Comments on: Obama American Dream = New New Deal

By: Consilience

Consilience — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:39:36 +0000

SG—My bad!!! “You’re on the right track, but the Aid to Women with Dependent Children during the Eisenhower administration started the trend.”

I turned off my computer to read last night and went “oops”. My apologies to you and your readers: I was wrong.

By: Retired Geek

Retired Geek — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:57:41 +0000

What is the difference between socialism and communism?

Socialism can only grow directly from Capitalism.

Communism can only be achieved from Socialism or by violent revolution.

Socialisms slogan is: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his DEEDS.”

Communisms slogan is: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his NEEDS.”

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning.

Socialism is the first step in the process of developing the productive forces to achieve abundance and changing the mental and spiritual outlook of the people.

Socialism is the necessary transition stage from capitalism to communism unless there is a violent revolution.

There are two kinds of property to a Socialist:
1) Property used for private enjoyment, i.e. Automobile.
2) Property used to produce the Automobile.

Socialists will allow you personal property i.e. Automobile, but will take away and own the property used to manufacture the Automobile.

There is one kind of property to a Communist:
That which is owned by the state, including the citizens of that state.

The communist principle of distribution according to needs is not immediately possible and practical until the Socialist framework is in place.

The conjecture that Socialism is NOT Marxist thinking is both foolish and plain silly.

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.c.....nces.thtml

By: Professor_Repulso

Professor_Repulso — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 04:42:44 +0000

“Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read ‘Vote Obama, I need the money.’ I laughed.
“Once in the restaurant my server wore an ‘Obama 08′ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference – just imagine the coincidence.
“When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need – the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
“I went outside, gave the homeless guy $5 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
“At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed the money more.
“I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.”

Source unknown

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill

By: Steve

Steve — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:05:01 +0000

“You’re on the right track, but the Aid to Women with Dependent Children during the Eisenhower administration started the trend.”

For the record, Aid to Families with Dependent Children also started in 1935 as part of FDR’s New Deal:

Aid to Families with Dependent Children – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....t_Children

By: Consilience

Consilience — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:20:27 +0000

1sttofight—You’re on the right track, but the Aid to Women with Dependent Children during the Eisenhower administration started the trend. Check out Charles Murray’s book Losing Ground from the early 1980s.

By: 1sttofight

1sttofight — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:20:28 +0000

IMO LBJ’s Great Society was the beginning of the end for America because it destroyed the family, especially the black family. Black women no longer needed a man to support them and their children. The fed gov became the father .

By: Consilience

Consilience — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:58:57 +0000

Indeed, but the essay above describes the dismantlment of America and the beginning of entitlement America.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:50:20 +0000

There were a lot of people who opposed the New Deal.

And it should be noted that even the New York Times thought Mr. Roosevelt had gone around the bend by 1944 — and they endorsed the Republican Wendell Wilke that year for the Presidency.

Imagine.

By: Consilience

Consilience — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:11:26 +0000

A real-time opponent to the New Deal. I’m a student of history, but this truly opened my eyes.

SG, this is the link:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/garrett1.html

By: Consilience

Consilience — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:55:40 +0000

Apparently he was a fierce, pre-Cold War conservative. I read one of his essays today, and it made a lot of sense. We’re going to need to separate the wheat from the chaff after next Tuesday if the messiah wins. I’m not optimistic about the days immediately following the election if he loses. I’ll see if I can find the link to the essay if you’re interested.
Many thanks,

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:41:44 +0000

“Do you know anything about Garet Garrett?”

No, I don’t.

I just visited Wikipedia…

Garet Garrett – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garet_Garrett

But he still doesn’t ring a bell.

By: Consilience

Consilience — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:36:45 +0000

SG, Do you know anything about Garet Garrett? Pat Buchanan referenced him today in his column and I found his essay on the New Deal at a Ron Paul website. What’s the deal with this guy? The essay seems spot on, but is there something to know? You can provide your assessment via email if you like.
Many thanks,

By: platypus

platypus — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:59:47 +0000

I’ve seen this movie before. It’s Back to the Future, but Obambi is not nearly as adorable as Christopher Lloyd.