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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161995</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro, I&#039;ll repeat it here.  &quot;Insanity is doing the same thing, the same way, over and over, expecting different results&quot;.  It&#039;s an old saw in the world of theoretical physics and other disciplines.  It&#039;s been attributed to Einstein but no direct link can be made.  So it&#039;s probably apocryphal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro, I&#8217;ll repeat it here.  &#8220;Insanity is doing the same thing, the same way, over and over, expecting different results&#8221;.  It&#8217;s an old saw in the world of theoretical physics and other disciplines.  It&#8217;s been attributed to Einstein but no direct link can be made.  So it&#8217;s probably apocryphal.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161994</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Con, the point has been made that the next tea party should be within line-of-sight to a major news agency so that when it&#039;s huge and they still don&#039;t report it, the statement will be obvious that they are trying to marginalize it or that that their agenda bloomers are hanging out in the breeze, or both.

If they failed to notice a &quot;tens of thousands&quot; march on DC, then they will certainly fail to notice a &quot;few&quot; milling about ABC news headquarters in Manhattan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Con, the point has been made that the next tea party should be within line-of-sight to a major news agency so that when it&#8217;s huge and they still don&#8217;t report it, the statement will be obvious that they are trying to marginalize it or that that their agenda bloomers are hanging out in the breeze, or both.</p>
<p>If they failed to notice a &#8220;tens of thousands&#8221; march on DC, then they will certainly fail to notice a &#8220;few&#8221; milling about ABC news headquarters in Manhattan.</p>
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		<title>By: Confucius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161993</link>
		<dc:creator>Confucius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the next march can be at the New York Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the next march can be at the New York Times.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161981</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petro, madness, yes, that&#039;s insightful.  The insanity theme, in the literal definition of it, is something I hadn&#039;t thought about for liberals in general, but it&#039;s very descriptive of their approach.

Because they invent their own fantasy worlds inside their heads, and it has nothing to do with reality.

And when they get to implement their fantasies,and the fantasies fail, as they always do, they are completed unaffected.  They answer is never to try something else that might work.  The answer is always to double down on the failed attempt, then triple down.

I&#039;ve always labeled them as childlike, but even children learn from their mistakes.

Insane is a better description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petro, madness, yes, that&#8217;s insightful.  The insanity theme, in the literal definition of it, is something I hadn&#8217;t thought about for liberals in general, but it&#8217;s very descriptive of their approach.</p>
<p>Because they invent their own fantasy worlds inside their heads, and it has nothing to do with reality.</p>
<p>And when they get to implement their fantasies,and the fantasies fail, as they always do, they are completed unaffected.  They answer is never to try something else that might work.  The answer is always to double down on the failed attempt, then triple down.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always labeled them as childlike, but even children learn from their mistakes.</p>
<p>Insane is a better description.</p>
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		<title>By: Petronius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161975</link>
		<dc:creator>Petronius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch, Pro.  Criminals, parasites, and moochers, yes, but I also believe Liberalism is a form of madness.  But even in an insane world, there will always be some sensible and realistic individuals--i.e., conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch, Pro.  Criminals, parasites, and moochers, yes, but I also believe Liberalism is a form of madness.  But even in an insane world, there will always be some sensible and realistic individuals&#8211;i.e., conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161966</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Simply put, Liberals are radicals and utopians [insert]and lazy-asses and criminals who want something for nothing and con artists who need a framework to prey on others, and greedy bastards who see liberalism as less risky than conventional crime [end insert] , whereas&quot; 

Well said Petro, but I did see a wee gap that need some additional words, so I corrected it for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Simply put, Liberals are radicals and utopians [insert]and lazy-asses and criminals who want something for nothing and con artists who need a framework to prey on others, and greedy bastards who see liberalism as less risky than conventional crime [end insert] , whereas&#8221; </p>
<p>Well said Petro, but I did see a wee gap that need some additional words, so I corrected it for you</p>
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		<title>By: Petronius</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161964</link>
		<dc:creator>Petronius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because there will always be sensible people who see the world realistically––and not in ideological terms––there is no danger of the world running out of conservatives any time soon.
  
Liberals are ideologues.  As a result, they tend to see conservatives through an ideological prism, and they may mistakenly attribute Liberal traits to conservatives.  Thus the Liberal author of this New York Times hit-piece makes a fundamental error of treating conservatism as an ideology:  “the conservative movement [must meet] the demands of coming up with a new ideological agenda to meet changing times....”

Liberals cannot stop themselves from falling into this trap, because of their ideological view of human beings:  that people––even conservatives––are plastic, equal, and fungible, like a field of daisies or a herd of cattle or swarm of flies, but of course flies that can be remolded into some Liberal utopian ideal, e.g., communist man.   

But of course this author is being stupid, because ideology and change are playthings for Liberals.  They have nothing to do with us, and are simply not part of the conservative attitude.  (Which is not to ignore the existence of certain conservative philosophies, such as libertarianism, Ayn Rand objectivists, et al.)

Simply put, Liberals are radicals and utopians, whereas conservatives are people who understand and accept the world as it is ... people who see that there are things outside man, things bigger than man, things such as biology or nature or God or moral causes or civilization, and who value the things that work.  Thus conservatives do not view the world (as Liberals do) as a terrible place, as an endless pile of “problems” that must be corrected and overcome with an agenda for change.     

Conservatives understand and accept that there are permanent conditions of human existence that are largely beyond human control, and that tampering with them will do more harm than good.  Or that, if we must tamper with them, our changes should at least be prudent, partial, piecemeal, and carried out in a competent, businesslike manner, so that the social fabric is not rent asunder in the process––whereas Liberals don’t give a damn, and in fact take delight in all manner of destruction.

There will always be sensible, realistic, and moderate people, and they are the people we call “conservatives.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because there will always be sensible people who see the world realistically––and not in ideological terms––there is no danger of the world running out of conservatives any time soon.</p>
<p>Liberals are ideologues.  As a result, they tend to see conservatives through an ideological prism, and they may mistakenly attribute Liberal traits to conservatives.  Thus the Liberal author of this New York Times hit-piece makes a fundamental error of treating conservatism as an ideology:  “the conservative movement [must meet] the demands of coming up with a new ideological agenda to meet changing times&#8230;.”</p>
<p>Liberals cannot stop themselves from falling into this trap, because of their ideological view of human beings:  that people––even conservatives––are plastic, equal, and fungible, like a field of daisies or a herd of cattle or swarm of flies, but of course flies that can be remolded into some Liberal utopian ideal, e.g., communist man.   </p>
<p>But of course this author is being stupid, because ideology and change are playthings for Liberals.  They have nothing to do with us, and are simply not part of the conservative attitude.  (Which is not to ignore the existence of certain conservative philosophies, such as libertarianism, Ayn Rand objectivists, et al.)</p>
<p>Simply put, Liberals are radicals and utopians, whereas conservatives are people who understand and accept the world as it is &#8230; people who see that there are things outside man, things bigger than man, things such as biology or nature or God or moral causes or civilization, and who value the things that work.  Thus conservatives do not view the world (as Liberals do) as a terrible place, as an endless pile of “problems” that must be corrected and overcome with an agenda for change.     </p>
<p>Conservatives understand and accept that there are permanent conditions of human existence that are largely beyond human control, and that tampering with them will do more harm than good.  Or that, if we must tamper with them, our changes should at least be prudent, partial, piecemeal, and carried out in a competent, businesslike manner, so that the social fabric is not rent asunder in the process––whereas Liberals don’t give a damn, and in fact take delight in all manner of destruction.</p>
<p>There will always be sensible, realistic, and moderate people, and they are the people we call “conservatives.”</p>
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		<title>By: VMAN</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161961</link>
		<dc:creator>VMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the big mistake that the Marxists make is that when most kids get out of the government indoctrination and into the workforce their eyes are opened.  They see how much the government is taking and DON&quot;T like it.  They were taught about evil big business stealing their money and manipulating their lives and they realize that it&#039;s the government that does that and the business that gives them a job.  I see more and more young adults who are conservative, if not socially then fiscally. They&#039;re paying attention.  Conservatism is not getting older it&#039;s getting younger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the big mistake that the Marxists make is that when most kids get out of the government indoctrination and into the workforce their eyes are opened.  They see how much the government is taking and DON&#8221;T like it.  They were taught about evil big business stealing their money and manipulating their lives and they realize that it&#8217;s the government that does that and the business that gives them a job.  I see more and more young adults who are conservative, if not socially then fiscally. They&#8217;re paying attention.  Conservatism is not getting older it&#8217;s getting younger.</p>
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		<title>By: Tater Salad</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161960</link>
		<dc:creator>Tater Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will find out just where Conservatism is next election.  Gone will be the liberal whining, the liberal special interest groups and gone will be Democratic/Marxist control of the White House.  Watch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will find out just where Conservatism is next election.  Gone will be the liberal whining, the liberal special interest groups and gone will be Democratic/Marxist control of the White House.  Watch!</p>
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		<title>By: Liberals Demise</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161945</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberals Demise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They may be ready to dance on the Conservative grave marker but I&#039;m ready to piss on theirs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They may be ready to dance on the Conservative grave marker but I&#8217;m ready to piss on theirs!</p>
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		<title>By: canary</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161933</link>
		<dc:creator>canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our paper is headed for the gutter. They refuse to accept the reason they are failing.  They&#039;d better start listening or they will be no more. I suppose a paper can sell their plant to someone else right? as to the right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our paper is headed for the gutter. They refuse to accept the reason they are failing.  They&#8217;d better start listening or they will be no more. I suppose a paper can sell their plant to someone else right? as to the right?</p>
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		<title>By: TwilightZoned</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161921</link>
		<dc:creator>TwilightZoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatism is not dead, nor close to it.  Had most Republican politicians not abandoned the values the party was founded on, Barry may never had been elected.  It seems the conservatives, who normally are not the ones to protest, are fed up.  And we are sending a very clear message to Republican politicians; return to conservative values or we will abandon you for people who will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism is not dead, nor close to it.  Had most Republican politicians not abandoned the values the party was founded on, Barry may never had been elected.  It seems the conservatives, who normally are not the ones to protest, are fed up.  And we are sending a very clear message to Republican politicians; return to conservative values or we will abandon you for people who will.</p>
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		<title>By: proreason</title>
		<link>http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-whats-left-of-conservatism#comment-161896</link>
		<dc:creator>proreason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who would have imagined that a modern-day Lenin (after his puppetmasters were finally able to destroy the world&#039;s economy 2 months prior to the election after valiently trying for an entire year), having won a small majority of 53%, would get this far in overthrowing the 400 year-old traditions of the greatest country of all time.

Don&#039;t belittle audacity.

And if you think the game is over, don&#039;t make the mistake of getting in the way of the coming recoil.

You&#039;ve only begun to see real audacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who would have imagined that a modern-day Lenin (after his puppetmasters were finally able to destroy the world&#8217;s economy 2 months prior to the election after valiently trying for an entire year), having won a small majority of 53%, would get this far in overthrowing the 400 year-old traditions of the greatest country of all time.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t belittle audacity.</p>
<p>And if you think the game is over, don&#8217;t make the mistake of getting in the way of the coming recoil.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve only begun to see real audacity.</p>
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