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		<title>By: LibsStillLying</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158270</link>
		<dc:creator>LibsStillLying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Death panel&#039; is not in the bill... it already exists

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/death_panel_is_not_in_the_bill.html

The LIARS are still lying, and will continue to lie.  They put wool over our eyes.  Nobody read the Stimulus bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Death panel&#8217; is not in the bill&#8230; it already exists</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/death_panel_is_not_in_the_bill.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com....._bill.html</a></p>
<p>The LIARS are still lying, and will continue to lie.  They put wool over our eyes.  Nobody read the Stimulus bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Right of the People</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158138</link>
		<dc:creator>Right of the People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even falling down stupid, just the epitome of arrogance.  They think it&#039;s we the people that are too friggin&#039; stupid and have to be led around by our noses and that THEY know what is best for us.

We need to dump EVERY incumbent come next November.  A complete turn over in the House would be a quite the wake-up call to these ass clowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even falling down stupid, just the epitome of arrogance.  They think it&#8217;s we the people that are too friggin&#8217; stupid and have to be led around by our noses and that THEY know what is best for us.</p>
<p>We need to dump EVERY incumbent come next November.  A complete turn over in the House would be a quite the wake-up call to these ass clowns.</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158120</link>
		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;Strong&gt;&quot;We dropped end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly.&quot; &lt;/Strong&gt;

Oh good, If only the UK would understand this...then we could have my father-in-law back. Right...?

&lt;Strong&gt;&quot;&quot;The bill passed by the House committees is so poorly cobbled together that it will have all kinds of unintended consequences, including making taxpayers fund health care subsidies for illegal immigrants,&quot; Grassley said.&quot;&lt;/Strong&gt;

And that my friends is why everyone is screaming so loudly!  There is so much in this bill that would have destroyed America as we know it. And that IS what would have happened if we had &quot;quickly&quot; passed this bill before August?  You know it is!

I just keep remembering Obalmy saying &quot;we have to pass this health care reform now...the stars are aligned&quot;  Yeah...because you didn&#039;t want people to have a chance to read the thing and do just what we did...PUSH BACK HARD.  By &quot;stars are aligned&quot; he meant &quot;people are still ignorant of the facts&quot;

I think he got all the funding bills through so easily because the American people were at first stunned....too stunned to believe he was actually doing this stuff.  Then he laid the final straw on the camel&#039;s back with this health care reform bill.  Well the people are awaken now..and off their couches and are fighting back.  I wonder if he ever heard the old saw of having &quot; a tiger by the tail&quot;....He better read up on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;We dropped end-of-life provisions from consideration entirely because of the way they could be misinterpreted and implemented incorrectly.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>Oh good, If only the UK would understand this&#8230;then we could have my father-in-law back. Right&#8230;?</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;&#8221;The bill passed by the House committees is so poorly cobbled together that it will have all kinds of unintended consequences, including making taxpayers fund health care subsidies for illegal immigrants,&#8221; Grassley said.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And that my friends is why everyone is screaming so loudly!  There is so much in this bill that would have destroyed America as we know it. And that IS what would have happened if we had &#8220;quickly&#8221; passed this bill before August?  You know it is!</p>
<p>I just keep remembering Obalmy saying &#8220;we have to pass this health care reform now&#8230;the stars are aligned&#8221;  Yeah&#8230;because you didn&#8217;t want people to have a chance to read the thing and do just what we did&#8230;PUSH BACK HARD.  By &#8220;stars are aligned&#8221; he meant &#8220;people are still ignorant of the facts&#8221;</p>
<p>I think he got all the funding bills through so easily because the American people were at first stunned&#8230;.too stunned to believe he was actually doing this stuff.  Then he laid the final straw on the camel&#8217;s back with this health care reform bill.  Well the people are awaken now..and off their couches and are fighting back.  I wonder if he ever heard the old saw of having &#8221; a tiger by the tail&#8221;&#8230;.He better read up on that.</p>
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		<title>By: whitelie</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158118</link>
		<dc:creator>whitelie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the senior community is never targeted by scammers. I have never heard of Seniors being taken by phony contractors or anything of that nature. I can see myself in a few years being told to sign this or that which I may do depending on the day of the week. Get real, some Seniors are trusting and gullible and this consultation would be a perfect means to reduce costs. In addition, how many bureaucrats have you run into that showed compassion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the senior community is never targeted by scammers. I have never heard of Seniors being taken by phony contractors or anything of that nature. I can see myself in a few years being told to sign this or that which I may do depending on the day of the week. Get real, some Seniors are trusting and gullible and this consultation would be a perfect means to reduce costs. In addition, how many bureaucrats have you run into that showed compassion?</p>
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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158116</link>
		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do Congresspersons go onto Medicare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do Congresspersons go onto Medicare?</p>
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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158110</link>
		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;living wills, making a close relative or a trusted friend your health care proxy, learning about hospice as an option for the terminally ill, and information about pain medications for people suffering chronic discomfort&quot;

My wife and I &quot;handled&quot; our mothers&#039; affairs at the end.  I am not being crass or flippant but there isn&#039;t much to the job if you love your parents and respect their wishes.  Just do the right thing, you&#039;ll know what the right thing is.  Just answer this question honestly, &quot;What should my children do to me when I am in my parent&#039;s condition?&quot;

No doctor ever charged for giving advice or wasn&#039;t available for consultation to help us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;living wills, making a close relative or a trusted friend your health care proxy, learning about hospice as an option for the terminally ill, and information about pain medications for people suffering chronic discomfort&#8221;</p>
<p>My wife and I &#8220;handled&#8221; our mothers&#8217; affairs at the end.  I am not being crass or flippant but there isn&#8217;t much to the job if you love your parents and respect their wishes.  Just do the right thing, you&#8217;ll know what the right thing is.  Just answer this question honestly, &#8220;What should my children do to me when I am in my parent&#8217;s condition?&#8221;</p>
<p>No doctor ever charged for giving advice or wasn&#8217;t available for consultation to help us.</p>
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		<title>By: TwilightZoned</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158088</link>
		<dc:creator>TwilightZoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Way, way, way past time to clean and bleach the DC gene pool.&quot;

Oh, hurry 2010, HURRY!!!  I&#039;m going to feel like a kid in the candy store when it comes to choosing people who are not incumbents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Way, way, way past time to clean and bleach the DC gene pool.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, hurry 2010, HURRY!!!  I&#8217;m going to feel like a kid in the candy store when it comes to choosing people who are not incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158081</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MinnesotaRush</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158066</link>
		<dc:creator>MinnesotaRush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to be always mindful that this garbage is being created by a gaggle of deception artists and liars (aka - Lawyers). Ask for the sun and moon - settle for pieces.

I don&#039;t give a ruddy crap what provision they put in or out. I don&#039;t want the government anywhere near my health care .. period! And .. they have no real Constitutional authority to be there anyway!

This whole charade has nothing to do with health care; and everything to do with power and control!

If it truly was about health care, they&#039;d let us all have access to their very same &quot;cadillac of coverage&quot; plan(s) and allow the costs to be a tax deduction. But it ain&#039;t about that! It&#039;s about more power and control!

Way, way, way past time to clean and bleach the DC gene pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to be always mindful that this garbage is being created by a gaggle of deception artists and liars (aka &#8211; Lawyers). Ask for the sun and moon &#8211; settle for pieces.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t give a ruddy crap what provision they put in or out. I don&#8217;t want the government anywhere near my health care .. period! And .. they have no real Constitutional authority to be there anyway!</p>
<p>This whole charade has nothing to do with health care; and everything to do with power and control!</p>
<p>If it truly was about health care, they&#8217;d let us all have access to their very same &#8220;cadillac of coverage&#8221; plan(s) and allow the costs to be a tax deduction. But it ain&#8217;t about that! It&#8217;s about more power and control!</p>
<p>Way, way, way past time to clean and bleach the DC gene pool.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158053</link>
		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Pete Singer&#039;s piece &quot;Why We Must Ration Health Care&quot; in the NYT (posted here by SG too), British NHS already has a &quot;death panel&quot; of sorts that goes by the creepy, Orwellian acronym of N.I.C.E. They hand down blanket deliberations on matters of treatment that would be far better left to individuals and doctors. Of course Pete Singer thinks that individual Americans ought to likewise be relieved of the  heavy burden of autonomy when it comes to decisions that affect their own bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Pete Singer&#8217;s piece &#8220;Why We Must Ration Health Care&#8221; in the NYT (posted here by SG too), British NHS already has a &#8220;death panel&#8221; of sorts that goes by the creepy, Orwellian acronym of N.I.C.E. They hand down blanket deliberations on matters of treatment that would be far better left to individuals and doctors. Of course Pete Singer thinks that individual Americans ought to likewise be relieved of the  heavy burden of autonomy when it comes to decisions that affect their own bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158051</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Politico

Palin doubles down on &#039;death panels&#039;

  Andy Barr Andy Barr   – Thu Aug 13, 8:05 am ET

Former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin defended her claim that the Democratic health care proposal would create “death panels” in a statement Wednesday night slamming President Barack Obama.

“Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system, these ‘unproductive’ members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care,” Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page.

“The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled ‘Advance Care Planning Consultation.’ With all due respect, it’s misleading for the president to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients,” she continued.

“Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often ‘if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual ... or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility... or a hospice program.’&quot;

The White House and Democratic lawmakers have blasted Palin in recent days for suggesting that her own son, Trig, would have had to face a bureaucratic panel to get access to health care under the provision in the House health care proposal because he was born with Down syndrome

Rest of Article:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090813/pl_politico/26078
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Go, Sara!

Never give up!  Never surrender!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Politico</p>
<p>Palin doubles down on &#8216;death panels&#8217;</p>
<p>  Andy Barr Andy Barr   – Thu Aug 13, 8:05 am ET</p>
<p>Former Alaska GOP Gov. Sarah Palin defended her claim that the Democratic health care proposal would create “death panels” in a statement Wednesday night slamming President Barack Obama.</p>
<p>“Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system, these ‘unproductive’ members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care,” Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page.</p>
<p>“The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled ‘Advance Care Planning Consultation.’ With all due respect, it’s misleading for the president to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients,” she continued.</p>
<p>“Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often ‘if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual &#8230; or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility&#8230; or a hospice program.’&#8221;</p>
<p>The White House and Democratic lawmakers have blasted Palin in recent days for suggesting that her own son, Trig, would have had to face a bureaucratic panel to get access to health care under the provision in the House health care proposal because he was born with Down syndrome</p>
<p>Rest of Article:  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090813/pl_politico/26078" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/politi.....tico/26078</a><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Go, Sara!</p>
<p>Never give up!  Never surrender!</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158050</link>
		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s up with that? Did anyone else get an email from David Axelrod?

Wonder if I got &quot;reported&quot; in my discussions on facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up with that? Did anyone else get an email from David Axelrod?</p>
<p>Wonder if I got &#8220;reported&#8221; in my discussions on facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel1961</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158048</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel1961</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I feel better now...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I feel better now&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158046</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the AP


White House uses e-mail to counter health critics

  By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer 

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama&#039;s push to revamp health care got a boost Thursday as a new coalition of drug makers, unions, hospitals and others launched a $12 million pro-overhaul ad campaign. Meanwhile, the administration sought to regain control of the health care debate by asking supporters to forward a chain e-mail to counter criticism that&#039;s circulating on the Internet.


The e-mail by White House senior adviser David Axelrod offers reasons to support Obama&#039;s agenda — and myths to debunk.

Axelrod wrote that opponents are relying on tactics including &quot;viral e-mails that fly unchecked and under the radar, spreading all sorts of lies.&quot;

&quot;So let&#039;s start a chain e-mail of our own,&quot; he said, inviting supporters to forward a message countering claims that Obama&#039;s plans would lead to rationing, encourage euthanasia or deplete veterans&#039; health care.

Rest of story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_health_care;_ylc=X3oDMTI1NzZyc3Q3BFJfYWlkAwRSX2RtbgN5YWhvby5jb20EUl9maWQDYmRhMGMzMzU0NTFiYmY2YjY0Y2Q0MWRlYjBiYWRlNDYEUl9sdHADMQ--

---So, apparently, the insurance companies haven&#039;t read it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the AP</p>
<p>White House uses e-mail to counter health critics</p>
<p>  By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer </p>
<p>WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama&#8217;s push to revamp health care got a boost Thursday as a new coalition of drug makers, unions, hospitals and others launched a $12 million pro-overhaul ad campaign. Meanwhile, the administration sought to regain control of the health care debate by asking supporters to forward a chain e-mail to counter criticism that&#8217;s circulating on the Internet.</p>
<p>The e-mail by White House senior adviser David Axelrod offers reasons to support Obama&#8217;s agenda — and myths to debunk.</p>
<p>Axelrod wrote that opponents are relying on tactics including &#8220;viral e-mails that fly unchecked and under the radar, spreading all sorts of lies.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So let&#8217;s start a chain e-mail of our own,&#8221; he said, inviting supporters to forward a message countering claims that Obama&#8217;s plans would lead to rationing, encourage euthanasia or deplete veterans&#8217; health care.</p>
<p>Rest of story:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_health_care;_ylc=X3oDMTI1NzZyc3Q3BFJfYWlkAwRSX2RtbgN5YWhvby5jb20EUl9maWQDYmRhMGMzMzU0NTFiYmY2YjY0Y2Q0MWRlYjBiYWRlNDYEUl9sdHADMQ--" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....DMQ&#8211;</a></p>
<p>&#8212;So, apparently, the insurance companies haven&#8217;t read it either.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....&quot;or else the authors were falling down drunk when they wrote it.....&quot;

They weren&#039;t &quot;falling down drunk&quot;, but they are &quot;falling down stupid&quot; if they thought this type of crap would go unnoticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..&#8221;or else the authors were falling down drunk when they wrote it&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>They weren&#8217;t &#8220;falling down drunk&#8221;, but they are &#8220;falling down stupid&#8221; if they thought this type of crap would go unnoticed.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/never-existing-death-panel-gets-dropped#comment-158039</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much of the bill is so totally idiotic.....you have to believe a lot of the provisions were thrown in just to allow them to &quot;compromise&quot; later,

or else the authors were falling down drunk when they wrote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much of the bill is so totally idiotic&#8230;..you have to believe a lot of the provisions were thrown in just to allow them to &#8220;compromise&#8221; later,</p>
<p>or else the authors were falling down drunk when they wrote it.</p>
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