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(Not) New ‘Abuse’ Photos (Re) Surface

From South Asia’s Asian News International:

New Iraq ‘prisoner abuse’ photographs surface in Australia

May 15th, 2009

Washington, May 15 (ANI): Graphic photographs of alleged prisoner abuse in Iraq have surfaced in spite of the Obama administration trying its level best to halt its release.

The images emerged from Australia yesterday where they were originally obtained by the channel SBS in 2006 in the wake of the Abu Ghraib scandal.

The shocking images of inmates in Iraq and Afghanistan were published just a day after Obama announced plans for a legal battle stop them ever being seen.

According to The Telegraph, one picture showed a prisoner hung up upside down while another showed a naked man smeared in excrement standing in a corridor with a guard standing menacingly in front of him. Another prisoner is handcuffed to the window frame of his cell with underpants pulled over his head.

Others show military guards threatening to sexually assault a detainee with a broomstick and hooded prisoners on transport planes with Playboy magazines opened to pictures of nude women on their laps.

The president’s change of heart brought bitter criticism from the left wingers and the American Civil Liberties Union, which had brought a freedom of information case against the US government applying to see the pictures.

“It is true that these photos would be disturbing. The day we are no longer disturbed by such repugnant acts would be a sad one,” said Anthony Romero, executive director

So it turns out that these photographs are not even the ones in question.

They are leftovers from what the SBC TV station had back in 2006 — from Abu Ghraib. They are not from Guantanamo.

And even so, they are still not ‘torture’ by any known definition of the word.

Men hanging upside down? Excrement-throwing prisoners getting a taste of their own medicine? Playboy magazines? Panties on heads again?

How outrageous.

Civilian Nick Berg’s decapitated body on display in Baghdad.

We hope they don’t offend the delicate sensibilities of the ‘Arab Street.’

This article was posted by Steve on Friday, May 15th, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

31 Responses to “(Not) New ‘Abuse’ Photos (Re) Surface”

  1. curvyred says:

    At the end of the day their heads were still firmly attached – cannot say the same for people who were kidnapped by “the misunderstood man-made disasters” (or however they are referring to the peaceful people).

  2. proreason says:

    It’s good to know the Obamy administration has nothing, nothing to do with the realease of these photographs, which of course, could have been taken anywhere, anytime.

    Because if there is one thing we know for sure, the TMCC’s number one priority is protecting us from terrorists.

  3. catie says:

    Good God, looking at that bottom picture-how can these people even make a comparison? What the heck is wrong these folks? I firmly believe the ACLU and their fellow travelers truly despise the US military, those who work in the CIA & FBI, etc. I truly hope that they wind up in hell because they will have blood on their hands.

    • wardmama4 says:

      You are so right – when this story (surfaced again) I said to be fair, balanced and actually show some ‘journalistic’ integrity – how about showing the Blackwater contractors bodies hanging (burned beyond recognition) on the bridge in Fallujah. Or the pictures of the bodies of PFC Kristian Menchaca and PFC Thomas Lowell Tucker – whose tortured and butchered bodies were also booby-trapped. Not to mention the vast difference between picture #1 (oh, the horror) and #2 above (may he rest in peace).
      All of these show exactly who is doing the ‘torture’ 18-25 year olds whose only concept of life and anguish is the last frat party they attended.

      We who support our Military only need to laugh at those fiberals who cry about torture to us – What a load of crappola. And then offer to show (or do) them real torture. I can provide a picture that will give them nightmares for months to come.

    • catie says:

      Wardmama, when Tucker and Menchaca were found my husband had the honor to guard their bodies until the teams could come in and take care of the booby traps that had been set up around their bodies. He told me some of what happened (we never heard anything about this in the news, just that they were found) to them and prayed that their suffering was short although he doubted it and prayed that they were at peace. It’s disgusting.

    • Colonel1961 says:

      Catie: my very best to your husband and my thanks for his service to our Country. There is no comparison for any of this – this is a debate between people who love their Country and those who think we’re just another random collection of multicultural ‘human beings’. Simplistic, but true…

  4. jobeth says:

    I wonder…If these photos are so offensive to to the delicate sensibilities of the Libs, I find it interesting that not a one of the bleeding hearts uttered not a peep when our guys were drug thought the streets,Hung in the streets after being beheaded, and had guns held to their heads just before having some monster hack at their necks.

    And I also didn’t hear a word from them when Saddam’s little boys yanked a bride away from her husband on their honeymoon, raped her and then thew her over a balcony…

    Of course all that is just an internal issue or in the case of the former…something that “freedom fighters” had to do to protect themselves…and Saddam and his little boys.

    As to feces…I’ll wager if you heard the rest of the story…this was AFTER the prisoners thew feces at the guards….As to the panties on the head….the rest of the story, just could be that these prisoners had a penchant for spitting. We had to cover patients in the hospitals when they would spit.

    And let’s just say for the sake of argument, it was all done for the humiliation effect…As.Curvyred said…they still have their heads. Someday they will go home.

    Not so for our people who were beheaded on camera…for effect, How much worse is that for the families of our men? Will they come home? Many times not even in death!

    War is hell, someone once said. It’s not a pretty thing. It’s not a kindergarten playground out there. Our foes are not nice people! They don’t care a flip about us.

    And it seems, neither do the libs. In war you do what works to save your own people.

    Yes we are above torture…but nothing I’ve seen is torture! Uncomfortable? Yes. Maiming? NO. Life changing…well maybe…IF they change their ways…but probably not.

    One last thing…I wonder how many these prisoners or Libs consider “Honor Killing” and total control of muslim women torture?! (Retorical Question)

    • proreason says:


      You are thinking about this from the logical perspective of someone who would like to see our country protected from maniacs.

      But the left doesn’t think that way. They see our country as THE PROBLEM. From that perspective, anything that undermines the country is ok.

      But I also think there is an even deeper theme going on with all of this mania against torture, which is one aspect of the whole anti-war “movement”.

      The deeper theme is that the torture/anti-war mania is just one facet of the overall plan, which is to replace our government with total central control, run by the oligarchical elite. Hence, the cabal attacks every instutution that enables freedom and allows people to resist government control, such as the family, churches and small businesses. Resistance against outside agression is a UNIFYING force that brings people together in a way that strengthens the EXISTING institutions. Call it “patriotism”. So, from the cabal’s perspective, patriotism must also be undermined, because it threatens the cabals ability to replace the government with themselves in total control.

      Now, there are certainly people who genuinely oppose war and torture. They are a tiny tiny minority. But they are the useful idiots that are manipulated, in this instance, to serve the puppet-masters’ purposes. Likewise, queers are manipulated to destroy families, academics are manipulated to destroy churches, and the ups-and-downs of the free market are manipulated to destroy capitalism.

      This is the over-arching process that we are in the middle of. I don’t know when it really started, but suspect the Communists of the 40’s and 50’s. Obama is the creature they created as the front-piece. The msm and the schools are the propaganda arms to disguise true purpose of the plan. The end game is to return the world to they days when an aristocratic elite had total control, and the peasantry had no chance to rise up against it.

    • jobeth says:


      I read your post with much interest and thought.

      I thought I was the only one who thought that there was a “behind the scenes” grand puppet master. I rarely say it anymore because when I do I get looks like I am a conspiracy nut.

      People generally don’t normally think beyond themselves and their own little world and that can be frustrating when you do try to talk about this to these folks. These are the easily manipulated who only need to plug in their own “wants” into the “Hope and Change” to believe in “The One”…or as you rightfully said…the front piece. One reason why he needs his teleprompter. He says what he is told to say. He is the slick face of the “movement” not the originator. Hope and Change has as many meanings as there are people.

      But if one just steps back, as you have done, and take a good look at the WHOLE picture it becomes plain to see there must be a “grand scheme” to the whole worldwide affair.

      There can’t be that many coincidences and it ALL seems to be moving in the same direction.

      In my own case, I view the grand conspiracy from a Christian point of view. ie Antichrist vs Christ. I can see the world players taking their stage positions for the final scene.

      Having read “The Book”, I know the ending but it doesn’t make it easier to watch. These people are evil to the core and will do anything and everything to meet their ends.

      I agree with all you said in your comment.

      I do think there are more useful idiots than a few though. In fact all I can do is shake my head when I run into them, which is constantly.

      It hurts to see such a special and blessed nation capitulate and fall to these schemes. It will be hard for our children and grandchildren and that is hard to watch for those of us who knew America as it was.

      I am not giving up and will always fight for what is right though. Until the very last there is always the hope that people will wake up. We’ve survived bad times before

    • Rusty Shackleford says:

      Pro, I’ll go ya one better and say outright that many in this country want a benevolent dictator. The sad part, of course, is that they don’t understand that there’s no such thing.

  5. sheehanjihad says:

    Literally every last one of these jerks who have been humiliated, but certainly not tortured by any stretch of the imagination can relate their experiences to this day! WHY? Because they are perfectly healthy and under the care of our moronic left and libtards, that’s why!

    I will only agree that we should stop this kind of treatment the minute Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl both tell the world to refrain from any discomfort to psychopaths disguised as “fighters”.

    Oh wait, they really cant speak for themselves like these coddled shitbirds can, now can they? Yeah, that’s right, hard to speak at all after their heads were sawed from their bodies by our delicate misunderstood freedom fighters isnt it?

    I wish there was some way the miscreant ACLU sphincters with ears who filed for the release of “torture” photos could be given the choice of having to experience personally what they say is “our torture” vs actual torture practiced with reckless abandon by the people they are selling their souls to protect. Perhaps then they would see the folly of their ignorant stupidity….but I doubt it.

  6. bobbys says:

    That guy hanging from the bed is what i look like every morn except my sheets are cheap white ones from Wally world!!!!

    • caligirl9 says:

      The first photo looks as harmless as a frat boy initiation trick. No long-term harm, no foul. Bet fraternities do far worse despite many colleges and universities having “no hazing rules.”

  7. Steve says:

    Mr. Limbaugh just mentioned this thread.

  8. MinnesotaRush says:

    The photo at the top appears that it may have been staged. When did our military holding facilities anywhere begin using pink floral blankets/quilts?

    Is that an Iranian beer in that gold foil thermos looking thing on the floor?

    I’m really wondering who and where were these photos taken? I’m smellin’ a rat. A big rat. A real big rat. Hell .. a pack of rats.

    I’d truly question the authenticity of all these photos and their origins.

  9. Confucius says:

    I don’t see the problem.

    Some of this stuff happens at strip clubs. The rest in prison and art museums.

  10. Colonel1961 says:

    Not exactly firing a bazooka, is he? (Can I say that?)

  11. proreason says:

    Imagine for a moment that you are a foreign power after WWII with your eye on the prize of world dominance.

    But there are some roadblocks. The U.S. has best the military, the best technology, and a people who love their country and have just coalesced to overcome one of the most dangerous movements of all time. And your own people are quasi-slaves, ignorant and disloyal.

    What do you do?

    Well if it were me, I would avoid a direct confrontation, and instead see what I could do to undermine the U.S. I would infiltrate key institutions like education, the unions and the media. I would start a gradual campaign to discredit the country. I would find ways to focus attention on events in the past that were not the country’s proudest moments….say slavery, wealth disparities, foreign policy, “forced” assimilation of foreigners, and seek to discredit religions and other philosophies by portraying them as recidivist in contrast to “modernity”. And I would seek to undermine pillars of community like families, churches and veterans organizations.

    If I were successful, in a few decades, I would hope to be able to convince a majority of the country that it was racist, war-loving, intolerant of other countries, too locked to inflexible “outdated” institutions. I would hope to create an anti-military sentiment, perhaps even convince the country that military power itself is the root of problems in the world.

    In my wildest dreams, I would imagine that I might eventually convince the country that the very people who say they protect it are in fact people who torture others to increase their dominance over innocents from other countries.

    Then, after decades, I would be ready to move in for the kill. And if didn’t survive for those decades, I would hope to have paved the way for others in the U.S. itself to carry on my work.

    But thank goodness that’s just a dream.

    It could never happen here.

  12. proreason says:

    “Until the very last there is always the hope that people will wake up. ”

    There have been some posts lately about negativity (not the above quote so much, but, like many, it does contain a hint of despair, which I think we all feel fron the 48×7 assault on our way of life)

    I don’t think a single person who posts here is negative. Opposing and decrying tyranny is not negative.

    The sweep of history leads to freedom, not the reverse.

    Life is full of setbacks and that will never end. This odious criminal cabal has siezed a moment, but history has not ended.

    People who want to be free have always overcome the forces that seek to enslave them and we always will.

    And it won’t take that long either. They were ascendent in 1964 and claimed it would last forever. We came back. They were ascendent in 1976 and claimed it was forever, We came back. They were ascendent in 1992 and claimed conservatism was dead. We came back. They are ascendent in 2009.

    We will come back.

    • jobeth says:

      I’m sitting here watching Beck right now and his show is in alignment with our conversation.

      You’ve heard about the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Well I’m thinking that Obalmy is reaching that point very fast.

      Let’s just hope the ostriches are beginning to raise their little heads and see what we have been watching. We are going to need all we can get to secure our freedoms.

      Beck is talking about state’s rights today. A lot of our problems can be solved if we can secure those state’s rights. We have all but let them slip completely away.

      Those of us who realize that we have will never be the ones who lay down and give up. Freedom has a price and many of our countrymen have paid the largest price. We also have to expect to pay a price for our freedoms. I for one, as with others that post here are more than willing to do what it takes.

      And as we do we WiLL come back as you say.

      Some must be smacked in the face themselves before they can “feel the pain” but as Beck said today…all of us are on the government’s list. It’s just some can see it before others.

  13. canary says:

    Minnesota they look staged to me too. While he understand anything Obama announces, he is doing the opposite.
    Looks like some light bondage, not as bad as the gay circle sex. But, in the west when youth go out of their way to make shocking snaps. Prehaps reality tv or movie in process photos. Maybe new porno thinking of new plots.
    No bondage ties, pink cusion under the legs, which are cut in the photo, so no ties. Hands are not handcuffed. Looks like a “medical bracelet”.

    No bruises, no marks, no cuts, no broken bones, no marks to show handcuffs.
    On the remote possibility this is denying the head choppers to be covered, by uncovering them to torture them. They have it better than beinig covered in stones. Many American troops training is buried to their heads, or placed in
    hot boxes, go without water, and it’s obvious the man in the photo has a nice energy drink at hand.

  14. Lisa22 says:

    Shoot, the first photo reminds me of some fraternity parties I went to at college —

  15. Moonspinner says:

    To tell you the truth I have never seen that picture of Nick Berg. I would venture to say the vast majority of the American people have not seen that picture. They need to see it. They need to see what our enemies have done and will do to us. Very sobering. As far as the prisoner picture, at least he kept his head and I am sure that guy is alive and well today, unfortunately.

    • Steve says:

      “To tell you the truth I have never seen that picture of Nick Berg. I would venture to say the vast majority of the American people have not seen that picture. They need to see it. They need to see what our enemies have done and will do to us. Very sobering.”

      And, lest we forget, the barbarians who slaughtered Mr. Berg claimed that they did it in retaliation for the ‘abuses’ at Abu Ghraib.

      But of course we know that was a lie. They decapitated prisoners countless times before and countless times since.

  16. Liberals Demise says:

    The 1st photo can hardly be called abuse. It looks like a college student doing a beer bong or a bamboo bong.
    Those crazy college boys…….

  17. Colonel1961 says:

    Bamboo bong? What do you know that I don’t, LD?

  18. artboyusa says:

    I too was going to make a not-very-good joke about waking up many a morning back in my college days in the same sorry state as the guy in the top picture but that picture of Nick Berg’s body froze me…why have I never seen it before? Alas for us all, I know very well what the answer to that question is.

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