The only positive interest I have ever seen them diplay on a consistent basis is an interest in influence & power for a very limited specific group of women.

And membership in that group is not readily granted to just anybody, regardless of virtues or accomplishments.

Ayn Rand, Phyllis Schlafly, Sarah Palin (right off the top of my head), all woman of exceptional, indeed some amazing accomplishments, are anathema. And those are western white girls with all the credentials you could ask for (all of which were won through their own efforts).

It’s all nonsense. And it’s all far too obvious.

There is absolutely no reason why the rest of the world has to grant the “feminists” any credence, consideration or respect. Or to my way of thinking, even public courtesy.

They simply don’t deserve it. What they do deserve is to be unmasked, disgraced and condemned for what they are. Frauds and exploiters.

The “feminist” movement is simply part of the left’s attack on western civilization (Jamie Glazov’s new book does a pretty nice treatment of this) and has made common cause, on that basis, with the jihaddis.

The destruction of western civilization is their goal and priority. And their particular angle is simply to cite the disatisfactions and difficulties of women (real or imaginary) to discredit the west. But the women whose pains are at issue are simply tools.

The condemnation of the west is the key concept of their ideology. And everything else in their thinking and public announcements is going to be choreographed to preserve that goal. All their other thinking will be bent or twisted as needed to resolve conflicts with other condemnations of the west, and give the appearance of a smooth thought out argument.

Those of us who love our civilization may take some pleasure in mocking them on the occasions when feminism and 3rd world victimology come in conflict. And we may even feel a faint hope that some sense will come out of the collision. But for them it is just an exercise in creative writing.

They will paper over the differences and evade the obvious facts that expose their lies.

Believe your eyes.

故曰：知彼知己，百戰不殆；不知彼而知己，一勝一負；不知彼，不知己，每戰必殆。(故曰：知彼知己，百战不殆；不知彼而知己，一胜一负；不知彼，不知己，每战必殆。)
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a thousand battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
– Sun Tsu

Take that ………. leftist do nothing women crybabies of “NOW”, “ERA” and “CODE PINK”
You disgust us equally!!
(EQUALLY)

Oooo…..that would have annoyed me. I’ve had tons of college courses where the instructors were obsessed about women and misogyny, and various “constructions of gender.” Those lectures were more often than not pretentious, unintentionally funny and repulsive at the same time.

“In fact I think that in this country an “individual rights” movement would be far more fruitful.”

I like the sound of that. :) A lot of the repellent things that happen to women in the third world also happen to men. I suppose it’s best not to split people into interest groups based on race or sex.

I think the Western feminist movement today has become leftist theory as opposed than anything practical. There is a lot of laughable theory about gender in women’s studies and so-called “third wave feminism” has a strange obsession with childlessness and lesbians. I think that original feminism had a lot going for it in the early days, under Susan B. Anthony and during the campaign to win women the right to vote….the right to access contraception…and the right to enter top universities that were traditionally reserved for men (Harvard, Princeton, etc). I’m glad that I’m a female living today instead of, say, 1900.

I think feminism has morphed, through the sixties onward, into what you humorously described. Today’s feminism is largely a mantra from the left that lacks substance. It too often mistakes promiscuity for equality. It tends to loathe marriage. It ignores how great we have it in the United States….and how badly women are treated in Islamic countries.

I remember when Obama introduced himself as a feminist at a party during his campaign trail. It clearly didn’t affect his consideration of women. He never once condemns Shariah law, the horrid practice of FGM in Egypt where he spoke, nor did it moderate his blessing of the “wise and gracious” Saudi monarch (in Saudi they lash rape victims as adulterers, sentenced a woman to death for witchcraft because she had a white powder on her robes, and women are fully segregated in public).

I want the real feminists back. Not modern whiners who loathe men and favor government quotas / caps, but the normal women who speak out against Shariah law and it’s treatment of women. Many of those people, I think, are on the conservative side. Sarah Palin may be one good example, but there are certainly others. Those are my two cents. :)

Catie I’m with you. I’m still amazed that more groups like NOW, the different gay organizations, etc. whom the Jihadis would kill, whip or otherwise persecute never say a darned word when it come to issues like this. The funny fellows in CA will scream their little heads off about Prop 8 but are mum on stuff like this.

Now I know what it is like to live in the decline of a civilization and it sucks.

What group of people have they helped? For whom have the feminists ever made life any easier?

In Sudan several females, including a pregnant woman, were stoned to death after being convicted of adultery in courts. In Somalia, 13-year-old victim Asha Ibrahim Dhuhulow was stoned to death after she had been gang raped and her aunt reported it. The mob called her a whore. In Iran the prison guards drug and rape females the night before their execution after “temporary marriages” allowed under Iranisn Shariah law, because it is believed that virgins will go to heaven. In Pakistan doctors warn rape victims not to go to the police because it is likely that the police will sexually assault them.

Thanks leftists. They courageously stand in front of podiums and preach against non-existent discrimination against the headscarf and Muslim dress in the United States, just as Obama did in Cairo (where FGM happens). They cozy up to groups that do not believe in gender equality, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or separation of religion from the state. I still remember when the NYT published a cozy articles about Shariah finance under Bush. Let’s see how long liberals can feign decency while having no principles whatsoever.

I’m convinced that Susan B. Anthony would be appalled by the left today. The liberal perspective tends to be relativistic on matters of culture and other countries – it’s the sort of anti-Western, anthropological distance that allowed Obama’s mother to remain in Indonesia and to disassociate herself from the United States.