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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154577</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They want you to believe it&#039;s all inevitable Chuck.

It&#039;s not.

The unreliable polls say that more than 50% of the people in the country like their current health care and are suspicious of a government takeover, and since the bias of every poll is always liberal, there is probably a substantial force against Universal Health Scare.

But if people with brains don&#039;t speak up, then it will pass, and life will never be the same again.

In fact, your life will probably be shorter than it otherwise would have been.

So on this one, the worst thing you can do is to proclaim it is inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They want you to believe it&#8217;s all inevitable Chuck.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>The unreliable polls say that more than 50% of the people in the country like their current health care and are suspicious of a government takeover, and since the bias of every poll is always liberal, there is probably a substantial force against Universal Health Scare.</p>
<p>But if people with brains don&#8217;t speak up, then it will pass, and life will never be the same again.</p>
<p>In fact, your life will probably be shorter than it otherwise would have been.</p>
<p>So on this one, the worst thing you can do is to proclaim it is inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckk</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154576</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone has to buy into it. Only 50% + 1. We are well beyond that figure already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everyone has to buy into it. Only 50% + 1. We are well beyond that figure already.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. I hit SUBMIT twice.</description>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154572</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not inevitable unless everyone with a brain buys into the libwit propaganda.</description>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154569</link>
		<dc:creator>BillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graphical representation of the House&#039;s health care proposal can be found here:

http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/files/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graphical representation of the House&#8217;s health care proposal can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/files/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ourcountrydeservesb.....h-Plan.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: wardmama4</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My youngest son would not be alive today - if not for free (yes I said &lt;b&gt;FREE&lt;/b&gt;) care provided by people who wanted to expand (yes, expand) and Innovate (yes, that is innovation) their field to the point that now - quality of the life saved is the issue - not saving that life. I thank God every day that the ER doctor called Shriners Burns Institute in Galveston TX - and that for decades  (mid-60s for the Burn hospitals of which there are 4 - Boston, Cincinnati, Galveston &amp; Sacramento) - all at NO cost to the patients. 

Think about that - the &lt;b&gt;most expensive&lt;/b&gt; injury/treatment there is in the World - at no cost to the patients - here in America, right now - regardless of reason, color, income, gender - NOW. . .And oh btw, did I mention St. Judes that treats children cancers at NO cost - and also the other 18 Shriners hospitals that treat orthopedic conditions - also at NO cost? Thank you to the Shriners hospitals and of course to their fund raising arm - the Shrines (Kareem and Syrian to be exact, in our case).

What a bunch of vile, evil, lying, hypocritical, disgusting, dangerous inhumane, heartless creatures (because they sure aren&#039;t HUMAN anymore) the 111th Congress has become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My youngest son would not be alive today &#8211; if not for free (yes I said <b>FREE</b>) care provided by people who wanted to expand (yes, expand) and Innovate (yes, that is innovation) their field to the point that now &#8211; quality of the life saved is the issue &#8211; not saving that life. I thank God every day that the ER doctor called Shriners Burns Institute in Galveston TX &#8211; and that for decades  (mid-60s for the Burn hospitals of which there are 4 &#8211; Boston, Cincinnati, Galveston &amp; Sacramento) &#8211; all at NO cost to the patients. </p>
<p>Think about that &#8211; the <b>most expensive</b> injury/treatment there is in the World &#8211; at no cost to the patients &#8211; here in America, right now &#8211; regardless of reason, color, income, gender &#8211; NOW. . .And oh btw, did I mention St. Judes that treats children cancers at NO cost &#8211; and also the other 18 Shriners hospitals that treat orthopedic conditions &#8211; also at NO cost? Thank you to the Shriners hospitals and of course to their fund raising arm &#8211; the Shrines (Kareem and Syrian to be exact, in our case).</p>
<p>What a bunch of vile, evil, lying, hypocritical, disgusting, dangerous inhumane, heartless creatures (because they sure aren&#8217;t HUMAN anymore) the 111th Congress has become.</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s inevitable.  Obama has spent too much money.  He&#039;ll give it a major run, for show, if it doesn&#039;t pass he will point the finger at someone else. 
Good health care is something everyone wants, and it&#039;s only normal for more prosperous people to get the best.  But, any move Obama makes in the direction of capping medical proffesionals pay, is going to cause a major shortage in doctor&#039;s in the future. And those that will be willing are doctor&#039;s who have bad history.
  
I watched Glen for a few minutes. He had a display that Republicans put together of the sytem Obama wants.  It was terrible.  All these hoops and things we&#039;d have to go through. Agencies names all over the board. 

Minorities have their own special offices in the boxes.  The guest said the worst box that said it would be the worst phase was where they determine if you get the procedure.  I had to shut it off.  It was so depressing.  I learned over the years that things the military did were bad.  The worst being not giving anesthesia. Even recently, I told a doctor about a procedure that was one without even a local, and he said it was insane. And I want to cry because so much unnecessary pain patients went through.  We had doctor&#039;s that were officers just doing their time (military pays, then you serve for so long) and they didn&#039;t have to worry about lawsuits, and alot of gineau pigging and disrespect for people.  I hated doctors until my son was born, and got my faith back a little. But, I&#039;ve seen it all, and even if you have money and insurance, I see too many things going wrong. Some hospitals are working like mass assemblie lines.  And so many nurses I know, talk about nurses taking patients pain medicine and sedatives, is really esculating.  And no doubt Acorn will have their hands in Obama&#039;s health care.  I am depressed. Period.

Plus, there may come a doctor shortage, when Obama takes 60-70 percent of what they&#039;ll make. Figure on lot&#039;s of doctor&#039;s that can&#039;t speak English. Que?
Que?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s inevitable.  Obama has spent too much money.  He&#8217;ll give it a major run, for show, if it doesn&#8217;t pass he will point the finger at someone else.<br />
Good health care is something everyone wants, and it&#8217;s only normal for more prosperous people to get the best.  But, any move Obama makes in the direction of capping medical proffesionals pay, is going to cause a major shortage in doctor&#8217;s in the future. And those that will be willing are doctor&#8217;s who have bad history.</p>
<p>I watched Glen for a few minutes. He had a display that Republicans put together of the sytem Obama wants.  It was terrible.  All these hoops and things we&#8217;d have to go through. Agencies names all over the board. </p>
<p>Minorities have their own special offices in the boxes.  The guest said the worst box that said it would be the worst phase was where they determine if you get the procedure.  I had to shut it off.  It was so depressing.  I learned over the years that things the military did were bad.  The worst being not giving anesthesia. Even recently, I told a doctor about a procedure that was one without even a local, and he said it was insane. And I want to cry because so much unnecessary pain patients went through.  We had doctor&#8217;s that were officers just doing their time (military pays, then you serve for so long) and they didn&#8217;t have to worry about lawsuits, and alot of gineau pigging and disrespect for people.  I hated doctors until my son was born, and got my faith back a little. But, I&#8217;ve seen it all, and even if you have money and insurance, I see too many things going wrong. Some hospitals are working like mass assemblie lines.  And so many nurses I know, talk about nurses taking patients pain medicine and sedatives, is really esculating.  And no doubt Acorn will have their hands in Obama&#8217;s health care.  I am depressed. Period.</p>
<p>Plus, there may come a doctor shortage, when Obama takes 60-70 percent of what they&#8217;ll make. Figure on lot&#8217;s of doctor&#8217;s that can&#8217;t speak English. Que?<br />
Que?</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154555</link>
		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been hearing about that book coming out, and seen clips of interviews surrounding it.  Don&#039;t think Obama&#039;s followers will even care. Cocaine goes hand in hand with abnormal sexual acts and prostitution. And his friends, roommates, and criminals he hung with. Obama wrote that his wife was not happy while he was a Senator, because he took a lot trips away from home for several days at a time.  He said she was distant and cold toward him, complained that he didn&#039;t help at home or raising the girls enough.  He defends himself, in that he didn&#039;t expect her to have dinner ready when he got home. But, when those majic beans started growing money, she finally became happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been hearing about that book coming out, and seen clips of interviews surrounding it.  Don&#8217;t think Obama&#8217;s followers will even care. Cocaine goes hand in hand with abnormal sexual acts and prostitution. And his friends, roommates, and criminals he hung with. Obama wrote that his wife was not happy while he was a Senator, because he took a lot trips away from home for several days at a time.  He said she was distant and cold toward him, complained that he didn&#8217;t help at home or raising the girls enough.  He defends himself, in that he didn&#8217;t expect her to have dinner ready when he got home. But, when those majic beans started growing money, she finally became happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuckk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like it or not, government provided health care is inevitable. Why? Because the majority of people think they will be getting something for nothing. And because our ever vigilant watch dog media never questions this assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, government provided health care is inevitable. Why? Because the majority of people think they will be getting something for nothing. And because our ever vigilant watch dog media never questions this assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: BillK</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154552</link>
		<dc:creator>BillK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, as in &lt;i&gt;Soylent Green&lt;/i&gt; the idea is not to get just the terminally ill to end their lives; if you make life miserable enough many people will, reducing costs even further.

The greenies have wanted this all along, as they&#039;ve long said the &quot;sustainable&quot; population of the world is a mere fraction of the number alive today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, as in <i>Soylent Green</i> the idea is not to get just the terminally ill to end their lives; if you make life miserable enough many people will, reducing costs even further.</p>
<p>The greenies have wanted this all along, as they&#8217;ve long said the &#8220;sustainable&#8221; population of the world is a mere fraction of the number alive today.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A woman in England already made headlines for having an abortion then getting sterilized in order to reduce her carbon footprint. I forget when and where I saw the story precisely but I can remember some of the comments left by readers applauding her for caring so darn much for the environment.

And eventually the eco-conscious terminally ill (what constitutes terminally ill will be expanded) will hasten their demise in order to donate their bodies as fuel to biomass plants. Won&#039;t that ease the pain of their death on their loved ones as well as the carbon footprint? It gives a whole new meaning to &quot;going green&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A woman in England already made headlines for having an abortion then getting sterilized in order to reduce her carbon footprint. I forget when and where I saw the story precisely but I can remember some of the comments left by readers applauding her for caring so darn much for the environment.</p>
<p>And eventually the eco-conscious terminally ill (what constitutes terminally ill will be expanded) will hasten their demise in order to donate their bodies as fuel to biomass plants. Won&#8217;t that ease the pain of their death on their loved ones as well as the carbon footprint? It gives a whole new meaning to &#8220;going green&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Today’s secular socialist driven Jews are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our times. So where is our Carpenter of Nazareth who will boldly oppose them with great authority?&quot;

Well put. But if the Messiah performing miracles and conquering death in your midst, centuries of persecution and a holocaust won&#039;t change your mind, what will? I happen to think the Carpenter and His followers do still boldly oppose them.  And I&#039;ve heard of this Hockey Mom from Alaska....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today’s secular socialist driven Jews are the Pharisees and Sadducees of our times. So where is our Carpenter of Nazareth who will boldly oppose them with great authority?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well put. But if the Messiah performing miracles and conquering death in your midst, centuries of persecution and a holocaust won&#8217;t change your mind, what will? I happen to think the Carpenter and His followers do still boldly oppose them.  And I&#8217;ve heard of this Hockey Mom from Alaska&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jobeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>jobeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just think of the savings if all those terminally ill choose to off themselves at the time of diagnosis!&quot;

Bet they find the $$ to provide the drugs/bullets to do the job.

Remember Dr Death, the assisted suicide doc? Maybe we should all buy stock int the suicide machine company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just think of the savings if all those terminally ill choose to off themselves at the time of diagnosis!&#8221;</p>
<p>Bet they find the $$ to provide the drugs/bullets to do the job.</p>
<p>Remember Dr Death, the assisted suicide doc? Maybe we should all buy stock int the suicide machine company.</p>
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		<title>By: neocon mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>neocon mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobeth I think we are mostly in agreement. I agree with you that it is an outrageous lie that people don&#039;t have access to care. And there is provision after provision already to pay for the healthcare of the elderly, the disabled, the poor, children and pregnant women.
To fix healthcare costs I think we could agree:
1. Put the consumer back into the mix--easily done with high-deductible insurance. People will shop around for the best deal
2. Loser pays rule
3. Put up an effective Mexico border barrier and enforce existing immigration law. Also citizenship is not automatically granted to the children of  anyone who enters the country illegally.
4. Health insurance vouchers for people with pre-existing conditions like type-I Diabetes or hemophilia, folks who live with illness who are not disabled and who can  work for a living but may not be able to earn enough on their own to afford insurance. Even if you threw in other treatable but expensive illnesses, you&#039;re talking about a relatively small number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobeth I think we are mostly in agreement. I agree with you that it is an outrageous lie that people don&#8217;t have access to care. And there is provision after provision already to pay for the healthcare of the elderly, the disabled, the poor, children and pregnant women.<br />
To fix healthcare costs I think we could agree:<br />
1. Put the consumer back into the mix&#8211;easily done with high-deductible insurance. People will shop around for the best deal<br />
2. Loser pays rule<br />
3. Put up an effective Mexico border barrier and enforce existing immigration law. Also citizenship is not automatically granted to the children of  anyone who enters the country illegally.<br />
4. Health insurance vouchers for people with pre-existing conditions like type-I Diabetes or hemophilia, folks who live with illness who are not disabled and who can  work for a living but may not be able to earn enough on their own to afford insurance. Even if you threw in other treatable but expensive illnesses, you&#8217;re talking about a relatively small number.</p>
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		<title>By: GetBackJack</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-we-must-ration-health-care#comment-154538</link>
		<dc:creator>GetBackJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get Larry Sinclair&#039;s book How I Knew Who I Blew

http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Larry-Sinclair-Cocaine/dp/0578013878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1247699700&amp;sr=1-1

He&#039;s not only an impostor fraud interloper ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get Larry Sinclair&#8217;s book How I Knew Who I Blew</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Larry-Sinclair-Cocaine/dp/0578013878/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1247699700&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Barack-O.....038;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s not only an impostor fraud interloper &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: U NO HOO</title>
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		<dc:creator>U NO HOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we won&#039;t spend &quot;anything&quot; to save a life then life isn&#039;t worth &quot;anything.&quot;

But, we already know that from the &quot;Let the Botched Abortion Victim Die in the Linen Closet Law.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we won&#8217;t spend &#8220;anything&#8221; to save a life then life isn&#8217;t worth &#8220;anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>But, we already know that from the &#8220;Let the Botched Abortion Victim Die in the Linen Closet Law.&#8221;</p>
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