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NYT Crows: US Now Outsources Torture

From an outraged New York Times:

U.S. Relies More on Allies in Questioning Terror Suspects


May 24, 2009

WASHINGTON — The United States is now relying heavily on foreign intelligence services to capture, interrogate and detain all but the highest-level terrorist suspects seized outside the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to current and former American government officials.

The change represents a significant loosening of the reins for the United States, which has worked closely with allies to combat violent extremism since the 9/11 attacks but is now pushing that cooperation to new limits.

In the past 10 months, for example, about a half-dozen midlevel financiers and logistics experts working with Al Qaeda have been captured and are being held by intelligence services in four Middle Eastern countries after the United States provided information that led to their arrests by local security services, a former American counterterrorism official said.

In addition, Pakistan’s intelligence and security services captured a Saudi suspect and a Yemeni suspect this year with the help of American intelligence and logistical support, Pakistani officials said. The two are the highest-ranking Qaeda operatives captured since President Obama took office, but they are still being held by Pakistan, which has shared information from their interrogations with the United States, the official said.

The current approach, which began in the last two years of the Bush administration and has gained momentum under Mr. Obama, is driven in part by court rulings and policy changes that have closed the secret prisons run by the Central Intelligence Agency, and all but ended the transfer of prisoners from outside Iraq and Afghanistan to American military prisons.

Human rights advocates say that relying on foreign governments to hold and question terrorist suspects could carry significant risks. It could increase the potential for abuse at the hands of foreign interrogators and could also yield bad intelligence, they say.

The fate of many terrorist suspects whom the Bush administration sent to foreign countries remains uncertain. One suspect, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, who was captured by the C.I.A. in late 2001 and sent to Libya, was recently reported to have died there in Libyan custody.

“As a practical matter you have to rely on partner governments, so the focus should be on pressing and assisting those governments to handle those cases professionally,” said Tom Malinowski, Washington advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.

The United States itself has not detained any high-level terrorist suspects outside Iraq and Afghanistan since Mr. Obama took office, and the question of where to detain the most senior terrorist suspects on a long-term basis is being debated within the new administration. Even deciding where the two Qaeda suspects in Pakistani custody will be kept over the long term is “extremely, extremely sensitive right now,” a senior American military official said, adding, “They’re both bad dudes. The issue is: where do they get parked so they stay parked?” …

American officials say that in the last years of the Bush administration and now on Mr. Obama’s watch, the balance has shifted toward leaving all but the most high-level terrorist suspects in foreign rather than American custody. The United States has repatriated hundreds of detainees held at prisons in Cuba, Iraq and Afghanistan, but the current approach is different because it seeks to keep the prisoners out of American custody altogether…

As even the New York Times is forced to admit, this claim has been floating about for at least a couple of years.

Even the New York Times itself claimed that Iraq was ‘torturing’ captives for the US more than two years ago.

But The Times will recycle any fantasy story to keep their agit-prop churning.

This article was posted by Steve on Saturday, May 23rd, 2009. Comments are currently closed.

4 Responses to “NYT Crows: US Now Outsources Torture”

  1. 12 Gauge Rage says:

    Interrogation techniques are much harsher at these so called outsource locations. Probably due to the fact that some of our foreign allies don’t bind themselves to human rights treaties even if they signed them. So they have no reluctance to capture a terrorist and hang him by his nads with piano wire in order to get him to talk. Torture is an area that many Americans struggle to come to grips with. Some are outright appalled by the very thought of it, no matter how vicious the recipient of it is. While others accept it as long as they don’t know the methods used to get the person to talk. For me the only irony is that our European counterparts can be extremely brutal in their interrogation methods but yet have no death penalty. Perhaps they reason that keeping a hardened criminal in for life, and him not knowing what the next day holds is the ultimate head game of torture.

  2. jdamn says:

    If it’s true it just a return to Clinton-era policies. Clinton had hundreds of terrorists captured, extradited to Egypt, and either killed or tortured and imprisoned. Christopher Deliso writes about this at length and even Michael Scheuer the Douchehat touched upon it on Glenn Beck the other day. Truth be told, I think it’s a smarter way to do it, just so long as we don’t let bin Laden go a third time.

  3. Liberals Demise says:

    We can’t win for losing …. we are dirty if we do and we are bastards if we don’t. Can’t the NYT find anything America does right and and stand behind it in principle?
    On second thought …..I don’t trust the NYT behind me!

  4. proreason says:

    Dennis Prager has a very interesting point about O-blah-blah’s rebuttal to Daddy Cheney’s speech the other day.

    In his self-serving and lying remarks, O-blah-blah said that he rejects water-boarding because there are better methods to get the truth from prisoners.

    Dennis asks…..what are they?

    Americans have a right to know, but if the methods are too confidential, they should be revealed to a handful of Congressional representatives who can give us the good news that such methods do exist, even though we can’t reveal them to the world.

    Why, even the certain knowledge that captured enemies are putty in our hands could save thousands of lives in every war in the future.

    When will Obamy show us the evidence of his genius insight?


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