happening.”

Toyota (NYSE: TM) has recalled around 8 million vehicles for braking and acceleration problems over the past several months. The automaker, which bases its Toyota Motor Engineering and Manufacturing North America headquarters in Erlanger, Ky., has said that the problem is due to accelerators becoming caught under floor mats.

The department said nine NASA engineers are working on the probe and others may join if needed. The investigation is expected to be completed by late summer.

Toyota also operates manufacturing plants in Georgetown, Ky., and Princeton and Lafayette, Ind.

Sure, this makes much more sense than having NASA engineers waste their time and the taxpayer’s dollars exploring space or going to the Moon.

This article was posted by Steve on Tuesday, March 30th, 2010. Comments are currently closed.

22 Responses to “NASA Ordered To Probe Toyota Problems”

  1. Reality Bytes says:

    Of course, who else to litigate a witch hunt. They fly on brooms don’t they?

  2. Reality Bytes says:



  3. proreason says:

    Maybe they should look at data that shows the ages of the “victims” of the sudden acceleration.

    Toyota obviously is targetting senior citizens with it’s scheme to undermine America by killing Toyota drivers.

    The average age of the “victims” is 61. Yet, people above 61 drive many times fewer miles than all others. Isn’t it sly how they were able to teach gas pedals how to tell the age of the driver? And it’s even more insidious because they must have known that guys like me would look at that and say….looks like it is caused by people who shouldn’t be driving anyway. Oh that Japanese inscrutability. Jujutsu!!

    Apparently they couldn’t figure out to tell the gas pedal how single out African Americans.

  4. BobonStatenIsland says:

    Something tells me if NASA wants to continue to get the funding they want they had better find something terribly wrong with Toyota. Not surprised. NASA fanned the fires of Global Warming. They practically invented the “Theory” of Human caused Climate Change (I heard that that had actually started as a joke….seriously). Time to crush any competition of Gov’t Motors (GM).

  5. Steve-RVO says:

    Wait a second here. There is a difference between the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

    My guess is the unknown author at Business First messed up the article and the editor missed the errors. He or she just figured it was NASA.

    • confucius says:

      It’s NASA.

      NASA’s Engineering and Safety Center was asked to help the U.S. Department of Transportation because of their expertise in electronics and more specifically, their vulnerability to external forces.

    • proreason says:

      Sorry Confucius, NASA was told to get involved to take Toyota down.

      It’s the butt boy for Obamy and the UAW.

      Whatever they end up saying….it will absolutely be against Toyota, even though there have been numerous examples of false claims of sudden acceleration for decades.

      In Toyota’s case, the bulk of the claims come from people over 60. Apparently, they designed a sudden acceleration system in order to wipe out senior citizens.

    • confucius says:

      Yea, I guess when the administration “asks” for something, it’s synonymous with “ordering.”

      After all, Obama is a Democrat.

    • JohnMG says:

      …..”In Toyota’s case, the bulk of the claims come from people over 60. Apparently, they designed a sudden acceleration system in order to wipe out senior citizens…..”

      Which is really confusing to me, pro. If that’s the case, Obama and his thugocracy should be partnering with Toyota. It’s a perfect adjunct to the ‘health care’ we’re all gonna face soon enough.

      Which would you rather have? Death by some “death panel” bureaucrat denying you necessary treatment? Or death by Toyota?

      At least with the car you stand a chance of running over and taking out one of the bastards responsible for the health care debacle in the first place.

  6. David says:

    Actually this wouldn’t be such a bad idea if they got the right engineers and Toyota was willing to do it voluntarily. The Intelligent Systems division at NASA Ames is one of the best places to look at failure detection and mitigation control issues (they have been leading* this research field for years). However, these are not the engineers being used. Instead they have some safety engineers who will be focused on whether Toyota engineers followed all correct failure analysis methodologies. Their job will not be to find what went wrong but rather who was responsible for not checking it out.

    *I am biased in that I have worked at and with these guys and gals at Ames for several years.

    • proreason says:

      Excuse me David, but NASA is totally politicized…..long before the boy king.

      That’s not a criticism of the engineers, it’s a criticism of the agency.

      When management can ignore a problem as blatant as the o-ring situation with the space shuttle, then they will do exactly what the Obamistration wants them to do….which is to ruin Toyota.

      The theory that good fault detection engineers can help is flawed in two respects:

      1. We have seen the sudden acceleration problem before, and it had the exact same characteristics for Audi as it has for Toyota. In other words, it is a witch hunt. In Audi’s case it was entirely fueled by slip-and-fall lawyers. This time it has a political component as well.

      2. Toyota’s engineers are much more familiar with the situtation, and Toyota has every incentive to locate the problem if one does exist. It’s not as if they have had a couple of guys look at it. They have had dozens, probably hundreds of specialists look at it. This is not a situation where a fresh pair of eyes is likely to help. Again, Toyota is STRONGLY INCENTED to find a problem. They have no reason to look away.

  7. GetBackJack says:

    Well, this makes sense, actually.

    I know, I know.

    But seriously … if the Agency that staged the moon landings and convinced the world those astronauts actually were on the moon when they were on a sound stage in Huntsville, AL …. isn’t this exactly whom you would deploy to stage fake ‘research’, fake ‘findings’, fake ‘expert testimony’ and well, fake everything else in order to crush Toyota and reward GM? Isn’t that the Chicago Way?

    I mean … it’s brilliant!

  8. Rusty Shackleford says:

    In 200 years, when the truth comes out, it will become obvious to the average secondary school student that the government has a vested interest in trying to defeat Toyota. I’m also saying, “Watch out, Ford, you’re next”,because one thing these communists do is work on eliminating the competition. They’re not and never have been about fair play.

    They want what they want, when they want it and will ruin just about everything to make it that way. They care not about safety, logic, fairness. Their only goal is to get their way and they love the crappy little ways they have of getting it….much like any adolescent.

    • Steve says:

      I wonder if we will even have historians 200 years from now.

      At least in the sense we imagine them now. That is, objective searchers for the truth.

      (And I do mean imagine.)

    • GetBackJack says:


      Missed the plate

      Sorry, Ump.

  9. canary says:

    heard this NASA report on radio Mon, found this excerpts from older link below.
    Dailymail.co.uk. :Are we alone? Alien life may be thriving on Saturn’s frozen moon—-By David Derbyshire Jun 25 2009

    Alien life could have evolved on one of Saturn’s moons, scientists say.

    They have found evidence that seas may lie beneath the frozen surface of Enceladus – the planet’s sixth biggest moon.

    It follows the discovery of a giant plume of salt water and ice spurting hundreds of miles into space from the moon’s surface.

    Nasa’s Cassini spacecraft discovered the ‘ice geyser’ near the south pole of Enceladus, one of Saturn’s 60 moons, in 2005.
    Saturn’s moon Enceladus…..


  10. MinnesotaRush says:

    Was Bawney Fwank in on this “probe” decision?

  11. Liberals Make Great Speedbumps says:

    Maybe we need help from NASA to resolve the GM steering problems also.

  12. Mithrandir says:

    This is all part of the show, to keep Toyota away from competing with Obama’s GM product. Give them bad press, undercut their credibility, drag out supposed victims to give horror stories, get people to file lawsuits. . .

    Just like the FBI raid of the ‘militia’ groups, and Obama’s surprise trip to Afghanistan…ALL FOR THE SHOW. Stop focusing on health care, look over here, quick you will miss it! I’m serious, look over here right now and stop focusing on the unconstitutional law we just passed!

    Look! See? The right wing is crazy and hateful! Good thing we captured these people before they tried to destroy health care! Whew, that was a close one!


  13. NoNeoCommies says:

    So, automotive engineering IS rocket science after all!
    Maybe we can get NASA to look at California’s Smart Meters too.
    People are complaining that the meters are double billing them and magazine articles claim they can be hacked.

  14. AcornsRNutz says:

    So who is running the probe into the recall of the “green frendly” non-cfc insulation they put on the fuel tanks for the shuttle? You know, the stuff that caused one of them to explode in a great fiery streak across texas as it peeled off during liftoff? Oh wait, nobody. That must be because there has been no recall and it continues to do the same thing every time they launch it. Or the recall of the disgustingly flawed climate change data? Wait, none of those either. Yep, it makes perfect sense that NASA would go after this evil corporation that doesn’t employ UAW workers.

    EDIT: I hate to withdraw my witty remarks, but it appears that steve-RVO is right. It kind of looks like the article confused the National Academy of Sciences with NASA. Doesn’t change that this Toyota thing is a bunch of BS.

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